The Walking Dead - "I Ain't a Judas" -- 02/24/2013
02-25-13 | 06:02 AM
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Re: The Walking Dead - "I Ain't a Judas" -- 02/24/2013
I hate Andrea as much as the next guy, but I got to give her some credit. She is the only character I've seen on this show that actually decided to roll the window up when she drove. 
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02-25-13 | 06:07 AM
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Re: The Walking Dead - "I Ain't a Judas" -- 02/24/2013
^ Did she really? I was looking for that but the camera angles were kinda awkward so I wasn't sure. So I just assumed Andrea probably rolled hers way down.
02-25-13 | 08:47 AM
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Re: The Walking Dead - "I Ain't a Judas" -- 02/24/2013
Another dud this week.
However what was impressive, the production crew someone managed to get a Tom Waits song in the show. That was something I got excited for and recognized instantly when Beth started singing it.
However what was impressive, the production crew someone managed to get a Tom Waits song in the show. That was something I got excited for and recognized instantly when Beth started singing it.
02-25-13 | 08:51 AM
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So, given how things are progressing, I guess we're not gonna be getting a
in the show.
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02-25-13 | 08:58 AM
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Re: The Walking Dead - "I Ain't a Judas" -- 02/24/2013
I enjoyed this episode. Great scenes: Merle/Michonne, Merle/Herschal, Carl/Rick, and it was great to see Andrea's welcome. Here's hoping Rick and Michonne have a nice Sunday drive next episode.
02-25-13 | 11:15 AM
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Re: The Walking Dead - "I Ain't a Judas" -- 02/24/2013
So I originally thought the Governor calling Merle a traitor was to insert him into Rick's group. Now that that is obviously not the case, why does the Governor regard him as a traitor? Because he lied about killing Michonne, like he was supposed to? The Governor thinks he purposely let her go?
Thos.
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02-25-13 | 11:29 AM
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Re: The Walking Dead - "I Ain't a Judas" -- 02/24/2013
So I originally thought the Governor calling Merle a traitor was to insert him into Rick's group. Now that that is obviously not the case, why does the Governor regard him as a traitor? Because he lied about killing Michonne, like he was supposed to? The Governor thinks he purposely let her go?
Thos.
Thos.
02-25-13 | 12:04 PM
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Re: The Walking Dead - "I Ain't a Judas" -- 02/24/2013
God, I really, really hope they kill off Andrea by the end of the season. But I know they won't. She's an easy character to write for and is a crutch for "instant conflict". Removing her would not only end our suffering, it might force the writing staff to step things up a bit.
By the way, I watched Fantastic Four over the weekend and Laurie Holden plays an annoying, selfish jerk there, too. At least in that role she showed off some nice legs.
By the way, I watched Fantastic Four over the weekend and Laurie Holden plays an annoying, selfish jerk there, too. At least in that role she showed off some nice legs.
02-25-13 | 12:06 PM
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Re: The Walking Dead - "I Ain't a Judas" -- 02/24/2013
Because he lied about killing Michonne. He was pissed and surprised to find her still alive, she was the one that took out his eye, and this is, partly Merle's fault (in his eyes...or eye). I don't think it's so much that he thinks "Merle let her go" as much as "Merle didn't follow my orders exactly as I commanded, and lied about carrying them out, so I can't trust him."
02-25-13 | 12:15 PM
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Re: The Walking Dead - "I Ain't a Judas" -- 02/24/2013
Because he lied about killing Michonne. He was pissed and surprised to find her still alive, she was the one that took out his eye, and this is, partly Merle's fault (in his eyes...or eye). I don't think it's so much that he thinks "Merle let her go" as much as "Merle didn't follow my orders exactly as I commanded, and lied about carrying them out, so I can't trust him."
It's interesting how they're trying to bring him back into the fold. I still think they will off him this season. When push comes to shove, the only person Merle cares about is Merle. That being said, they are trying to humanize him. That scene with Hershel talking about the bible was one. No one in this world is 100% good or evil, even the Governor. The Gov is more bad than good though and he's bad for Rick's group, so he's got to go.
02-25-13 | 12:29 PM
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Re: The Walking Dead - "I Ain't a Judas" -- 02/24/2013
So I originally thought the Governor calling Merle a traitor was to insert him into Rick's group. Now that that is obviously not the case, why does the Governor regard him as a traitor? Because he lied about killing Michonne, like he was supposed to? The Governor thinks he purposely let her go?
Thos.
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Yeah, I'm thinking that might be why he hates Merle.
02-25-13 | 12:54 PM
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Re: The Walking Dead - "I Ain't a Judas" -- 02/24/2013
I didn't mind the episode since it was clearly an episode where we had to stop and show the viewers where everyone stands. It's funny, had they not don't the Merle & Michonne talk people would be bitching about them glossing over their past history. Had they not done the Daryl & Carol scene people would be bitching about them not having a reunion considering their past history. Same with Carl & Rick, Rick & Asskicker, Andrea/knife & Governor, Glen & Rick over Merle, ect ect. They addressed every major social dynamic that the internet would bust a blood vessel over ("OMG, like Michonne would be living with Merle now... FAKE!) and people still complain.
Oh well, I'm happy they tossed in a Waits song. I'm sure the six of us who recognized it loved that bit.
Go out and buy the Mule Variations CD by Tom Waits!
Oh well, I'm happy they tossed in a Waits song. I'm sure the six of us who recognized it loved that bit.
Go out and buy the Mule Variations CD by Tom Waits!
02-25-13 | 12:57 PM
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Re: The Walking Dead - "I Ain't a Judas" -- 02/24/2013
My original point was that the way the Governor announced to the crowd, he made it appear that Merle had been working with Rick's group all along. Whereas the whole Michonne/daughter/eye really was something personal. Then he made it out to the people of Woodbury as something larger so they would rally to his call to arms. Merle wasn't really a traitor. He just f'ed up big time.
Thos.
02-25-13 | 01:03 PM
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Re: The Walking Dead - "I Ain't a Judas" -- 02/24/2013
Yeah, I get it.
My original point was that the way the Governor announced to the crowd, he made it appear that Merle had been working with Rick's group all along. Whereas the whole Michonne/daughter/eye really was something personal. Then he made it out to the people of Woodbury as something larger so they would rally to his call to arms. Merle wasn't really a traitor. He just f'ed up big time.
Thos.
My original point was that the way the Governor announced to the crowd, he made it appear that Merle had been working with Rick's group all along. Whereas the whole Michonne/daughter/eye really was something personal. Then he made it out to the people of Woodbury as something larger so they would rally to his call to arms. Merle wasn't really a traitor. He just f'ed up big time.
Thos.
02-25-13 | 01:05 PM
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Re: The Walking Dead - "I Ain't a Judas" -- 02/24/2013
Yeah, I get it.
My original point was that the way the Governor announced to the crowd, he made it appear that Merle had been working with Rick's group all along. Whereas the whole Michonne/daughter/eye really was something personal. Then he made it out to the people of Woodbury as something larger so they would rally to his call to arms. Merle wasn't really a traitor. He just f'ed up big time.
Thos.
My original point was that the way the Governor announced to the crowd, he made it appear that Merle had been working with Rick's group all along. Whereas the whole Michonne/daughter/eye really was something personal. Then he made it out to the people of Woodbury as something larger so they would rally to his call to arms. Merle wasn't really a traitor. He just f'ed up big time.
Thos.
02-25-13 | 01:15 PM
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02-25-13 | 01:32 PM
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Re: The Walking Dead - "I Ain't a Judas" -- 02/24/2013
I love the slower paced episodes. All the character moments on this one were fantastic. The problem with season 2 was there were too many slow episodes back to back.
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02-25-13 | 02:37 PM
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Re: The Walking Dead - "I Ain't a Judas" -- 02/24/2013
Poor episode, but not all of them can be winners.