I was thinking the same thing. It was an odd scene. I remember someone posting about how Walt and Jessie might have been working together the whole time to screw over Hank, and given how quickly this escalated, I don't think that it is the case, but it would play into that scene.

Since Jessie seemingly told Hank everything, he would know that Walt used a group of guys for simultaneous hits in prison, so I think that would be his assumption.

As for the Nazis, I think that they could end up with the Walt's money. If Hank and Gomez die, they could easily turn on Walt and Jessie and make Walt tell them where the money is, and keep Walt & Jessie to keep cooking. The last couple of shows could be getting back to where the series started, Walt having cancer, cooking meth to stay alive (they did just go back to the scene of their first cook). Eventually with the fast forward we know that Walt gets out alive, but until then, it seems like they could be building to a return to the beginning type of ending.

I'm upset because I wanted RV packaging.

I can't believe people here think Hank is still alive. Hank is dead, folks.

We can only hope! I hate pigs, and I've always hated his character!

Remember how everybody thought Ted was 100% dead at the end of season 4 due to all that bullshit about oranges and Saul's reaction? Yeah, nothing is certain.

Yeah, maybe. I'm going by the phone call. It's possible that was a fake-out. But I don't think so. It's not the show's style to telegraph something like that and have it not happen. After the fact, sure.

I was re-watching Season 3 recently, where Hank turns down the El Paso job. Skylar says to Marie, "Well, he's certainly a lot safer up here, isn't he?"

Doh.

Only problem I have with that scenario is Walt's neighbor in the flash forward looked like she had seen a ghost. It's obvious that the Walt story becomes major news. Skylar shouldn't get off scott free either.

I custom-built my Blu-ray shelves to be just a little taller and a littler deeper than a Blu-ray, so yeah, it is a problem for me.

I can't remember if it was in a podcast or not, but I believe the writers stated that it was done in a way where Ted could have been dead at that point if they didn't have any other ideas for him.

I believe Gomez will be dead immediately at the start of the next episode, but Hank will be very injured...giving him time to say a few things, maybe to Walt? But ultimately will be shot in the head (similar to Declan a few episodes back) -

I wonder if Walt's confession DVD resurfaces, especially if Hank/Gomez die.

That was me who stated they might be working on this together, although after the last episode I highly doubt it now. However, if it does end up that way, I want to make everyone aware that I was the ONLY one who threw that out there.

Absolutely. Also, the house gets seized or condemned by some legal authority. There was a big fence around the property with "keep out" signs. I just assumed it was the Feds who seized it as an asset gained through illegal narcotics trade.

I was thinking about this episode all day, and then something struck me as more than what I originally thought of as simply a comedic throwaway line.

"How angry are we talking? Hulk Angry?"

Why would that even matter to the Nazi squad who easily killed 10 prisoners? They seemed awfully interested in Walt talking about Jesse's state of mind. I think it's safe to say they have heard all about Jesse via Todd's stories. While I firmly believe Jesse would never cook for them or work with Todd, who's to say they don't grab Jesse and force him to cook anyway? Perhaps this is how Jesse gets out of this shootout alive. It was in this episode that Jesse stated to Hank that he was one of the two best meth cooks in the world. We already knew that, why remind us? Perhaps they took the "one cook only" deal with Walt just to get to Jesse. Leverage on Jesse: They know about Andrea and Brock now.

I'm thinking that they kill Hank and Gomez, grab Jesse, and Walt has to go on the run because of Marie. Todd may die as well, forcing them to grab Jesse. Remember, Marie doesn't know about Todd's group, and will assume Walt killed Hank. This would also drive Skylar, implicated or not, and the kids away from Walt as well. I think Skylar would have a big problem with Hank dying.

Walt coming back with an M60 is for Todd's group, why the ricin will be the mystery played up and saved for the finale. Will it be used on Jesse, Lydia, Todd or will we see Walt kill himself with it? I'd guess Lydia myself as Walt has already taken Mike's "half-measure" against her when he tried to threaten her, and hid the ricin under his hat. Time for the full-measure.

Keep in mind, it's quite possible that Walt was simply implicated to be Heisenberg when he goes on the run, and he may actually be smart enough to pin everything legally on Todd's group upon dealing with him when he returns. Wont win over Marie, but that ship already sailed. Lydia has to go for his story to work. The only real question is the confession tape, but if Marie took it to the police wouldn't people be thinking Hank was Heisenberg and not painting up Walt's house with the name?

That would certainly be the "the ending is a victory for Walter White" that Vince Gilligan has stated time and time again.

I don't get this Skyler leaves crap. Skyler may leave if she has to in order to save her own ass, but it won't be out of some sense of "shock" at what Walt has done. Marie very possibly may implore Skyler to give her the kids so they can go away and get free of this mess, and Skyler may go with that. I don't think Skyler is about to feign shock and reconcile with her sister as though nothing happened. I don't say that as Skyler hate at all -- I say it because I think Skyler is an underestimated player in all of this and may hold keys to the plot that remains we don't fully recognize at this point.

Dont agree. Skylar has already left him once. Now she's in it to protect the family. Hank is family. Notice she didn't mention killing Hank, which would have helped a hell of a lot more than trying to get Walt to kill Jesse.

Walt is not using the ricin to kill himself.

Thank you. That would be like him using a rusty spoon to induce tetanus and then not seeking help as his suicide mechanism. If he wanted some sort of fatal substance to ingest, I am highly confident that the wizard of meth could whip up some cyanide or something else rapidly fatal.

The ricin is for one of three purposes:

1) To kill an enemy he wants to suffer, like Jesse or possibly Lydia
2) To kill an enemy he can't get to with a conventional attack, like perhaps Lydia or maybe even Skyler depending on what goes down
3) As some sort of red herring, such as Jesse if you don't do X I'll use the ricin to kill Brock

That would be the hackiest of hack writing if he did.

Skyler leaving does nothing to protect any family. In fact, letting Marie take the kids without her protects them more. Whatever Skyler does, it's about covering her own ass.

$10 says Todd dies in the opening. More incentive to force Walt or Jesse to cook, possibly even at Walt's home, leading to its future state.

Good argument.

I personally believe none of Todd's group gets killed. I think Hank and Gomez are gonna hit no one, run out of bullets and then get nailed.

My question of whether Todd gets killed is: If this were so, then Jesse Plemons gets promoted to feature cast member and is only in 4 episodes as such?

It's happened before to surprise audiences on other shows: actors being billed as main cast members, only to be killed off quickly.

Vince Gilligan called him "Opie Hitler" in this week's podcast. I don't think his story ends in the shootout.

They don't need to kill him to need Walter and/or Jesse to cook. The purity reason is reason enough. I sort of hope they get the whole gang back together for this last horrible idea of a cook in Walt's house. That would be interesting.