Osiris3657

Bill Needle

Even Holden practically begged the 'Talking Dead' audience not to hate her character during her appearance the week prior. She actually seemed pretty shook up about it, unless of course she was acting.

Astrofan

I have no knowledge, or interest, in what occurs in the comic. But certainly you could tie this up at any time. Perhaps with the discovery of a cure or some other resolution.

davidh777

I don't think the group would necessarily need to engineer a discovery. It's a been-used-before sci-fi device for people to blunder into a revelation, e.g., they wander into a roomful of computers and actually start some video playing and say "Oh my god! So this is why it happened!" Granted, they might have to wander up to Washington DC or somewhere for that to occur, but that would be one possible way.

RocShemp

Yes! Maybe! I just don't know!

Why So Blu?

Well, they did hint at that during the first season when they were at the CDC (I think it was the CDC) and that led nowhere.

Bill Needle

Here's your resolution: Come up with a way to make money from exterminating walkers. Example: There were 60 million bison roaming the Great Plains in the mid 1800s, 40 years later only a few thousand.

Terminate walker
?
Profit
End of zombie apocalypse

Draven

Yes, that exact scenario played out already. The group wandering into the CDC with a scientist who can still run the computers is the closest they'll ever get to dealing with a "cure".

Luds

I'd agree with this.
The first half of the season was fantastic. The second half was very average. Maybe this is why. They dragged out the last few episodes, placing the return of Morgan in an episode where Rick and Co go grab some guns and ammo. Then this 1 on 1 with Gov, and all that guy talked about was that they'd go back to the prison and kill them all. The audience was perfectly conditioned to expect a big fight in the last episode, and likely many deaths.

Because the "fight" in question was so lackluster, nothing happened really, this finale felt like a huge disappointment to me. Not because there were no cliffhangers, I really didn't mind that. I wanted some kind of resolution to the Prison vs. Woodbury feud. I think it's perfectly fine for Rick's crew to remain in the prison, to take in the remaining "weak" members of Woodbury, I'm all fine with this. But the absence of closure really bothered me.

As for the return of the Gov next season, that seems like a terrible decision to me, from writers and producers that really didn't understand how to finalize the situation, but if he does return, then at least deal with it quickly and have him bite the dust.

Andrea is another story. I never disliked her like most of the complaints on this forum. But having spent so much time keeping her alive and making the wrong decisions, such as not killing the Gov, felt like utter destruction of her character, leading to the absolute worst decision, her death in a way that brings no joy to any viewers. Either have her escape and salvage the bad writing around her character next season, or kill her off in a very graphic manner to make the haters happy. We had none of it.

devilshalo

They did come to the knowledge that everyone living has the virus that causes it from that encounter. There's no telling what the original trigger for it was though.

argh923

Who exactly has Rick gotten killed? Because Carl's the reason Dale is dead.

[QUOTE=Finisher;11637869]This is a REALLY good point.

This is just a ridiculous comment. Andrew Lincoln does a great job on this show.

Seriously. This show is a ratings juggernaut. It's not "in danger" by any means.

Exactly how do you know what the MASSIVE audience of this show, which keeps growing and growing, wants?

Nope. Just some people on the internet who think they represent everyone.

Buttmunker

Pun intended?

JCWBobC

A question for the Andrea haters concerning why they hate her so much? Think about it from her point of view. She's a Civil Rights lawyer who gets caught up in the zombie apocalypse. She has to shoot her own sister in the head, she loses her best friend in the group when Dale is killed, and at the end of season 2 she alone in the woods being chased by an unknown number of zombies. Thankfully she is saved by Michonne but they don't have it easy until they are taken to Woodbury where she finds a somewhat normal life and a very charismatic leader who she is attracted to. She has no idea what is going on behind closed doors like we do until the prison group comes to save Glen & Maggie. She finds out the prison group are her group who she didn't even know were still alive. So she tries to bring peace to both groups in the hopes that they can all live together, still not knowing about the Governor's crazy side.

She goes to the prison to talk to Rick and the group but they treat her like an outsider, which she doesn't understand because she is being lied to by the Governor and has no reason to doubt him. She goes back to town hoping that she can work things out and ends up sleeping with the Governor again because she still has feelings for him and hasn't seen what the others are telling her. She considers killing him but she's not at the point where Carl is and can't kill an unarmed man in his sleep. Everything after that was her trying to save the people of Woodbury until she finally realizes just how far gone the Governor is & tries to get back to the prison but is caught and taken back to Woodbury.

I'm not saying everything she did was smart or realistic, considering what they are all going through, but i'd like to hear what the Andrea haters would have done in her place not knowing everything that the viewers knew? By the time she realized the Governor was crazy she really cared about the people in the town and wanted to help them but she also wanted to keep her friends in the prison safe.

TheHive08

Uhhhh...this was already asked AND answered. But since you decided to skip over it, here's the copy and paste:

Does EVERYONE hate Andrea? Of course not. But a majority didn't like her character and vocalized that in various forums throughout the Internet. Don't get mad at me because she was so awfully written that people were happy she bit the dust.

thebunk

Fanboys, take your heads out of the sand. You don't think people associated with the show do any research regarding what the audience likes and dislikes? In this day and age? Really?

thebunk

As I said further down the line, I can see certain things being debatable, and one of them being Lincoln's acting. I personally find it hilarious, especially in the over-wrought scenes, but I can see some people liking it.

But really, whether it is acting or the direction "Hey, can you try to look somewhat aimless over there, on the ground to the right. Yeah, that dung beetle moving on the ground. Yup, just stare at it, count to 5 in your head, think of your dead grandmother to well up some tears then look at the other character you are supposed to be interacting with. Perfect!".

Navinabob

In the original version he does go off alone and explores to discover Andrea chained up and eaten. They then re-shot scenes to be what we saw the other night. My guess is they thought that scene was "good enough" to not reshoot (maybe the extras in the background would make continuity difficult?).

argh923

I didn't skip over it, that's just a silly answer. A few dozen people on the internet do not equal "the majority of the audience".

argh923

Is there a link that discusses this?

arminius

Things like "Using forums, The Walking Dead's Facebook page, Twitter, etc...." are of course affecting the show. Just as Daryl became a fan favorite Andrea went the opposite way. I would think Daryl is getting a better write due to that and Andrea got eated. I can understand some of the excuses for her actions but they do not redeem the character.

Matthew Chmiel

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fumanstan

Yeah, there was certainly far more then just "a few dozen people" that disliked Andrea. I agree that the way you can tell that Daryl has become popular, there's the general feeling that Andrea wasn't. I don't know if the majority of viewers out there liked her, but I also certainly wouldn't say the opposite and that she was loved.

Dragon Tattoo

The actress herself said she was being confronted by angry fans on the street about her role. She practically begged people on The Talking Dead to realize that she was not actually Andrea.

You'd have to be blind to not realize that a significant amount of fans hate Andrea.

And yet we'll still have psychopaths on this forum debating Carl's actions as being in the right, even when the very people making the show are depicting it as the kid losing his humanity. "Kirkman and the writers are all clearly wrong, the kid was still coming for him! He had every right to gun him down!"

spainlinx0

I don't care if Kirkman is saying what he was trying to depict. If he was trying to show it as Carl losing his humanity and gunning the kid down in cold blood he should have done a better job of choreographing that on the screen. He also expected long drawn out idiocy in that cell from Andrea to make us sympathetic towards her, and how exactly did that work out for him.

If the kid drops the gun and raises his hands in the air, and then Carl pops him, I'm going to side with the cold blooded killer crowd. There were a million better ways to show that, and the ambiguous nature in which it was shot doesn't lead me to believe that it's so clear.

You can call us who believe it was a good shooting sociopaths all you want, but I'm going to side with Carl and not Herschel or Kirkman on this one.

rw2516

I think Carl would have shot him gun or no gun. Carl pretty much told Rick they should have killed all the prisoners right off when they got to the prison. I believe Carl want's to "eliminate" all the people brought in from Woodbury because he see them as a threat. Wouldn't suprise me if Carl just ups and shoots some unarmed old man or woman next season as part of "Dark Carl" storyline.