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Old 11-28-12 | 05:06 PM
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Re: The Walking Dead -- "When the Dead Come Knocking" -- 11/25/12

At least now we know Glenn's last name:

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Old 11-28-12 | 07:46 PM
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I speculate Michonne killing Merle. She seems like a serial killer.
It has to be Darryl. Has to be.
Old 11-29-12 | 12:47 AM
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Originally Posted by Preterite

That's how the best zombie media has dealt with things. The zombies themselves are a destructive force of nature that tears down society. The interesting part is how the survivors act in the aftermath. Ultimately, a good zombie story isn't much different than any other disaster/survival epic.
Seriously, someone who "Gets it".
Old 11-29-12 | 01:31 AM
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Seriously, someone who "Gets it".
But this element was mentioned in the forward of the first volume of the com-
Old 11-29-12 | 01:37 AM
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Yeah, pretty sure all of us who have read the comics have been saying that since the show started.
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Especially in the early days when there were complaints about not enough zombie action, all that stuff.
Old 11-29-12 | 02:50 AM
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Especially in the early days when there were complaints about not enough zombie action, all that stuff.
Yeah, I know. I was one of those saying this.
Old 11-29-12 | 03:47 AM
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Originally Posted by majorjoe23
I agree with this, in part because of what Kirkman said, and in part:

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Because characters missing hands always look shitty, even Merle. There's either a bulky bit of the "stump" where the hand should be, or their artificial appendage (knife in Merle's case, chainsaw in Ashe's) always looks too long because there's a real hand under it. To have a main character missing a hand would just make it even more obvious episode after episode.
I was thinking they really cannot do that for a show, just would not work all too well, annoying enough in the comic.
Old 11-29-12 | 09:29 AM
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Re: The Walking Dead -- "When the Dead Come Knocking" -- 11/25/12

Originally Posted by bluetoast
Especially in the early days when there were complaints about not enough zombie action, all that stuff.
I don't see those complaints any more, least not since the increase in zombie stuff. I think this season proves you can do both without sacrificing one or the other, and the show is far superior for it.
Old 11-29-12 | 09:49 AM
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Originally Posted by Bill Needle
I don't see those complaints any more, least not since the increase in zombie stuff. I think this season proves you can do both without sacrificing one or the other, and the show is far superior for it.
Yeah, I think the potential violence that Merle represents is much more suspenseful than the zombies. I mean, if a zombie gets someone, that's kind of expected at this point, and it's not really scary. Not knowing, though, if Merle was going to kill Glenn, though, or how much of the beating they were going to show, that was tense. And the Governor with Maggie was a pretty tense situation, too.
Old 11-29-12 | 10:03 AM
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Spoilers are starting to hit the webz. It is going to be a epic finale.
Old 11-29-12 | 11:51 AM
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Spoilers are starting to hit the webz. It is going to be a epic finale.
Thanks for the warning. Probably time to start staying out of these kinds of threads until after Sunday.
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Not for nothing, but I would find that the biggest hurdle to surviving in this world is the will to live.

It's no wonder Andrea opted to stay put with the Governor - who wouldn't?! They're barbequing (beef, could be, since animals are still around), they're having parties, they're sleeping in nice beds, relative safety - all the reasons why we don't jump off cliffs in our world. I can see why Andrea wanted to commit suicide last season.

Okay - say Rick's group can stay safe at the prison? What kind of life is that? I would imagine someone like Rick going bonzo-crazy, strictly from boredom! Even life with the Governor would get boring after awhile - but at least they're eating steak!
Old 11-29-12 | 01:00 PM
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Not for nothing, but I would find that the biggest hurdle to surviving in this world is the will to live.

It's no wonder Andrea opted to stay put with the Governor - who wouldn't?! They're barbequing (beef, could be, since animals are still around), they're having parties, they're sleeping in nice beds, relative safety - all the reasons why we don't jump off cliffs in our world. I can see why Andrea wanted to commit suicide last season.

Okay - say Rick's group can stay safe at the prison? What kind of life is that? I would imagine someone like Rick going bonzo-crazy, strictly from boredom! Even life with the Governor would get boring after awhile - but at least they're eating steak!

You are in a fortress with possbily years worth of supplies and security of a good nights sleep. I would say that would rock
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Re: The Walking Dead -- "When the Dead Come Knocking" -- 11/25/12

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You are in a fortress with possbily years worth of supplies and security of a good nights sleep. I would say that would rock
As easy as it was for Rick and his people to inflitrate the prison, so easy would it be for another group to overtake it. Security, my eye.

It's like saying, "okay, we're going to escape to sea on a cruise ship! No zombies to worry about anymore, because the cruise ship is stocked with all the food and drink imaginable!" But they forgot about fucking pirates!
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Re: The Walking Dead -- "When the Dead Come Knocking" -- 11/25/12

I think the "groups" running around the countryside at this point are probably few and far between.

That said, Woodbury is like the farm. No reason to want to leave, yet all of these viewers think they should. Boggles the mind.
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Originally Posted by Draven
I think the "groups" running around the countryside at this point are probably few and far between.
Why would you think that? I would think there are plenty of groups, all across the world.

It's amazing to me to think about how many "dead people" there were when this zombie-apocaplyse happened! Maybe there were a lot because dead people lying in their graves rose up? Could that account for them all?

When Glenn told Merle how many were in his group, he was giving Merle names of people who were either dead ("Shane") or missing ("Andrea") - of course, he left off the old man and the young girls, so maybe the ratio still comes to 10? Of course, Merle knew them all (sans farmhouse people), since he was once a part of that group.
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I don't imagine we'll ever get any story on how this all went down, but are we to assume this is a worldwide pandemic at this point?

Also, the reason it spread so quickly was not because the dead rose up (no way they'd claw themselves out of a casket locked in a vault under six feet of dirt) but because no one knew what the hell was happening. My guess is one person turned, and instead of getting put down immediately, they attacked someone, and that person turned. If you think of how many people die at any given moment and the folks who may be tending to them, it's no wonder it happened so quickly.

Part of me wonders, though, is if it was some kind of germ warfare that infected everyone and if someone is sitting pretty in Europe or Asia while the US literally cannibalizes itself or if it's a strain of virus or bacteria that made it happen. I can't remember all the details from the CDC portion of the show, so maybe there were answers there.
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Why would you think that? I would think there are plenty of groups, all across the world.
Considering how quickly they've lost people and how big this country is, I don't think many people could have survived as long as this particular group has. And they've only run into a few other people along the way.

That prison had sat there infested for a while and they were the first people to take it back. I'd say that right there is evidence that there aren't many other groups in the area.
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Re: The Walking Dead -- "When the Dead Come Knocking" -- 11/25/12

Originally Posted by Buttmunker
As easy as it was for Rick and his people to inflitrate the prison, so easy would it be for another group to overtake it. Security, my eye.

It's like saying, "okay, we're going to escape to sea on a cruise ship! No zombies to worry about anymore, because the cruise ship is stocked with all the food and drink imaginable!" But they forgot about fucking pirates!
Well I meant from Zombies, not from other people.
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I don't imagine we'll ever get any story on how this all went down, but are we to assume this is a worldwide pandemic at this point?

Also, the reason it spread so quickly was not because the dead rose up (no way they'd claw themselves out of a casket locked in a vault under six feet of dirt) but because no one knew what the hell was happening. My guess is one person turned, and instead of getting put down immediately, they attacked someone, and that person turned. If you think of how many people die at any given moment and the folks who may be tending to them, it's no wonder it happened so quickly.

Part of me wonders, though, is if it was some kind of germ warfare that infected everyone and if someone is sitting pretty in Europe or Asia while the US literally cannibalizes itself or if it's a strain of virus or bacteria that made it happen. I can't remember all the details from the CDC portion of the show, so maybe there were answers there.
I think its worldwide...when they went to the CDC, didn't they talk to scientists from France that were having the same issues?
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Re: The Walking Dead -- "When the Dead Come Knocking" -- 11/25/12

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I don't imagine we'll ever get any story on how this all went down, but are we to assume this is a worldwide pandemic at this point?

Also, the reason it spread so quickly was not because the dead rose up (no way they'd claw themselves out of a casket locked in a vault under six feet of dirt) but because no one knew what the hell was happening. My guess is one person turned, and instead of getting put down immediately, they attacked someone, and that person turned. If you think of how many people die at any given moment and the folks who may be tending to them, it's no wonder it happened so quickly.

Part of me wonders, though, is if it was some kind of germ warfare that infected everyone and if someone is sitting pretty in Europe or Asia while the US literally cannibalizes itself or if it's a strain of virus or bacteria that made it happen. I can't remember all the details from the CDC portion of the show, so maybe there were answers there.
Bear in mind that if even half of mankind turned into walkers at the start of the Zombie Apocalypse, each survivor would need to elimnate only one walker to effectively exterminate them. Given how very simple they are to kill that wouldn't seem all that difficult. The only way the scenario we see in TWD plays out is if somehow something like say 90% of people turned very quickly.
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Re: The Walking Dead -- "When the Dead Come Knocking" -- 11/25/12

Originally Posted by reubs82
I don't imagine we'll ever get any story on how this all went down, but are we to assume this is a worldwide pandemic at this point?

Also, the reason it spread so quickly was not because the dead rose up (no way they'd claw themselves out of a casket locked in a vault under six feet of dirt) but because no one knew what the hell was happening. My guess is one person turned, and instead of getting put down immediately, they attacked someone, and that person turned. If you think of how many people die at any given moment and the folks who may be tending to them, it's no wonder it happened so quickly.

Part of me wonders, though, is if it was some kind of germ warfare that infected everyone and if someone is sitting pretty in Europe or Asia while the US literally cannibalizes itself or if it's a strain of virus or bacteria that made it happen. I can't remember all the details from the CDC portion of the show, so maybe there were answers there.
We don't really know, and we are likely never going to find out. I imagine most everyone on the planet is infected, otherwise any country with nuclear weapons would have vaporized us so we didn't infect the rest of the world.

I always pictured the fast spreading was do to people taking the wounded or bitten to "safe zones" and getting destroyed from within.
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Originally Posted by Navinabob
I always pictured the fast spreading was do to people taking the wounded or bitten to "safe zones" and getting destroyed from within.
Inherently, there is a problem with the amount of zombies in a zombie apocalypse. I think something like 28 Days Later handles it well because one infected person could quickly infect a few people in a group who change quickly and infect a few more, etc.

The Walking Dead zombies take a little while to turn and are of the slow and shambling variety, so the reality is that most people probably could get away. But the WD people don't "know" what zombies are, so they probably spent a lot of time ineffectually fighting back and getting bitten. There are also zombies pouring out of the cities, which explains where the "herds" are coming from.
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Re: The Walking Dead -- "When the Dead Come Knocking" -- 11/25/12

Originally Posted by Draven
The Walking Dead zombies take a little while to turn
Shane took only a few moments to turn. The majority, like you said, take a little while.


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