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Old 04-05-13 | 02:10 PM
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Re: The Walking Dead -- Season Finale -- "Welcome to the Tombs" -- 3/31/13

Originally Posted by VinVega
If they headed out west, the Hoover Dam would still be generating electricity. Las Vegas would still have power unless humans had cut the electrical lines. Life After People taught me that.
Going into Vegas would be like stepping into a Walker Nest.
Old 04-05-13 | 02:20 PM
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Re: The Walking Dead -- Season Finale -- "Welcome to the Tombs" -- 3/31/13

Originally Posted by RocShemp
Unless they are drastically different from their comic book counterparts (as was the case with Andrea), I don't get all the love for Tyrese and Sasha. They both sucked and I'm actually glad little to no time was spent on them in season 3. Making them regulars isn't good news to me in the slightest.
Tyreese seems like the first real character they've added to the Walking Dead show since Herschel. I would have no problem at this point with them bumping off Rick and giving Tyreese the leadership role. I suspect Sasha will simply fade into the background, much like Beth.

The character that has been a disaster is Michonne. Her story, dialogue and the actress playing her were all pretty bad for such a featured role in season three. But the comic fans seem to love her, so she will stick around since she swings a sword.

In the Walking Dead universe, Tyreese is correctly spelled with the two "e"s. I see everyone trying to spell it the normal way, but that is not how Kirkman writes the name.
Old 04-05-13 | 04:04 PM
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Re: The Walking Dead -- Season Finale -- "Welcome to the Tombs" -- 3/31/13

Originally Posted by Lifepawn
Are we sure Penny was his daughter? If he only told that to Andrea he was probably lying.

I'm thinking its a list of his former students and he was a teacher or bus driver or something when the zpocalypse broke out. Total guess. Probably wrong, but it would make his characters' fall into madness more interesting.

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yes, I've read the comics but the show is different
Didn't the Governor say something to Milton like "If I'd been like this since the beginning, my daughter would still be alive!"

Of course, if you view the Rise of the Governor book as cannon, there's a shitty, pointless twist to the character that makes things even stranger.
Old 04-05-13 | 04:10 PM
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The Governor said (in the show) during the sitdown with Rick that his job involved him having a much younger boss. I took it to mean that he was an office worker or something like that (or maybe he even said it, I don't remember).
Old 04-05-13 | 04:11 PM
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Originally Posted by PhantomStranger
The character that has been a disaster is Michonne. Her story, dialogue and the actress playing her were all pretty bad for such a featured role in season three.
Yeah, good call. Actress playing Michonne is painfully bad and that scowl she makes in every scene makes me want to punch her.

Old 04-05-13 | 05:44 PM
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Re: The Walking Dead -- Season Finale -- "Welcome to the Tombs" -- 3/31/13

Originally Posted by Finisher
Yeah, good call. Actress playing Michonne is painfully bad and that scowl she makes in every scene makes me want to punch her.

True, but she would kill you and make you one of her zombie mules. I ain't goin' out like that.
Old 04-05-13 | 06:12 PM
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Originally Posted by RocShemp
That said, in such a situation, small islands would be prime real estate and aggressively guarded.
Not if they went to Tom Hanks' island in Cast Away. Nobody found his ass even after 4 years, and Hanks had to risk his life to leave the island! In a case like this, never being found is ideal for the Rickgroup.

The creators of The Walking Dead owe a lot to Stephen King's The Stand:

you got Rick (Stu Redman)
you got/had Lori (Frannie Goldsmith)
you had/had Shane (Harold Lauder)
you have the Governor (Randall Flagg)
you have/had Milton (Lloyd Henreid)
Old 04-05-13 | 06:20 PM
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Re: The Walking Dead -- Season Finale -- "Welcome to the Tombs" -- 3/31/13

On an island there might be zombie Wilsons.
Old 04-05-13 | 06:23 PM
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Re: The Walking Dead -- Season Finale -- "Welcome to the Tombs" -- 3/31/13

Originally Posted by majorjoe23
On an island there might be zombie Wilsons.
Old 04-05-13 | 07:47 PM
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Re: The Walking Dead -- Season Finale -- "Welcome to the Tombs" -- 3/31/13

Originally Posted by Big Boy Laroux
I always took the slashes to be nothing - just the sign of a guy going crazy, like The Shining's "All work and no play makes jack a dull boy".
Or just doodle designs. I do this all the time when I'm bored in meetings.
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What "mission" could the Governor be on in Season 4?

#1 - he's isolated and alone, ostrasised from Woodbury based on the survivor telling everyone that the Governor is a psychopath and kills his people on whims. He can never return there, he killed his "loyal" servant (Milton) and his lover (Andrea). He has nobody now.

#2 - is his "rant" simply going to be Revenge against the Rickgroup? Is that all the Governor wants in his life - to eliminate, anniliate the six or seven people in the original Rickgroup? Then what, Gov? what will your life be after they're all dead? what'cha gonna do after?

#3 - sure, he could recruit new people, and develop a brand-new "town," but something like that would take a lot of damn time. He's got Martinez and the black guy (forgot his name - he never really had a story or any lines in the show that I can remember). Big deal.

Basically, what will the Aftermath be for Philip aka The Governator? Will Act III simply be petty revenge (for which he has no basis for, since he's the one who started the damn war) against Rickgroup? Or is there a Bigger Picture here that will be revealed in time?
Old 04-05-13 | 11:21 PM
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Re: The Walking Dead -- Season Finale -- "Welcome to the Tombs" -- 3/31/13

Originally Posted by nodeerforamonth
According to some zombie lore, zombies don't do well at all in cold climates. If anything, they should move north, not west.
I suppose that, in theory, a zombie is dead and isn't metabolizing anything, so if they are placed in an environment with temperatures below freezing, they will eventually freeze solid like a chunk of meat.
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Originally Posted by Buttmunker
Basically, what will the Aftermath be for Philip aka The Governator?
I think they'll treat him like The Humungus in Road Warrior. Basically showing up on occasion to harass and kill or maim a hero or two. I think he'll build his numbers with other cutthroat scavengers. He has no other purpose than revenge. I think he'll last about half the season, and eventually die in an assault on the prison, a massive fire or explosion that forces everyone out of the prison.
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Re: The Walking Dead -- Season Finale -- "Welcome to the Tombs" -- 3/31/13

Originally Posted by bluetoast
The Governor said (in the show) during the sitdown with Rick that his job involved him having a much younger boss. I took it to mean that he was an office worker or something like that (or maybe he even said it, I don't remember).
I thought him and Milton worked at Staples or Best Buy.
Old 04-06-13 | 10:06 AM
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Originally Posted by Finisher
Yeah, good call. Actress playing Michonne is painfully bad and that scowl she makes in every scene makes me want to punch her.

I got tired of her scowl and mute personality early on, but I thought she did ok in the car when she convinced Merle not to take her to Woodbury. And I thought she was appropriately upset when she realized Andrea's fate in the season finale.
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I know the producers like to shock the audience by killing off regular characters from Season 1, but after 3 seasons of decimating the original cast I'd like to see them surprise us in Season 4 by not killing off a single Season 1 character. It's almost expected now that each season they're going to kill 3 or more Season 1 characters, but there aren't that many left. I'm sure they could deliver a few shocking deaths with Season 2, 3 and 4 characters.

Speaking of original cast members...

Why the heck haven't the producers moved Melissa McBride into the opening credits yet? She may be a supporting player, but she had a lot more to do and say than Sarah Wayne Callies did in Season 3, and she remained in the opening credits long after Lori died. By keeping McBride out of the opening credits, do they want us to think it makes Carol more expendable than the actors in the opening credits? Even the kid who plays Carl is in the opening credits, and his role isn't very big either.
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Originally Posted by ddrknghtrtns
I thought him and Milton worked at Staples or Best Buy.
They were part of Geek Squads until Best Buy went out of business, thank god for the zombie apocalypse or else Phil and Milton would have to apply at Toys R Us.
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Re: The Walking Dead -- Season Finale -- "Welcome to the Tombs" -- 3/31/13

Originally Posted by Joe Schmoe
Why the heck haven't the producers moved Melissa McBride into the opening credits yet? She may be a supporting player, but she had a lot more to do and say than Sarah Wayne Callies did in Season 3, and she remained in the opening credits long after Lori died. By keeping McBride out of the opening credits, do they want us to think it makes Carol more expendable than the actors in the opening credits? Even the kid who plays Carl is in the opening credits, and his role isn't very big either.
It could be as simple as some kind of contract issue. Maybe she has an option to leave whenever she wants so they don't make her a regular. I don't think it's anything nefarious. It's just the deal she has for the show.
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Originally Posted by majorjoe23
On an island there might be zombie Wilsons.
Now I'm picturing this scene but with a volleyball:

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Old 04-06-13 | 03:14 PM
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Re: The Walking Dead -- Season Finale -- "Welcome to the Tombs" -- 3/31/13

Originally Posted by ddrknghtrtns
I thought him and Milton worked at Staples or Best Buy.
The idea that the governor had a low level/low pay job before the zombies reminds me of Hitler.
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Re: The Walking Dead -- Season Finale -- "Welcome to the Tombs" -- 3/31/13

I can't decide if "Dark Carl" would be a better cocktail name or euphemism for taking a dump.
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Re: The Walking Dead -- Season Finale -- "Welcome to the Tombs" -- 3/31/13

Originally Posted by Joe Schmoe
I know the producers like to shock the audience by killing off regular characters from Season 1, but after 3 seasons of decimating the original cast I'd like to see them surprise us in Season 4 by not killing off a single Season 1 character. It's almost expected now that each season they're going to kill 3 or more Season 1 characters, but there aren't that many left. I'm sure they could deliver a few shocking deaths with Season 2, 3 and 4 characters.

Speaking of original cast members...

Why the heck haven't the producers moved Melissa McBride into the opening credits yet? She may be a supporting player, but she had a lot more to do and say than Sarah Wayne Callies did in Season 3, and she remained in the opening credits long after Lori died. By keeping McBride out of the opening credits, do they want us to think it makes Carol more expendable than the actors in the opening credits? Even the kid who plays Carl is in the opening credits, and his role isn't very big either.
http://tvline.com/2013/04/04/walking...eries-regular/
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Sounds like McBride's not losing any sleep over when and where her name appears in the credits because she considers herself a series regular already.

Still, I'm still not clear on how producers determine which regulars' names appear during the show's theme music and which ones get listed as "also starring" after the first commercial break. I always took it as a sign that the "also starring" actors played less important, supporting characters and were therefore more expendable... not just on this show but on other shows that handle their credits the same way.
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Re: The Walking Dead -- Season Finale -- "Welcome to the Tombs" -- 3/31/13

Originally Posted by DVDsucker
I can't decide if "Dark Carl" would be a better cocktail name or euphemism for taking a dump.
How about a cocktail that makes you take a dump?
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Re: The Walking Dead -- Season Finale -- "Welcome to the Tombs" -- 3/31/13

Originally Posted by rw2516
The idea that the governor had a low level/low pay job before the zombies reminds me of Hitler.
I remember on one of the episodes the governor mentioning having to take orders from a young idiot. From my brief experience of working in retail, I knew where he was coming from.


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