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Old 08-20-12 | 07:54 AM
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Re: Breaking Bad -- "Buyout" -- 8/19/12

Walt wants to continue cooking meth. I think next episode he moves away to work with those new guys. Everyone gets what they want in the end. The opening scene to the premiere makes a whole lot of sense now.
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Re: Breaking Bad -- "Buyout" -- 8/19/12

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Apparently, there is a song called "Lily of the Valley" and Walt was whistling it during his cook. This show is amazing.
I was hoping I'd find a "Lily of the Valley" on youtube that sounded close to what Walt was whistling. What I found so far is a "Lily of the Valley" sung by Queen and a gospel hymn called "Lily of the Valley".

If Walt's singing the gospel hymn version, that'd be weirder since he as the person who's caused so much destruction is singing a song that starts with the lines
"I have found a friend in Jesus. He's everything to me"
Old 08-20-12 | 08:33 AM
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Re: Breaking Bad -- "Buyout" -- 8/19/12

OK, so the story wasn't made up; I had forgotten about Gray Matter the episode (though it was 4 1/2 years ago), at least the specific details of it. Yet $5M is not $5,000, so what exactly is Walt's motivation? I found it telling when Jesse said, "All your money problems would be solved, you'd get your family back and never have to worry about their saftey again. Isn't that what you want?" I think it was in the beginning, but that's clearly long gone.

Loved the Skylar/Marie talk too.
Old 08-20-12 | 08:37 AM
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Re: Breaking Bad -- "Buyout" -- 8/19/12

What a great episode. Things are unraveling so fast.
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Re: Breaking Bad -- "Buyout" -- 8/19/12

Originally Posted by Matt_
I was hoping I'd find a "Lily of the Valley" on youtube that sounded close to what Walt was whistling. What I found so far is a "Lily of the Valley" sung by Queen and a gospel hymn called "Lily of the Valley".

If Walt's singing the gospel hymn version, that'd be weirder since he as the person who's caused so much destruction is singing a song that starts with the lines
"I have found a friend in Jesus. He's everything to me"
This would be an awesome reveal if true. Have a flash back to Jesse growing up going to church with his parents hearing the lily of the valley song.
Old 08-20-12 | 09:26 AM
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Re: Breaking Bad -- "Buyout" -- 8/19/12

Originally Posted by kantonburg
This would be an awesome reveal if true. Have a flash back to Jesse growing up going to church with his parents hearing the lily of the valley song.
A cooler scenario would be from taking his aunt, that bequeathed him the house, to church.
Old 08-20-12 | 10:51 AM
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Re: Breaking Bad -- "Buyout" -- 8/19/12

Originally Posted by mhg83
Walt wants to continue cooking meth. I think next episode he moves away to work with those new guys. Everyone gets what they want in the end.
I never watch the previews for next week, but this is my guess also.
Old 08-20-12 | 11:32 AM
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Re: Breaking Bad -- "Buyout" -- 8/19/12

Originally Posted by uteotw
OK, so the story wasn't made up; I had forgotten about Gray Matter the episode (though it was 4 1/2 years ago), at least the specific details of it. Yet $5M is not $5,000, so what exactly is Walt's motivation?
$5,000,000 or $5,000 its all the same to Walt. Its just a small fraction of what he could have/should have made. In his eyes, he dose not want to make that same mistake again. Like Walt said, the value of the cooked meth is $300,000,000
Old 08-20-12 | 11:58 AM
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Re: Breaking Bad -- "Buyout" -- 8/19/12

I didn't watch the previews on purpose during the initial airing. Later I was changing channels and saw that few seconds of him tossing the bag and saying he was Heisenberg.

Spoiler:
So you guys think he offers to cook for them, then maybe they get his method of cooking and burn him out of the deal, then he comes back with an M60 and three cans for a day of reckoning with them and possibly other people?
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Breaking Bad: Why We Follow Philanderers & Murderers But Hate Their Wives

One of the bonus pleasures of watching a great show the night it airs is the great conversations on the Internet in the aftermath. It is tremendous fun to go online immediately after the conclusion of Breaking Bad or Mad Men to react to and discuss the episode’s events or to theorize about what happens next. These discussions can provoke new perspectives or reveal complex meanings and connections not obvious on first viewing. The fans of these shows frequently reveal themselves to be intelligent, insightful and willing to engage intense, troubling dramas on intellectual and emotional levels.

Except for when it comes to the protagonists’ wives.

Yep, turns out that while many viewers have no problems following (or even rooting for) philanders, pathological liars, murderers, drug dealers, rapists and all-around toxic human beings, they suddenly lose all sense of compassion or interest when the focus turns to said Walking Garbage’s wife.

Don Draper lies, ignores, cheats on, and emotionally mindfucks with his wife for years? Eh.

Betty Draper contemplates an affair? Worst human being ever.

Walter White wantonly murders people who get in his way? He’s doing it for a good reason!

Skyler White can’t take living with a murderous drug lord and has an affair? How dare she!

It goes without saying that not everyone who watches these shows, or even a particularly large minority, has these feelings. But the ones who do feel this way, screech about it, and so it becomes an impossible subset of the audience to ignore. Reading Twitter and comments sections rapidly becomes wince-inducing as certain members of the audience seem determined to mis-read the show-runner’s intent. Or simply refuse to regard prominent female characters with any degree of empathy.

Worse, even if the emotions are not as strong as I’ve stated; if say, someone simply dislikes the characters but does not truly loathe them, the language they use to express that discontent tends to veer towards either the ignorant or the straight-up misogynistic.

Women aren’t just “annoying” or “unlikeable” which is the terminology that gets slung around about male characters. No, women are “bitches”, “whores”, “sluts” or worse. And if Skyler or Betty or another female character don’t actually do anything morally skewed, the hateful will steer the conversation away from the content of the show or the behavior of the character, and begin running off a checklist of physical faults in the actress.

Why does this disconnect happen? Why are people willing to follow male anti-heroes into the darkest reaches of humanity, while refusing to give women even the slightest bit of moral latitude?
I think it boils down to two major camps, one sort-of understandable, one very much not. Let’s start with “Not”.
http://whatculture.com/tv/breaking-b...heir-wives.php
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Re: Breaking Bad -- "Buyout" -- 8/19/12

Walt is not going to go back to cooking for someone else. Hes wants to remain the kingpin. The only way he gives up that power is if he's forced.
Old 08-20-12 | 12:58 PM
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Re: Breaking Bad -- "Buyout" -- 8/19/12

anyone remember what jesse said at the very end? it all happened fairly quickly and i couldn't make out what he said to get Mike to not pull the trigger.
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Re: Breaking Bad -- "Buyout" -- 8/19/12

He said that Walt had a plan for everybody getting their $5 million and Walt gets to keep the methylene.
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Re: Breaking Bad -- "Buyout" -- 8/19/12

Originally Posted by DthRdrX
Walt is not going to go back to cooking for someone else. Hes wants to remain the kingpin. The only way he gives up that power is if he's forced.
Does anybody think he would?
Old 08-20-12 | 02:15 PM
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Originally Posted by bluetoast
He said that Walt had a plan for everybody getting their $5 million and Walt gets to keep the methylene.
I have a feeling Walt is planning on double dealing both sides. The "new" Walt may see an opportunity at expanding his territory.
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Re: Breaking Bad -- "Buyout" -- 8/19/12

Walt is long gone now, any rational thought of rebuidling his collapsing marriage, securing safety for his family and living a quasi "normal" life as a retired teacher/card counter is not in the remotist part of his brain.

He has clearly gone of the reservation, and now wants to be found out as Master Kingpin by his brother in-law as his final act....

fun to watch the implosion
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Originally Posted by Astrofan
Does anybody think he would?
Uh ...

Walt wants to continue cooking meth. I think next episode he moves away to work with those new guys.
Old 08-20-12 | 02:24 PM
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Originally Posted by mphtrilogy
Walt is long gone now, any rational thought of rebuidling his collapsing marriage, securing safety for his family and living a quasi "normal" life as a retired teacher/card counter is not in the remotist part of his brain.

He has clearly gone of the reservation, and now wants to be found out as Master Kingpin by his brother in-law as his final act....

fun to watch the implosion
I agree 100%. Was thinking of that party scene in season 2 where Walt explained that he was asking "why me" when he got his cancer diagnosis but asked himself the same question when he found out he was in remission.

Walt's purpose in life started to shift from providing for his family into becoming a big time drug player.

IMO, Skylar's action regarding the children is good writing because Walt Jr. was probably the one thing left keeping Walt's "Heisenberg character" from taking over all day, as now Walt shows no attachments from his previous everyday life.
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Re: Breaking Bad -- "Buyout" -- 8/19/12

Originally Posted by DthRdrX
I have a feeling Walt is planning on double dealing both sides. The "new" Walt may see an opportunity at expanding his territory.
Yep, I don't think Walt will go back to cooking for anyone else at this point. He already said he's in the empire business in his mind at least so he wants to be the boss not go back to being someone's "employee". I'm wondering if he's going to work out a way take out the rival group possibly via the ricin he still has in order to take over their territory. Not sure how he's planning to get Jesse and Mike their $5 million each though.
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Re: Breaking Bad -- "Buyout" -- 8/19/12

Originally Posted by DthRdrX
Walt is not going to go back to cooking for someone else. Hes wants to remain the kingpin. The only way he gives up that power is if he's forced.
The guys out west in AZ would be his distributors, nothing more. Remember he has nothing in the way of actually getting the product out there now with Jesse and Mike getting out, and his first attempts to build a network failed miserably and he's mentioned that several times since.

In his mind he would simply be using the AZ guys as distributors, at least the way I see it. He doesn't have the logistics in place to move $100,000,000 in meth as it stands.

That's the way I see it playing out as of now anyway. He keeps his methylamine, Jesse and Mike cash out, and he lets the guys out west make profits off his stuff he cooks for them by appealing to them about the quality.

Seems the only way the 'plan' at the end could work out.
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The guys out west in AZ would be his distributors, nothing more. Remember he has nothing in the way of actually getting the product out there now with Jesse and Mike getting out, and his first attempts to build a network failed miserably and he's mentioned that several times since.

In his mind he would simply be using the AZ guys as distributors, at least the way I see it. He doesn't have the logistics in place to move $100,000,000 in meth as it stands.

That's the way I see it playing out as of now anyway. He keeps his methylamine, Jesse and Mike cash out, and he lets the guys out west make profits off his stuff he cooks for them by appealing to them about the quality.

Seems the only way the 'plan' at the end could work out.
That's possible but I just don't see them revisiting Walt cooking for someone else a third time. (Tuco, Gus) Given his new ego I wouldn't be surprised if Walt requests them to pay him not to expand into their areas ....

There is one thing that I don't fully comprehend so I'll have to watch the episode again.

I remember Mike mentioned to Walt and Jesse that this other crew's territory is in Arizona and if Mike/Jessie sold them the initial 2/3 of their supply it would have no affect on Walt selling his product in New Mexico. Yet, the main guy from the other crew wanted "the blue stuff" off the market.

Why would that crew care about getting rid of the blue meth in New Mexico unless they planned to expand there themselves?
Old 08-20-12 | 03:20 PM
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That is probably what the other crew plans to do eventually.
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Re: Breaking Bad -- "Buyout" -- 8/19/12

I'm disappointed in Mike for not restraining both of Walt's hands...and probably his feet too.
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Re: Breaking Bad -- "Buyout" -- 8/19/12

Originally Posted by anomynous
Killing kid = ok

Writing fuck = bad
Some time in a distant future they will look back on us and think "what the fuck was wrong with them!?"
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Originally Posted by mphtrilogy
Walt is long gone now, any rational thought of rebuidling his collapsing marriage, securing safety for his family and living a quasi "normal" life as a retired teacher/card counter is not in the remotist part of his brain.

He has clearly gone of the reservation, and now wants to be found out as Master Kingpin by his brother in-law as his final act....

fun to watch the implosion
Yet we did see remnants of the old Walt. He showed some compassion for Jesse and let him go home from the job.


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