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Dexter -- Series Finale -- "Remember the Monsters?" -- 9/22/13

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Old 09-23-13 | 07:25 PM
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Re: Dexter -- Series Finale -- "Remember the Monsters?" -- 9/22/13

I didn't hate the finale as much as some here, but I understand the outrage. Deb's death was really emotional, and I actually liked how Dexter ended up dispatching Saxon, even if I saw it coming. It was the lumberjack thing that really left a bad taste in my mouth. Even though I didn't agree with Dexter's motivation for killing himself, I could understand it based on Dexter's warped logic. But having it be a ruse took all nobility out of what should have been his sacrifice. Plus, it would have been more fitting for his final resting place to be in the ocean with Deb. And then that final look at the camera made me think he had devolved once again. I almost feel like the writers were keeping things open just enough should they decide to pull a 24 and bring the show back.
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Originally Posted by Jeremy517
It was a trap for Saxon. Deb wasn't in the room listed on the sheet. They moved everyone to a different area and used the empty room that the sheet said she was in as bait. There are a ton of things to complain about for this episode/season, but that wasn't one of them.
Yea, it was obvious that it was a trap.

However, I found it funny how mickey-mouse the arrest of Saxon went. First cop ignoring the gun within reach of Saxon. They quickly cuff him and take him away - not patting him down or having him lay on the ground - not taking the necessary precautions. Purse-snatchers are treated with more caution than a serial killer.
Old 09-23-13 | 08:54 PM
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8 years of watching this show and that Finale drove me crazy.

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At first I thought Dexter was going to kill himself after dumping the body of Deb, because of what he told Harrison on the phone. The scene with Hannah & Harrison, I thought after reading the newspaper Dexter would appear in front of Hannah & Harrison. The reasoning that Dexter is becoming more human and not wanting to lose anyone makes sense, but after so many seasons of the show, you'd think Dexter wouldn't just dump off his kid just randomly


It started off as a promising season but then jumped into the deep end like (almost) every season after 4. Now I'm starting to wonder if this season is as bad as my least favorite season, 3.
Old 09-23-13 | 08:58 PM
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Yeah, I haven't watched Season three since it aired because I HATED that season going through it. But I have to think that, after suffering through 5,6, and 8 I might actually like it in comparison.
Old 09-23-13 | 09:12 PM
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Re: Dexter -- Series Finale -- "Remember the Monsters?" -- 9/22/13

Originally Posted by thelwig14
Dexter was always a lonely lumberjack and imagined his entire life in Miami.
That's fucking awesome. I'm going with that being the real ending. *lalalala I'm not listening*

So... countdown for the Lumberjack spin-off series?
Old 09-23-13 | 09:35 PM
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Still haven't watched the last two episodes yet and really don't have the desire to do so. Read the spoilers for the finale because I don't really care at this point. All I can say is Scott Buck is a fucking idiot and destroyed a once great show.
Old 09-23-13 | 10:20 PM
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I keep coming across articles and twitter links, etc. just bashing the finale. It's getting more hate than the Sopranos ending.

Fuck the plot line, the cast and crew of Dexter should actually escape to Argentina for protection.
Old 09-23-13 | 10:24 PM
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Re: Dexter -- Series Finale -- "Remember the Monsters?" -- 9/22/13

Originally Posted by Mike86
Still haven't watched the last two episodes yet and really don't have the desire to do so. Read the spoilers for the finale because I don't really care at this point. All I can say is Scott Buck is a fucking idiot and destroyed a once great show.
C'mon man, you're 99.5% done. You might as well get it over with.
Old 09-23-13 | 10:42 PM
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Re: Dexter -- Series Finale -- "Remember the Monsters?" -- 9/22/13

Well, I enjoyed most of Dexter's seasons even the ones most others didn't like. I can forgive a lot including all the huge plot holes - Hannah injecting Elway on the bus and nobody including Harrison noticing, Dexter walking out of the hospital with a wrapped body and no one noticing, and even Dexter surviving a hurricane in the middle of the ocean in spite of his boat being utterly destroyed (the boat that he sold??). But that ending just pissed me off. The series deserved much better. It so easily could have been much better.

I read the EW interview where Scott Buck and Sarah Colleton defended their ending and why they did it. And I get what they were going after. The problem is that they decided what kind of theme they wanted first - a "Flowers for Algernon" kind of rise and fall for the hero. They were so fixated on the theme that they forced the storyline to follow it even when it didn't make sense. Everyone but them noticed that it felt forced. The thing that pissed me off was Dexter didn't even NEED to leave Hannah and Harrison. It wasn't like he was being followed and he would've endangered them by going with them. So the whole thing about protecting them didn't ring true. And ultimately, in the end EVERYONE was destroyed. Deb was on the verge of finding redemption and regaining happiness and then gets killed. Batista, Joey, Hannah, Harrison - none of them end up happy.

And I wasn't expecting a happy ending for everyone necessarily. I was okay with Deb dying. I was okay with Dexter having to end her life. But Deb sacrificed a lot for her brother. For it all to be for nothing??? Ugh. Just ugh.

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Old 09-24-13 | 12:53 AM
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Phillips' ending is much better, but it still wouldn't have saved this show.
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I thought it was a complete cop out he did not die, obviously showtime, and maybe even hall did not want to fully kill this cash cow "just in case"

awful is not a strong enough word.

I too thought, how can this guy, who was involved in one of the all time great season enders in six feet under, allow this to happen to what once was a very good show?

just an epic fail on all levels.

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Old 09-24-13 | 07:40 AM
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Re: Dexter -- Series Finale -- "Remember the Monsters?" -- 9/22/13

Originally Posted by clckworang
I almost feel like the writers were keeping things open just enough should they decide to pull a 24 and bring the show back.
I kind of have the feeling they MAY do something to appease the enraged fans. Maybe a Dexter movie eventually down the road to tie up any loose ends and maybe make a few folks happy?
Old 09-24-13 | 07:51 AM
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Originally Posted by mickey65
I kind of have the feeling they MAY do something to appease the enraged fans. Maybe a Dexter movie eventually down the road to tie up any loose ends and maybe make a few folks happy?
But a TV show shouldn't have to do a movie or some continuation just to appease fans for the writer's mistakes and to tie up loose ends.

If something like 24 actually got a movie (and awesome, we're getting the new mini series) it should be just for the sheer fact that people want it back. Not to rectify an ill taste in viewer's mouths.
Old 09-24-13 | 08:11 AM
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Re: Dexter -- Series Finale -- "Remember the Monsters?" -- 9/22/13

The movie should be a comedy. Dexter is a lumberjack and starts telling his friends he had this weird dream... Doakes is the token funny black guy of course, he and Dexter are BFF. Mazuka is the owner of the local bar, you know the rest.
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Old 09-24-13 | 10:31 AM
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Pure shit. I feel like Alan Grant escaping from Jurassic Park. "After careful consideration, I have decided NOT to endorse..."

It's finally over. It's so bad that I was already thinking of the idea of a do-over season halfway through this one.
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Originally Posted by DJariya
C'mon man, you're 99.5% done. You might as well get it over with.
I will, but this season really soured me on the series. As you know I was a big supporter of the show for a long time but this season just turned the show to complete shit and just was a major disappointment.
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But, really Dex? Dropping Deb's body into the ocean like she is a piece of trash like all the people he killed. That was fucking bullshit. They should have at least given her the decency of a proper funeral. So Deb ends up fish food.
I'm with you 100%

I could see this ending working if he put the boat on full throtle on a direct course into the storm, and jumped into the water holding his sister.

They both died together, and the boat was found wrecked at the end of the show.

But come on - Deb deserved to be burried by their father, she had friends, and people who loved / cared for her.... oh and Quinn and no one at Miami Metro are going to come back and ask "where did she go?"
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Re: Dexter -- Series Finale -- "Remember the Monsters?" -- 9/22/13

Originally Posted by Jeremy517
It was a trap for Saxon. Deb wasn't in the room listed on the sheet. They moved everyone to a different area and used the empty room that the sheet said she was in as bait. There are a ton of things to complain about for this episode/season, but that wasn't one of them.
I can understand the confusion though.

Did they move her because it was a trap, or did they move her because she was going to ICU? Or did she get complications once they moved her?

If I remember right, after that scene happens (Batista & Unis arresting Saxon), Dexter immediately goes to look for Deb (after putting the Fork down on the seat, then opening the door to a completely empty room). At that point he runs into Quinn crying and the Doctor informs Dexter of Deb's complications.
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Re: Dexter -- Series Finale -- "Remember the Monsters?" -- 9/22/13

It was definitely a trap. You can look at the geography of the scene. Batista was hiding in a room right next to where Saxon was looking at the list. If you look carefully as Saxon is walking towards Dexter, you can see Batista's arm in the doorway. They actually did a good job editing that scene.
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For the BHB not coming to an end, I do agree with what the show runners and writers have said. They built up for years that Dexter's life could turn upside down at any time and teased people finding out. At the end of it all, you couldn't just finally have someone find out in one 60 minute episode without doing anything about it in past episodes. Once Deb decided not to rat out Dexter, I think that was the last chance for Dexter to get caught. I mean, he hasn't even really killed anyone to bring attention to himself. Deb could have told Quinn on the ride to the hospital, but she kind of told him anyways when she was drunk. You do get that shimmer when they watched Dexter kill Saxton, but having seen the past few episodes of how it was going, anyone who thought Dexter would be found out has to be fooling themselves. Now, had they gone a different route this season, they could have had Batista on Dexter after his former wife died and Deb going crazy as Batista knows Deb and her never got along. But with what was given, there was never going to be any closure.

As for his step children, they got shafted a LONG time ago. The writers were never kind nor helped them at all, so why would they care about them now?
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For the BHB not coming to an end, I do agree with what the show runners and writers have said. They built up for years that Dexter's life could turn upside down at any time and teased people finding out. At the end of it all, you couldn't just finally have someone find out in one 60 minute episode without doing anything about it in past episodes. Once Deb decided not to rat out Dexter, I think that was the last chance for Dexter to get caught. I mean, he hasn't even really killed anyone to bring attention to himself. Deb could have told Quinn on the ride to the hospital, but she kind of told him anyways when she was drunk. You do get that shimmer when they watched Dexter kill Saxton, but having seen the past few episodes of how it was going, anyone who thought Dexter would be found out has to be fooling themselves. Now, had they gone a different route this season, they could have had Batista on Dexter after his former wife died and Deb going crazy as Batista knows Deb and her never got along. But with what was given, there was never going to be any closure.
The Bay Harbor Butcher storyline was so built in and such an easy way out it's pathetic they couldn't have come up with a way to resolve it. No one says it had to be done in one single episode but that easily could have been built in to being the final season. They fricken started it last season with LaGuerta going back to the case and having suspicions about Dexter and she coincidentally winds up dead. The writers really try to justify they had no place to go with that? Why would Batista who was close with LaGuerta and came out of retirement after Deb stepped down not think something was strange? She had the evidence that planted Dexter and Deb at the scene of Travis' death but Batista decided not to do anything with it. Also, why would Matthews who LaGuerta confided in about her thoughts on Dexter let everything slip by after she died suddenly? Granted yes both of them are friends of Dexter and they may have let that cloud their judgement of him but still. It really doesn't make a lot of sense.

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Old 09-24-13 | 02:52 PM
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Originally Posted by Mike86
The Bay Harbor Butcher storyline was so built in and such an easy way out it's pathetic they couldn't have come up with a way to resolve it. No one says it had to be done in one single episode but that easily could have been built in to being the final season. They fricken started it last season with LaGuerta going back to the case and having suspicions about Dexter and she coincidentally winds up dead. The writers really try to justify they had no place to go with that? Why would Batista who was close with LaGuerta and came out of retirement after Deb stepped down not think something was strange? She had the evidence that planted Dexter and Deb at the scene of Travis' death but Batista decided not to do anything with it. Also, why would Matthews who LaGuerta confided in about her thoughts on Dexter let everything slip by after she died suddenly? Granted yes both of them are friends of Dexter and they may have let that cloud their judgement of him but still. It really doesn't make a lot of sense.
I would love for people to ask the writer's questions like this. They would be dumbfounded.
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Re: Dexter -- Series Finale -- "Remember the Monsters?" -- 9/22/13

Well, it's been a few days but I'm still pissed. That ending sucked.

I like the idea of the Philips ending, but would have loved to see Dexter caught for killing Deb (for his role as Dr. Kevorkian)---the one person that he always cared about.

Jailtime for killing her and not being caught for all the others might have been a nice twist. How he would explain where Harrison was....I got nothin'.


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