Dexter -- "Monkey in a Box" -- 9/15/13
 

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Synopsis:

Dexter is torn between fleeing the country with Hannah and Harrison, and taking Saxon out once and for all.


Episode 11/12


One more week to go folks! Hang in there. :D

Re: Dexter -- "Monkey in a Box" -- 9/15/13
 

Dexter's response to seeing this episode's script, no doubt.

Re: Dexter -- "Monkey in a Box" -- 9/15/13
 

Lol, speaking of which he is an executive producer. He could have stepped in and said these storylines were bad, but he didn't so he's to blame also. Either that or he just didn't care and wanted to get it over with. Atleast based on spoilers something exciting happens tonight.

Re: Dexter -- "Monkey in a Box" -- 9/15/13
 

It's especially sad considering he was on Six Feet Under and had said in the past that he was not interested in a show going beyond 5 seasons.

Re: Dexter -- "Monkey in a Box" -- 9/15/13
 

Well, the show really hasn't gone past 5 years. They have just been going through the motions more or less. So maybe he meant that quality only needs to exist for the first five. I'm waiting for the cast to break out in song and dance in the finale to reveal that the final episode is a musical.

Re: Dexter -- "Monkey in a Box" -- 9/15/13
 

It certainly has gone past 5 seasons though, which is what I mentioned. That was his mindset during the end of Six Feet Under, but clearly things must have changed since then.

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I'm sure it was money talking that made Dexter continue on. Showtime clearly didn't want to give it up (if it had been their way this wouldn't be the last season) and I'm sure they probably gave him so much to stay that he would have been a fool to turn it down. It hurt the show long term though no doubt by having it go longer.

Re: Dexter -- "Monkey in a Box" -- 9/15/13
 

Yeah, that and also being the exec. producer position probably swayed him.

Re: Dexter -- "Monkey in a Box" -- 9/15/13
 

Man... this was probably one of the best episodes of TV I've ever seen. This is how a final season should be wrapping things up! Oh shit... I'm not in the Breaking Bad thread?

Re: Dexter -- "Monkey in a Box" -- 9/15/13
 

Whoops, yeah you took a wrong turn.

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:lol:

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This was stupid. I need to risk all these plans and the rest of my life to kill saxon. Oh wait, I don't like murder anymore, I'll hand you off to the police. They'll never have any questions about your mom and deb & I...

"oh I'd love to stay and help you subdue the dangerous psycho killer deb or at least wait for backup to arrive, but I gotta run...laterz".

Re: Dexter -- "Monkey in a Box" -- 9/15/13
 

LOL, 11 posts total in this thread vs 100+ in BB.

Re: Dexter -- "Monkey in a Box" -- 9/15/13
 

I can't wait for the final episode!*

*because it means this awful season will be over.

I'm a big Dexter apologist. The show peaked with season 4/Trinity but up until last year even it was an entertaining potboiler without dipping into guilty pleasure territory. And it was genuinely funny. I'd take a guilty pleasure at this point.

This guy playing Saxon is literally the most bland and unremarkable actor I've ever seen cast in a major part. In ANYTHING.

Re: Dexter -- "Monkey in a Box" -- 9/15/13
 

Is it customary to wear Hawaiian shirts and casual wear to a memorial service? Holy shit how far does this laziness stretch.

Re: Dexter -- "Monkey in a Box" -- 9/15/13
 

Worst episode of the season. How did Marshal Lem not recognize a major fugitive?! Oh let me untie you Mr Killer all over the news.

Lazy writing to get Saxon free again.

UGH

Re: Dexter -- "Monkey in a Box" -- 9/15/13
 

Yeah, Lem should have known about the situation. That was just plain idiotic. What else. Off the top of my head...

• Oh yeah the new "lieutenant" is of course mysteriously absent again.
• It's okay for Dexter to work the case involving Quinn and Liddy and mess with the evidence in season 5 but here Angel wants Dexter to step back?
• Deb doesn't notice that her house was raided by the authorities? Even if it were put back in normal condition, she's supposed to be a good detective so what the fuck was that? And how'd they get the warrant so fast? They found no prints or evidence of Hannah whatsoever? How?
• I'm surprised they didn't show a 45 second clip of Miguel's wife on the "previously on" segment, so kudos for showing some restraint.
• Angel isn't pissed that Quinn left his sister for Deb? He's usually on Quinn's ass for something like that.
• Which clip did Dexter release of Saxon? You'd think he would release ALL of them to give closure to the victims families and the police. Especially to fucking Zach, his friend. And if Zach's was the one he released, you'd think he'd mention it since he was-oh fuck this shit.

I'm not even going to touch the stupidity of Dexter backing off from killing Saxon, that's on a whole other level. I still have Breaking Bad in my mind and I'm going to go watch The Newsroom finale.

Re: Dexter -- "Monkey in a Box" -- 9/15/13
 

What a random 3rd season cameo.

Re: Dexter -- "Monkey in a Box" -- 9/15/13
 

Watched this after tonight's BB. The stuff with Saxon is turning into comedic relief at this point. I wonder if we'll see Harry again? Could have been his last scene tonight.

Re: Dexter -- "Monkey in a Box" -- 9/15/13
 

Also does anybody else detect a European accent with Saxon? Seems a bit off but I'm not sure. Not like an English accent that he's hiding due to the character, but due to bad acting and masking his actual accent.

Just looked him up, he's from Iceland. There we go.

Re: Dexter -- "Monkey in a Box" -- 9/15/13
 

:lol: The Marshall was a fucking idiot. Did he not see any of the news reports that aired throughout Miami showing Saxon's picture that he's wanted? Just a lazy excuse to get him free again.

:brickwl2: As mentioned in a few previous weeks, it's so damn frustrating that Hannah can walk around Miami and even go to an airport with her long blonde locks flowing without any kind of disguise, even though she's a wanted fugitive and murderer.

And yes, that was so random to see Miguel Prado's widow appear in this episode as Dexter's real estate agent.


I totally get that most of you are frustrated being that this is the final season and the show isn't heading towards a more realistic end game considering the events of last season and how things started out.

I have a strong feeling that the series finale will either end with Dexter or Hannah getting killed. That seems to be the end game they are heading to. I can't see Dexter being led off in cuffs at this point. The whole deal with the Bay Harbor Butcher and all the murders that Dexter committed over the years seems irrelevant at this point.

Re: Dexter -- "Monkey in a Box" -- 9/15/13
 

Sad that Holly on Breaking Bad is a far better actor than Harrison

Re: Dexter -- "Monkey in a Box" -- 9/15/13
 

Just when I thought Dexter had hit a new low, well I watch this episode. Wow. And they set up the end so well last year. I mean holy shit, the Captain would have realized Dexter is the BHB the minute La Guerta died, but instead "Harry would be proud of both of you". I have no idea what the showrunners were going for here.

Re: Dexter -- "Monkey in a Box" -- 9/15/13
 

I've been hating this season, but this episode made things a bit interesting considering I'm really curious how it all turns out.

Re: Dexter -- "Monkey in a Box" -- 9/15/13
 

Which I find ridiculously unbelievable. How does pretty much the main issue of the show not even be addressed. Dexter even said on this episode that he never would've thought this was the reason he was fleeing Miami...meaning FOR someone else. It's beyond me how they didn't have a final season with Angel uncovering everything and Dexter's world crumbling around him, on the run... etc...

Re: Dexter -- "Monkey in a Box" -- 9/15/13
 

Deb was having dinner at Dexter's place while her house was getting tossed - so she had no idea that was happening.

Lem was too busy I guess tailing the Morgans to have seen the news report about Saxon.

Dexter sent the TV station the clip of Zach getting killed.

Re: Dexter -- "Monkey in a Box" -- 9/15/13
 

Of all the things this season has done, this is by far the thing that pisses me off the most.

I don't want to see Dexter get busted for aiding and abetting a fugitive. That's lame as hell.

I want to see Dexter get outed as the real Bay Harbor Butcher. I want to see Doakes get exonerated. I want to see Angel's and Quinn's and Masuka's reactions to Dexter being a serial killer. I even want to see Astor's and Cody's reactions to the news that their step-father is a serial killer.

This fugitive Hannah is bullshit compared to that.

Re: Dexter -- "Monkey in a Box" -- 9/15/13
 

This is such a shit show, It's probably going to turn out that everyone but Laguerta and Doakes knew all along that Dexter was the killer. Only they looked the other way cause, hey, he's a good blood splatter worker.

The one line that Cody and Ester found out, were bummed, but cool with it cause they get a free car was fucking comical in how the show writers are god awful at there job.

It would be like Walter White getting tossed in jail not for all the things he did, but because he tore the labels off mattresses at a sit & sleep in Breaking Bad's final season.

Re: Dexter -- "Monkey in a Box" -- 9/15/13
 

Exactly.

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I actually thought this when they were in that reunion after the funeral. I was expecting Angel to say "and btw we knew all the time..."

Re: Dexter -- "Monkey in a Box" -- 9/15/13
 

I've been hoping the series will end with us back in Season 4 - Dexter doesn't catch Trinity but actually the rest of the series has been a fever dream in the moments as Dexter bleeds out in a tub instead of Rita... that'd be fucking stupid but it'd be better than what they have in store for us.

It is like this final season was crafted by people WHO HAD NEVER SEEN THE SHOW BEFORE. Dexter has been acting so fucking stupid all season that I can't even handle it. Storylines that go nowhere, horrible contrivances of plot to get from point A to point B and Dexter losing the appetite to kill at the worst possible moment, have made this season idiotic. I get a headache watching this from so much eye rolling.

Someone posted supposed finale spoilers on Reddit last week - they line up with the events of tonight...and if those spoilers are true the series finale is going to be one of the WORST finales you have ever seen. I was stunned at the sheer stupidity of the synopsis.

I loved this show for the first 4 seasons, even if it wasn't perfect, it still felt like quality television. Now I just feel insulted for sticking with it so long.

Re: Dexter -- "Monkey in a Box" -- 9/15/13
 

I have a feeling Deb will say she is the BHB on her death bed to save Dexter.

Re: Dexter -- "Monkey in a Box" -- 9/15/13
 

Goddamn this shit is fucking terrible.

What writer in the world would think this was an appropriate end to the final season of Dexter?

Re: Dexter -- "Monkey in a Box" -- 9/15/13
 

The scene with Saxon in the Hospital took place the next day. So she should have noticed something.

Re: Dexter -- "Monkey in a Box" -- 9/15/13
 

When I read the transcript for the finale, I thought it was a joke. Clearly it was the real thing as that is where this is all heading.

Just an awful episode to an awful season and after further reflection I would tell a new viewer just to quit after Trinity and Season 4.

Re: Dexter -- "Monkey in a Box" -- 9/15/13
 

So you suspect that Deb is hiding a wanted fugitive in her home. You confront her about what the nurse said, giving her a heads up that you're on to her. You have your PI friend enter the premises and she reacts like a guilty person. While he leaves to present his findings to a federal marshal, she is able to have her brother come over, decide what to do, and she is able to drop her off at the front door of the airport hotel without anyone following her. Only after all of that does the marshal decide to follow her. Oh yeah, you could have had your PI friend put some surveillance on the home instead of giving her the heads up that you were on to her.

Great fucking writing.

Re: Dexter -- "Monkey in a Box" -- 9/15/13
 

I suspect the new showrunner has misunderstood exactly what the viewers connection is with the show. I think most people see Dexter as a kind of wish fulfillment fantasy of what it would be like to be a vigilante and take justice into your own hands but based on the comments of most people here, we still expect law enforcement (no matter how ineptly they have been portrayed) to prevail and the bad guy to go to jail.

In past seasons we have always been able to walk that fine line rooting Dexter on and justifying his behavior because there was the chance that at some point he would get caught.

This showrunner seems to have given the writers direction to make sure Dexter ends up redeemed and able to ride off into the sunset with a happy ending. These last few episodes we see he has somehow grown a conscience, no longer needs 'Harry', and no longer even needs to kill people. They seem to be setting him up to be 'just like one of us' now having grown and redeemed himself.

Not surprisingly this is completely misfiring because everyone wants the darker ending of Dexter remaining the way he was and ending in some gory blood filled rampage.

Re: Dexter -- "Monkey in a Box" -- 9/15/13
 

Exactly. And they had it perfectly set up that for that. Instead they give us this completely vapid nonsense.

Re: Dexter -- "Monkey in a Box" -- 9/15/13
 

I hope that everything I read is wrong but deep down, I know it's probably right. One of the biggest ass pulls in the history of television if it's true.

Re: Dexter -- "Monkey in a Box" -- 9/15/13
 

Makes it worse when they say this is what they've been planning for years.