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Old 03-03-13 | 10:30 PM
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Re: The Walking Dead - "Clear" -- 03/03/2013

Er, spoiler alert putz?
Old 03-03-13 | 10:37 PM
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Re: The Walking Dead - "Clear" -- 03/03/2013

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Er, spoiler alert putz?
Spoiler:
Some characters in the comic are still alive.
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Re: The Walking Dead - "Clear" -- 03/03/2013

Originally Posted by Michael Corvin
Holy crap, yes! Fantastic performance in a fantastic episode. I doubt we will see him again. They played up the differences in how Rick vs. Morgan survived to much. i.e. this is how it could have ended up for Rick if he wasn't a leader/survivor.

I really like his reintroduction on the show better than in the comic as well as how they dealt with Duane.



Not that this will help, but they covered it pretty well in this episode. After leaving the hospital Rick stumbled into Morgan's yard. IIRC, Duane knocked him out with a shovel. Later Rick, Morgan and Duane were holed up in Morgan's place at night. Morgan let on that his wife was a walker in the street. Rick gave him a rifle to take her out and went on his way. They showed Morgan's wife through the scope but not whether or not he shot her.

Yeah, they wrapped up his storyline pretty well. I think it would take away from the emotional power of this episode if he just had a change of heart and decided to come join Rick.

I gotta give mad props to the design department. So much detail and thought went into building Morgan's little world of bobby traps and crazy writings. He even had escape routes mapped out in different chalk colors. This was obviously the results of a man who has been alone for a very long time.
Old 03-03-13 | 11:01 PM
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Re: The Walking Dead - "Clear" -- 03/03/2013

Oh yeah, I really liked this episode, but you'd think a gaggle of walkers could pretty much push their way through two, mostly glass, doors.
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Re: The Walking Dead - "Clear" -- 03/03/2013

I liked this episode a lot. The Michonne and Carl bit was good, I thought, because we finally got to see her interact using her words. Morgan and Rick was kind of sad to see, and damn if they're weren't cold with that hitchhiker. Stopping the car and picking up his bag was an especially brutal touch, IMO.

Good episode, and I agree with others. Andrea was great this time around.
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Re: The Walking Dead - "Clear" -- 03/03/2013

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Oh yeah, I really liked this episode, but you'd think a gaggle of walkers could pretty much push their way through two, mostly glass, doors.
Spoiler:
They can't.
Old 03-03-13 | 11:10 PM
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Re: The Walking Dead - "Clear" -- 03/03/2013

Originally Posted by Tom Creo
Doesn't matter. We'll still have posts about how stupid Andrea is, an unlimited supply of arrows, and why would anyone drive a car with their windows rolled down.
The windows were rolled up!!! Hallelujah, the windows were rolled up!!!!

Old 03-03-13 | 11:19 PM
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Re: The Walking Dead - "Clear" -- 03/03/2013

Originally Posted by Dragon Tattoo
Spoiler:
They can't.
Thank you for using a spoiler wrap. Unfortunately now I can't read it, but I'll come back in a couple of years. Can anyone, who doesn't know the future, explain a solution here?
Old 03-03-13 | 11:30 PM
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Re: The Walking Dead - "Clear" -- 03/03/2013

Originally Posted by troystiffler
Andrea being stupid is just part of the show. Doesn't make the show bad.
Do you think she is written to be stupid? I find her annoying, as well as being a stupid character. I don't think she was created with the intentions to be disliked, but I don't like her one bit.

It might be the actress or it might be the writing, but its most likely a combination of both.
Old 03-03-13 | 11:31 PM
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Re: The Walking Dead - "Clear" -- 03/03/2013

Originally Posted by Astrofan
Thank you for using a spoiler wrap. Unfortunately now I can't read it, but I'll come back in a couple of years. Can anyone, who doesn't know the future, explain a solution here?
cause they can't
Old 03-03-13 | 11:35 PM
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Originally Posted by Astrofan
Thank you for using a spoiler wrap. Unfortunately now I can't read it, but I'll come back in a couple of years. Can anyone, who doesn't know the future, explain a solution here?
Spoiler:
You'll be dead in a couple of years. Complications from leukemia. My condolences.
Old 03-03-13 | 11:36 PM
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Re: The Walking Dead - "Clear" -- 03/03/2013

I too am confused by geography. I thought Rick originally lived somewhere in northern Georgia. Then he headed south towards Atlanta, and when that didn't work out, the gang headed south again... towards Fort Benning, I guess? That's in the southwest part of the state, but Columbus. Woodbury is kind of on the way there, so it makes sense that they'd stop there. It also explains why Rick had no idea where the prison was, 'cos it's a couple hundred miles from where he used to live. But I don't understand why Rick would drive through (or around) suburban Atlanta to go back to his station. There must be 100 gun stores in metro Atlanta... why not try there first? Or a police station near there?

Also, I love Lennie James... but I guess I'm the only one who had a problem with his accent. Seems like he'd start a sentence with the standard Midwest accent, then he'd pile on the Southern as the sentence went on (unless there was a word he could easily exaggerate at the beginning of the sentence). And then his English would bleed through every now and then. It was like "I've been waiting here for months... and theen ya'll decide'd ta come bayck... eh, mate?"

Like I said, love the actor, but he needs to work on the accent. For some reason, it reminded me of Dexter Fletcher, who had a GREAT American accent in Band of Brothers, but an AWFUL one a couple years later in an episode of Hotel Babylon.
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Re: The Walking Dead - "Clear" -- 03/03/2013

Originally Posted by Dragon Tattoo
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You constantly keep me guessing as to whether you're just really incompetent or really inconsiderate. I guess it could be both.

This was a really good episode.
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Re: The Walking Dead - "Clear" -- 03/03/2013

Originally Posted by John Slider
You constantly keep me guessing as to whether you're just really incompetent or really inconsiderate. I guess it could be both.
Spoiler:
I think you know. On that note, I wonder if Negan will kill Glenn in the show like he did in issue 100.
Old 03-03-13 | 11:54 PM
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Re: The Walking Dead - "Clear" -- 03/03/2013

I thought there was a wee bit much of emoting going on between Rick and Morgan, it seemed a little overwrought.
Old 03-04-13 | 12:07 AM
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Re: The Walking Dead - "Clear" -- 03/03/2013

FYI, This episode was written by Scott Gimple, the new showrunner.
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Re: The Walking Dead - "Clear" -- 03/03/2013

One of the better episodes of the season but that isn't saying much ...

Originally Posted by PhantomStranger
I thought there was a wee bit much of emoting going on between Rick and Morgan, it seemed a little overwrought.
I've found the acting (especially in this second half of this third season) to be very wooden or over the top

after a good first season and even better second I'm quickly becoming disinterested
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Re: The Walking Dead - "Clear" -- 03/03/2013

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and damn if they're weren't cold with that hitchhiker. Stopping the car and picking up his bag was an especially brutal touch
Overall great episode, but the hitchhiker stuff was excellent. Just short, well-done scenes that say so much about the characters.
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Originally Posted by musick
after a good first season and even better second I'm quickly becoming disinterested
Wow. Fucking wow.
Old 03-04-13 | 12:30 AM
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Re: The Walking Dead - "Clear" -- 03/03/2013

Originally Posted by Big Boy Laroux
Overall great episode, but the hitchhiker stuff was excellent. Just short, well-done scenes that say so much about the characters.
Spoiler:
oh my god the ending was utterly tragic and sad


the episode was probably my fave of the season so far.

the zombies in the cafe seemed very 'Fulci' in style and look
Old 03-04-13 | 12:41 AM
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Re: The Walking Dead - "Clear" -- 03/03/2013

Originally Posted by John Slider
You constantly keep me guessing as to whether you're just really incompetent or really inconsiderate. I guess it could be both.
Old 03-04-13 | 12:50 AM
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Re: The Walking Dead - "Clear" -- 03/03/2013

Originally Posted by Big Boy Laroux
Overall great episode, but the hitchhiker stuff was excellent. Just short, well-done scenes that say so much about the characters.
I think it was perfect to illustrate where their heads were at. As Scott Porter said afterwards on Talking Dead, given where they were emotionally coming back, they probably would have stopped.

It's certainly a risk to take time out from the ongoing storyline to tell a side story that doesn't obviously advance the main plot. Most of the AMC shows do this at some point or another. Sometimes they work (Breaking Bad); sometimes they don't (The Killing).

I thought this did work. They've pushed the Rick character to the brink, and in some ways over the brink. While he still had moments of lucidity in absolute crisis, he needed to see what he could become. Lucky for them they had the excellent Lennie James to call on as a character we still sort of cared about that was not connected at all to the main storylines. Rick gets to see where he's headed emotionally in time to try to reign it back. It's also a perfect time to try to finally develop a character trait for Michonne other than unemotive badass to solidify her place in the tribe.

I think they accomplished both goals very well.
Old 03-04-13 | 12:54 AM
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Re: The Walking Dead - "Clear" -- 03/03/2013

Yeah, I guess I'm against the grain here. I hated most of this episode. They did one stupid thing after another. And either the geography makes no sense whatsoever, or they drove an incredibly stupid distance (considering limited availability of fuel) to get back to Rick'sl town, when they must've gone through loads of others.

And Carl, the shit-heal is back. I suppose that's my fault for mentioning that he didn't annoy me last week.

It was good to see Morgan back, however. I was wondering last week if he'd ever show up again. A shame about the circumstances, but some resolution anyway.

The hitch-hiker story was pretty cold, indeed.
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Re: The Walking Dead - "Clear" -- 03/03/2013

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Re: The Walking Dead - "Clear" -- 03/03/2013

Downright excellent episode. Just beautifully acted and soul crushing. Loved it. Thank goodness TWD is back in its prime.


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