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Old 10-10-13 | 08:47 AM
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Re: Marvel's Agents of S.H.I.E.L.D -- "The Asset" -- 10/08/13

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Maybe they can get some X-Men to make an appearance
Old 10-10-13 | 10:39 AM
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Wow.
Old 10-10-13 | 12:23 PM
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Re: Marvel's Agents of S.H.I.E.L.D -- "The Asset" -- 10/08/13

Originally Posted by Obi-Wan Jabroni
Yeah, without being told, I would never guess she was half Asian, from any picture that I've seen of her, including the one above (I know you posted 2, but the first one is broken).

EDIT: I saw the first pic by pasting the URL into the browser. It's still broken in the hotlink for some reason. Still wouldn't have guessed it from that pic either.
After the first episode I thought she was part Hispanic. I had no idea she had any Asian heritage. They definitely are loading Skye up with a ton of make-up and carefully shooting her face.
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As a genre show that I'm interested in, I'll give them the season to see how they adjust things.

For me, I think the lack of an underlying meta-story is kinda the current problem (which many "case/monster of the week" shows generally have). Hoping the first few eps are kinda just a set-up and they'll start introducing some sort of overall story to build up on. (unless Coulson's resurrection is the meta-story: that the team he built is actually a roundabout way to keep eyes on him)
Old 10-10-13 | 12:35 PM
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Re: Marvel's Agents of S.H.I.E.L.D -- "The Asset" -- 10/08/13

Originally Posted by mhg83
I'm liking this show a lot. This was the best one so far. Much better than Heroes. I hope they eventually bring in some actual superheroes. Maybe they can get some X-Men to make an appearance
No, they can't touch any X-Men, Spider-Man, or Fantastic Four properties. That's why they are using the word "gifted" so much; they can't use the word "mutant".
Old 10-10-13 | 12:39 PM
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^ Marvel is starting to angle Inhumans as the replacement for Mutants in the comics.
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The drama domination this fall continues with another pickup for a freshman hourlong series. ABC has given a back 9 order to Marvel’s Agents Of S.H.I.E.L.D., bringing its first season to 22 episodes. The series premiered as TV’s highest-rated drama debut in nearly four years and, while it has slipped in Week 2 and Week 3, still ranks as the No. 1 new show of the 2013-14 season among adults 18-49 with solid DVR gains (4.0 Live+Same Day rating/5.7 Live+3 rating). Agents Of S.H.I.E.L.D. joins Fox’s Sleepy Hollow and NBC’s The Blacklist as the third new series this fall to get a pickup (second season and full-season for the other two dramas, respectively). Marvel’s Agents Of S.H.I.E.L.D., which marks Marvel’s first television series, was co-created by The Avengers’ Joss Whedon, along with Jed Whedon & Maurissa Tancharoen, who serve as executive producers along with Jeph Loeb and Jeffrey Bell. ABC Studios is co-producing with Marvel.
Old 10-10-13 | 12:42 PM
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Not surprising for a renewal, though the show is almost guaranteed to switch slots at some point. This seems destined for Friday night at 8 PM.
Old 10-10-13 | 12:51 PM
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Re: Marvel's Agents of S.H.I.E.L.D -- "The Asset" -- 10/08/13

It's not a renewal. Just got the back 9 for this season so that it can last until next May.

Renewal for a second season doesn't happen until late Spring.
Old 10-10-13 | 01:08 PM
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Re: Marvel's Agents of S.H.I.E.L.D -- "The Asset" -- 10/08/13

Originally Posted by greydt
As a genre show that I'm interested in, I'll give them the season to see how they adjust things.

For me, I think the lack of an underlying meta-story is kinda the current problem (which many "case/monster of the week" shows generally have). Hoping the first few eps are kinda just a set-up and they'll start introducing some sort of overall story to build up on. (unless Coulson's resurrection is the meta-story: that the team he built is actually a roundabout way to keep eyes on him)
All Mutant Enemy shows start like this. All of them. I see no reason why this one won't do the same.
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After the first episode I thought she was part Hispanic. I had no idea she had any Asian heritage. They definitely are loading Skye up with a ton of make-up and carefully shooting her face.
I just don't see how they are making her look any "less Asian" on the show than she otherwise looks. I still only see it now because it's been mentioned. So she goes from hottest white girl to second hottest Asian girl on the show.

You know it's true.
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Second hottest girl, period. Yellow fever, baby. Saigon headache. Ooooh yeahhhh....
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Originally Posted by RocShemp
I'm a huge fan of John Barrowman and know full well he's gay. However, the way the show was written, it was too in your face.
That's an odd complaint, seeing as how EVERYONE'S sexuality was "in your face" on that show. It should have been called "Alien Fuckers".
Old 10-10-13 | 01:29 PM
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Re: Marvel's Agents of S.H.I.E.L.D -- "The Asset" -- 10/08/13

I still have yet to see an image of her where she looks Asian. I have seen images without makeup and still not there.
I dont see them piling on makeup to 'hide' her Asian looks.
Old 10-10-13 | 02:52 PM
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Re: Marvel's Agents of S.H.I.E.L.D -- "The Asset" -- 10/08/13

I guess he expects her to look more like Kristin Kreuk?
Old 10-10-13 | 03:21 PM
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Re: Marvel's Agents of S.H.I.E.L.D -- "The Asset" -- 10/08/13

Some good points.

6 Things AGENTS OF SHIELD Should Do To Deserve Its Full Season Pickup

Marvel's TV show is getting a full 22 episodes. That means they have time to implement these changes.

Today it was announced that Agents of SHIELD would be getting a full season order, which means it'll run at least 22 episodes. In a larger Marvel Cinematic Universe sense that means it's going to be on the air through the release of Captain America: The WInter Soldier, which I believe will shake up the structure of SHIELD in major ways and could likely lead to the show's group of agents stealing their plane and acting as rogues. What I'm saying here is that I think the series itself will be shaken up within the course of the first season; while they're at it, here are five other things they can change to earn that full season order.

1. Introduce an evil spy group.

These already exist in the Marvel Cinematic Universe, in the form of AIM, Ten Rings and Hydra. All SHIELD has to do is make one of them the main antagonist for our characters, a recurring thorn in their sides. Rising Tide, the hacker group to which Skye belongs, doesn't count... unless it's one of the Ten Rings. Basically what I want to see is Agent Coulson and friends up against a group that has the exact same resources they have. And also cool jumpsuits.

2. Fix the lighting.

Why does this show look like shit every week? Stop making it look like shit. I know there must be something that can be done to remove the 'cheap syndicated show' aesthetic from an expensive series.

3. Shake up the format.

I can already see the structure of 90% of Agents of SHIELD episodes: we begin on the Bus, where we have some banter that reveals the character stuff that will be explored this episode. A mission comes in, the mission is undertaken and then we return to the Bus for some wrap up/closure to the character issues. And then we have a pre-credits sting. While I like the idea of Agents of SHIELD having a lot of standalone episodes (I'm ready for a break from the incessant serializing on other shows) I don't want it to become a by-the-numbers procedural designed to make old people feel comfortable.

4. Fix Agent Banana Republic.

I have a lot of problems with Agent Grant Ward, not the least of which is that he's a boring character played by a guy who has an ineffable blankness to him. Now that Ming Na's character has overcome her pointless compulsion against violence, he's become totally redundant. Something needs to be done to fix him up, to give him a point, and the first thing the show can do is stop putting him in fucking t-shirts and make him wear a badass SHIELD jumpsuit of some sort. Own the comic book stuff, guys.

5. Kill one of the scientists.


Nothing against either of the actors who play the duo of accented, annoying scientists on the show (three episodes in and I cannot tell you their names, though. That says something), but one of them has to go. Agents of SHIELD is swimming in redundancy - much as Grant and Ming Na play the same role, the two scientists cover the same ground, and that's not even taking into account Skye's presence as a 'master hacker.' We don't need both of them, they add nothing to the show but exposition and yelling. Maybe the redundancy was the plan all along - killing one of these two would lend some stakes to a show that has been remarkably breezy (which isn't inherently a bad thing), and perhaps that's Joss Whedon's master plan.

6. Add some color.

Having an older Asian woman as one of the stars of the show (even if she's been barely featured so far) is pretty great, and it's nice that Chloe Bennet, who plays Skye, is half-Chinese, but why is the rest of Agents of SHIELD's cast so very white? This show's idea of ethnic diversity is having British/Scottish people on the team. Diversity remains a problem in all superhero-related media, and with a team of this size, there's no reason to have such a white cast. Having a Nick Fury cameo doesn't even begin to count.

I still have faith that the writing and the acting will get better as the show goes on. With 22 episodes Agents of SHIELD has a real chance to be an actually good show, rather than a show I'm tolerating. The latest episode, The Asset, gave a nice blueprint for how more comic book-y elements can be integrated into the series, and I'm excited to see what 22 hours can accomplish.
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Re: Marvel's Agents of S.H.I.E.L.D -- "The Asset" -- 10/08/13

ABC’s Agents of S.H.I.E.L.D. is again dipping into Marvel’s deep bag of tricks, tapping Titus Welliver to reprise his role as Agent Blake, the character he played in the Marvel One-Shots Blu-ray featurette Item 47.

As first reported by Marvel.com, Welliver will guest-star in the freshman drama’s sixth episode, “FZZT,” which finds Coulson and his team hunting down an elusive killer after “floating bodies” start turning up.

Item 47 is a direct-to-video short film included in The Avengers‘ Blu-ray set and following the retrieval of a discarded Chitauri gun being used by a young couple (Jesse Bradford and Lizzy Caplan) to rob banks.

To date, S.H.I.E.L.D. has crossed over Clark Gregg’s Agent Coulson as a series regular, had Cobie Smulders play Maria Hill in the premiere and scored a surprise cameo by Samuel L. Jackson (as badass boss man Nick Fury) in the Oct. 1 episode.

Welliver’s previous TV credits include The Good Wife, Lost, Sons of Anarchy and White Collar.

Marvel’s Agents of S.H.I.E.L.D. on Thursday morning received a full-season order of 22 episodes.
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Originally Posted by Navinabob
No, they can't touch any X-Men, Spider-Man, or Fantastic Four properties. That's why they are using the word "gifted" so much; they can't use the word "mutant".
Thanks for the clarification. I just figured if they're from the Marvel universe they can use all the characters from their comics.
Old 10-10-13 | 04:14 PM
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That's an odd complaint, seeing as how EVERYONE'S sexuality was "in your face" on that show. It should have been called "Alien Fuckers".
In all fairness, I didn't like that about any of them. And you're right in your description of the show when it came to their sexual antics.
Old 10-10-13 | 04:41 PM
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Re: Marvel's Agents of S.H.I.E.L.D -- "The Asset" -- 10/08/13

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I still have yet to see an image of her where she looks Asian. I have seen images without makeup and still not there.
I dont see them piling on makeup to 'hide' her Asian looks.
Half asian ladies look like that. Her father was Chinese, The more far east you get, the more asian you look.
Old 10-10-13 | 06:04 PM
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Originally Posted by mhg83
Thanks for the clarification. I just figured if they're from the Marvel universe they can use all the characters from their comics.
Back in the late 90s Marvel was facing bankruptcy and sold off several of the movie rights to their characters.

Spider-Man belongs with Sony, and the Fantastic Four and X-Men belong with Fox.

Marvel/Disney has nothing to do with movies in those three series. Unless they somehow strike a deal with Sony and/or Fox, those characters will never appear in any Avengers Cinematic Universe movie.

Those are just the movie rights though. I don't think anyone outside of Marvel/Disney, Sony, and Fox knows how much it extends to TV. Animation obviously isn't a part of the contract since Marvel/Disney is producing a Spider-Man animated TV series. Nobody really knows about live-action TV though.
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Re: Marvel's Agents of S.H.I.E.L.D -- "The Asset" -- 10/08/13

ABC’s Agents of S.H.I.E.L.D. is again dipping into Marvel’s deep bag of tricks, tapping Titus Welliver to reprise his role as Agent Blake, the character he played in the Marvel One-Shots Blu-ray featurette Item 47.
Wonder if they'll ever get Jesse Bradford and Lizzy Caplan to appear on the show. I assumed they would be a part of the series after their roles in the one-shot, but now they're both committed to other projects.
Old 10-10-13 | 06:09 PM
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Originally Posted by taffer
I don't think anyone outside of Marvel/Disney, Sony, and Fox knows how much it extends to TV. Animation obviously isn't a part of the contract since Marvel/Disney is producing a Spider-Man animated TV series.
I believe Sony lost the animation series rights due to some licensing and merchandising squabbles.
Old 10-10-13 | 06:42 PM
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Re: Marvel's Agents of S.H.I.E.L.D -- "The Asset" -- 10/08/13

Originally Posted by slop101
Some good points.
So all the same complaints(Ward sucks, show looks like shit, can't remember characters names, etc) people have levied here aren't specific to this forum? I thought we were all idiots for being so critical?

Oh well, the show is slowly improving. I just hope it improves quicker.
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Marvel's trademark issues give me a headache.


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