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Old 12-05-12 | 03:25 AM
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Re: is S2 of Homeland better than S1?

Originally Posted by Dan1boy
Oh please, not even close? Good grief.

S2 is just as exceptional as the first. It's the best show on television. Period.
It's a very good show, but in no way better than Game of Thrones or Breaking Bad in my view.

In terms of homeland I think both seasons have been terrific, with S1 a little more plausible and realistic than S2. S2 is like a smarter 24 to me
Old 12-05-12 | 03:30 AM
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Please explain. Why is it so surprising that I hate a show where the main character is a weak, worthless douchebag that does and deals drugs to other weak, worthless douchebags that don't deserve to breathe ?
Lol.. that is the most ridiculous description of Breaking Bad ever. American Ido reruns are coming on soon.
Old 12-05-12 | 05:11 AM
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Re: is S2 of Homeland better than S1?

Originally Posted by johnnysd
Lol.. that is the most ridiculous description of Breaking Bad ever. American Ido reruns are coming on soon.
How is that ridiculous ? That's basically what the show is about, isn't it ?
Old 12-05-12 | 06:06 AM
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Re: is S2 of Homeland better than S1?

Originally Posted by Spottedfeather
Please explain. Why is it so surprising that I hate a show where the main character is a weak, worthless douchebag that does and deals drugs to other weak, worthless douchebags that don't deserve to breathe ?
You're well on your way to get as many dirty looks as I did when I described Game of Thrones to my friends as "royal douchebags fighting over who gets to be King Douchebag".
Old 12-05-12 | 06:33 AM
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Re: is S2 of Homeland better than S1?

Well, at least some of the main characters in Game Of Thrones are good guys. The two main characters of Breaking Bad are worthless tools.
Old 12-05-12 | 07:54 AM
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Re: is S2 of Homeland better than S1?

Good trolling.

But anyway, Homeland is excellent, but ninja please, it's not even close to The Wire.
Old 12-05-12 | 08:02 AM
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Re: is S2 of Homeland better than S1?

Originally Posted by Spottedfeather
No, you're NOT done. I didn't say that no one had ever heard of Homeland. I said that I had never heard of it. Just because something is popular doesn't mean it's good. It just means that a lot of people like it. We already talked about this. Awards, at least most awards, aren't voted on by the majority of the viewing public. They're voted on by a committee of people that have been there for years and years and, most of the time, are out of touch with people actually like. Of course, every now and then, their views line up with the public's views.
So what makes Homeland not good is the fact that you've never heard of it? Is that what you're saying?
Old 12-05-12 | 08:25 AM
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I enjoyed Season One more.

Boardwalk Empire was the best fall show this year, bar none.
Old 12-05-12 | 08:27 AM
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Re: is S2 of Homeland better than S1?

Just stop replying to Spottedfeather folks.
Old 12-05-12 | 08:28 AM
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Originally Posted by adamblast
I was ready to be offended by the servicemen angle. All set to concern-troll on it. But it never happened. I was more offended by Last Resort, oddly enough.

Edit: But back to the comparative seasons. I'm hearing, and I agree, that S2 has sacrificed some characterization and plausibility for increased action and plot twists. For some that would make it a better season, for some a worse. And I'll heshup after repeating for me it's still good as evah.
Since this isn't the series thread, I'm not sure what I can say. Don't click if you don't want spoilers.

Spoiler:
Nazir personally coming to the US was lame. The expectation that Nazir would be in the SUV during the journalist raid was lame. Nazir personally and by himself holding Carrie was lame.

I thought this guy was an Osama bin Laden type?


Season 2 is turning into 24.
Old 12-05-12 | 08:30 AM
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Re: is S2 of Homeland better than S1?

here we go again
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Originally Posted by Spottedfeather
No, you're NOT done. I didn't say that no one had ever heard of Homeland. I said that I had never heard of it. Just because something is popular doesn't mean it's good. It just means that a lot of people like it. We already talked about this. Awards, at least most awards, aren't voted on by the majority of the viewing public. They're voted on by a committee of people that have been there for years and years and, most of the time, are out of touch with people actually like. Of course, every now and then, their views line up with the public's views.
Perfectly understandable if you don't have Showtime. Most everyone I know have never seen an episode much less heard of Homeland because they dont have Showtime. (Or HBO)
Old 12-05-12 | 08:34 AM
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Re: is S2 of Homeland better than S1?

I'm really enjoying season 2, but it definitely feels like it is getting '24-ized' a bit. Don't get me wrong... I like 24. It's just that the twists and turns of Homeland season 1 always felt natural and true to the story, while the big events in season 2 sometimes come off a bit telegraphed, as if they programmed in an exciting moment.
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I'm really enjoying season 2, but it definitely feels like it is getting '24-ized' a bit. Don't get me wrong... I like 24. It's just that the twists and turns of Homeland season 1 always felt natural and true to the story, while the big events in season 2 sometimes come off a bit telegraphed, as if they programmed in an exciting moment.
In hindsight, the introduction of Quinn Bauer should have been a red flag to all of us.
Spoiler:
He even got gut shot and is barely showing any discomfort anymore.
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Re: is S2 of Homeland better than S1?

Originally Posted by Spottedfeather
Why is it so surprising that I hate a show where the main character is a weak, worthless douchebag that does and deals drugs to other weak, worthless douchebags that don't deserve to breathe ?
Dad? What are you doing at DVDTalk?

Seriously though, did you like The Godfather or The Sopranos? Do you like Dexter, or any vampire shows? How about film noir? Is everyone on every show you've liked a moral, upstanding hero?

The moral compass of the main character is a weak reason to like or write off a show. That said, I can understand someone being too touchy about terrorism or the military to tolerate Homeland or too touchy about drugs/crime to tolerate Breaking Bad. Their loss.
Old 12-05-12 | 12:48 PM
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Re: is S2 of Homeland better than S1?

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How is that ridiculous ? That's basically what the show is about, isn't it ?
Actually not at all.
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Re: is S2 of Homeland better than S1?

Originally Posted by Goat3001
So what makes Homeland not good is the fact that you've never heard of it? Is that what you're saying?
No, that's not what I'm saying. Nothing I DID say could be interpreted as that.
Old 12-05-12 | 08:33 PM
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Re: is S2 of Homeland better than S1?

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Perfectly understandable if you don't have Showtime. Most everyone I know have never seen an episode much less heard of Homeland because they dont have Showtime. (Or HBO)
I have never said that I don't have Showtime. I just have never heard of the show other than the commercial where the characters from the show are in some guy's kitchen and the guy mentions that he's about to watch an all day marathon On Demand.
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Re: is S2 of Homeland better than S1?

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Dad? What are you doing at DVDTalk?

Seriously though, did you like The Godfather or The Sopranos? Do you like Dexter, or any vampire shows? How about film noir? Is everyone on every show you've liked a moral, upstanding hero?

The moral compass of the main character is a weak reason to like or write off a show. That said, I can understand someone being too touchy about terrorism or the military to tolerate Homeland or too touchy about drugs/crime to tolerate Breaking Bad. Their loss.
I HATE Godfather and Sopranos. I like shows with, at least, SOME likable characters instead of mostly worthless douchebags who think they're better than everybody else and so can break the law just because they feel like it. I'm not touchy about terrorism or the military to tolerate Homeland. People go way too far overboard on both sides of the issue. And I'm not too touchy about drugs and crime to tolerate Breaking Bad. I just prefer inspiring shows. Silly me, but I thought that you watched tv and movies to escape from the crap of real life, not watch shows about stuff that actually can happen. Breaking Bad is extremely boring. I'm not saying that that should stop people from liking it. I'm not that snobbish. I like plenty of boring shows and movies. But to be entertaining, a show should have at least a LITTLE something to pull in interest. I just don't see that with Godfather, Sopranos, and Breaking Bad.

I don't like nor dislike Dexter. It just doesn't interest me. And vampire shows....most newer vampire shows don't bring anything new to the mythos of vampires. They're basically just supernatural 90210. The last good and interesting vampire show was Forever Knight. Along with the standard vampire stuff, it had different species of vampire such as Carouche, who drink only from animals. The new shows are just more slightly interesting versions of Twilight. I LOVE film noir. Of course not every character on every show I've liked was a moral, upstanding hero. But I just can't stand shows where MOST of the people are douchebags and criminals.

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Re: is S2 of Homeland better than S1?

Originally Posted by johnnysd
Actually not at all.
Actually, that IS what Breaking Bad is about. Explain why it's not ?
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Re: is S2 of Homeland better than S1?

Is it too much to ask that we keep the discussion in this thread limited to Homeland?
Old 12-05-12 | 09:42 PM
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Re: is S2 of Homeland better than S1?

They're both great, but S2 is a slight dropoff from S1 IMO.
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So, we've come to conclusion that SpottedFeather hates every good show on TV. I'm glad we hashed that important topic out. What's next on the agenda?
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Re: is S2 of Homeland better than S1?

Originally Posted by Spottedfeather
I just prefer inspiring shows.
Touched By an Angel and Little House inspire me to want to poke my eyes out.
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Re: is S2 of Homeland better than S1?

What's wrong with inspiring shows ? And I don't hate every good show on tv. Just the really overrated, unoriginal ones. Dragon Tattoo, as I've said before, just because you like a show doesn't make it good. I like the 90s Fantastic Four cartoon. But is it a good show ? Hell, no. It has flaws all over the place. But it's entertaining. I also like Dark Shadows. But is it a good show ? Again, hell no. It, too, has multiple flaws. But it's fun to watch.


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