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mrhan 08-17-12 03:25 PM

SyFy Collection Intervention
 
Anyone see this? The 1st episode was last Tuesday. Looks interesting; gonna try to catch it next week.

http://www.seibertron.com/transforme...vention/25499/

PhantomStranger 08-17-12 04:55 PM

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Yes, I saw it even though I tend to avoid shows like Hoarders due to the repetitive nature of the content. Basically it was an episode of Hoarders but the people collected things appealing to nerds instead of old newspapers or trash.

I'll say this, the marriage between the Asian woman and the Catwoman collector is doomed to fail. She looked intensely unhappy the entire segment and had absolutely no understanding of her husband's behavior. It looked to me like she was trying to hold back her anger most of the episode, for fear of looking like a harpy on national television with the cameras rolling. The husband was practically in tears and I'm not sure the show's interference helped the situation at all.

They had more serious problems going on than a simple Catwoman collection that was out of control.

mrhan 08-29-12 10:05 AM

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I watched this last night and the guy's comic book collection didn't impress me at all. Sure, he had 30,000 books but to me it was worthless but that's just my opinion. He didn't own a single silver age or golden age book. Wouldn't a true collector want those comics in his collection? Obviously, he likes to read them as we all do but there has to be more than that. But like I said that's just my opinion.

Navinabob 08-29-12 12:05 PM

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Originally Posted by mrhan (Post 11364033)
I watched this last night and the guy's comic book collection didn't impress me at all. Sure, he had 30,000 books but to me it was worthless but that's just my opinion. He didn't own a single silver age or golden age book. Wouldn't a true collector want those comics in his collection? Obviously, he likes to read them as we all do but there has to be more than that. But like I said that's just my opinion.

To me that makes him more of a "hoarder" then a "collector" and thus deserves an intervention. A collector tackles a hobby with some sense of intelligence and planning.

boredsilly 08-29-12 12:28 PM

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I haven't seen the ep yet, but I feel like collecting things that are valuable, but meaningless to you, is just as bad as collecting a lot of worthless stuff. I'm no collector, but silver and golden age books mean nothing to me, whereas "worthless" books do.

SethDLH 08-29-12 02:42 PM

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I like the show for the reason that I enjoy looking at collections of this stuff but the host pisses me off. I'm less than 10 minutes in to this new episode and she's trying to tell the guy with 30k books what to collect. If he doesn't like or want golden and silver age comics than piss off and don't tell him to collect them. How about having him collect TPBs instead of individual issues to cut down on the boxes. It doesn't have to be a collection of the oldest and most valuable for someone to love it.

yoshimi 08-29-12 03:29 PM

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I wonder if you were to go into the closets of the wives of some of these guys if they have 3000 pairs of shoes?

madcougar 08-29-12 03:41 PM

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Elyse Luray is a total MILF. I watch History Detectives just to watch her. She's much more glammed up in this.

But as someone said earlier, this is Horders For Nerds. With the exception of the guy with the Transformer collection, the other three guys needed to get a divorce, not pare down their collections.

boredsilly 08-29-12 04:40 PM

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I totally disagree. Do you think these collectors are the picture of health? Not that I think collecting isn't a fine thing to do. If you've got the means and the space for it, go to town. But so many of the people showcased on this show seem to have issues, and I don't think any of the wives or husbands have been unreasonable.

Transformer guy seems to be sitting on a goldmine. But he needs to fall back with this "You have to agree to take care of it" nonsense. I give you money, I can burn that thing if I want son! -wink-

I would be interested in what books comic book guy was selling. $500 for 2000 modern (80s to today) books is not a bad deal at all when you factor in not having to ship things or having to piece out a collection over time. He could probably get a bit more for the books he was selling, but it would also take a shit load more of work.

devilshalo 08-29-12 07:05 PM

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Originally Posted by boredsilly (Post 11364227)
I haven't seen the ep yet, but I feel like collecting things that are valuable, but meaningless to you, is just as bad as collecting a lot of worthless stuff. I'm no collector, but silver and golden age books mean nothing to me, whereas "worthless" books do.

Would you like to buy all of my worthless comic books? While I don't have 30,000 of them, 9 long boxes should keep you occupied. :) I need to catch that episode to see what he sold.

boredsilly 08-29-12 08:40 PM

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Heh, no thank you. I meant the books that I do care about would be deemed "worthless" by this shows appraiser, but they hold value for me more so than key books do. But when I say "books" I'm really talking about stories, because I don't own any single issue comics any more.

But this guy was talking about Starman, John Byrne comics, Death in the Family, pretty much every comic every one who has been collection comics since the 80s has.

PhantomStranger 08-30-12 12:50 AM

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I didn't understand why the guy with the Bronze Age comics collection did not consider moving the comics to a storage facility instead of trying to sell them. The comics were largely worthless, as seen by the fair offer he got from the comics store, and he treated them like his babies. His wife kept repeating wanting the living room back and not much else.

The show's idea to trade the issues for key Silver Age issues wasn't a very thoughtful solution for that collector. He showed little interest in them and I completely understand. While l like reading Silver Age stuff in Archive formats and trades, I would have no interest in collecting individual issues at all.

Evan Meadow 08-30-12 06:20 AM

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Originally Posted by Navinabob (Post 11364198)
To me that makes him more of a "hoarder" then a "collector" and thus deserves an intervention. A collector tackles a hobby with some sense of intelligence and planning.

The fact that he spoke passionately about getting that last issue of Quasar and how much it meant to him because of the memory I was just shaking my head going "Really? Over the last issue of Quasar?"

But yeah his whole "I don't care much for Silver Age" really threw me for a loop.

For pete's sake, I bought a batch of estate comics off of Ebay a few months ago just because when I was looking at the pictures, I noticed he had a copy of JLA #9 (1963) hidden among the stuff. Went after that right then and there.

Evan Meadow 08-30-12 06:22 AM

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Originally Posted by devilshalo (Post 11364659)
Would you like to buy all of my worthless comic books? While I don't have 30,000 of them, 9 long boxes should keep you occupied. :) I need to catch that episode to see what he sold.

We don't know specifically what he sold. They name checked the usuals, Batman, Avengers, Quasar....

But we had no idea how far back is collection went. We just know it goes back as far as childhood, so 70's/80's at the earliest.

Evan Meadow 08-30-12 06:24 AM

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Originally Posted by PhantomStranger (Post 11364941)
I didn't understand why the guy with the Bronze Age comics collection did not consider moving the comics to a storage facility instead of trying to sell them. The comics were largely worthless, as seen by the fair offer he got from the comics store, and he treated them like his babies. His wife kept repeating wanting the living room back and not much else.

The show's idea to trade the issues for key Silver Age issues wasn't a very thoughtful solution for that collector. He showed little interest in them and I completely understand. While l like reading Silver Age stuff in Archive formats and trades, I would have no interest in collecting individual issues at all.

I still love collecting the individual issues, no matter how far back they go. But you're right, thanks to the Archives, I can read them in that format and leave the comics alone in whatever condition I bought them in and never open them so they keep their current condition. But always have reading copies around.

DarthVong 08-30-12 06:44 AM

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SethDLH 08-30-12 08:54 AM

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Originally Posted by PhantomStranger (Post 11364941)
I didn't understand why the guy with the Bronze Age comics collection did not consider moving the comics to a storage facility instead of trying to sell them. The comics were largely worthless, as seen by the fair offer he got from the comics store, and he treated them like his babies. His wife kept repeating wanting the living room back and not much else.

The show's idea to trade the issues for key Silver Age issues wasn't a very thoughtful solution for that collector. He showed little interest in them and I completely understand. While l like reading Silver Age stuff in Archive formats and trades, I would have no interest in collecting individual issues at all.

Exactly. There was a time she even told him to keep a certain book because of how much it meant to him. I don't see why he has to collect certain comics for people to consider it a collection. A well organized collection of 80s/90s comics kept in good condition is no different than a collection of golden age books aside from the monetary value. We aren't talking about a a guy who is sitting on his ass in a LaZBoy while trash piles up around him and bugs over take the house. The problem here wasn't the collection, it was just living space. There were plenty of solutions other than "your collection is wrong, collect this instead"

starseed1981 08-30-12 09:03 AM

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Yeah, my issue with the show is that personal collections are personal. You don't need a consultant to come in an tell you what is valuable and what you should collect. Pretty much every episode involves people needing more space, not hoarders.

islandclaws 08-30-12 11:44 AM

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Is this chick really that knowledgeable? Hearing her spout off factoids on comics and Transformers sounded more like someone who just did a lot of cramming, and less like someone who really knows their stuff. A collector can see right through that.

The comic book guy's fiancee was a bit of a bitch - I mean, come on, you knew what you were getting into when you picked him, right? - but she seemed to ease up later on and give him some breathing room. I'm sure he's having a hard time choosing between not getting laid for 15 years again, or keeping his hot-as-I'm-gonna get lady. Good call on his part. He should buy an iPad and just download his books.

When she walked into Tranformers guy's place, I kept thinking that was the hottest chick those walls have ever seen that wasn't on a computer.

PhantomStranger 08-30-12 12:31 PM

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Originally Posted by Evan Meadow (Post 11365043)
The fact that he spoke passionately about getting that last issue of Quasar and how much it meant to him because of the memory I was just shaking my head going "Really? Over the last issue of Quasar?"

But yeah his whole "I don't care much for Silver Age" really threw me for a loop.

Someone would have to kill me before I ever parted with my original copy of Secret Origins #10 (release date: 1987) that I bought off the rack. It's not worth much in terms of monetary value but is still one of my favorite issues out of a collection that once included over 10,000 issues. Quasar was actually a solid series. Silver Age and Golden Age issues do nothing for me (one exception: original Captain Marvel and Whiz issues), even though I realize they are the only comics worth investing in.

The Transformers collector had an obvious psychological problem with his collection and needs some sort of outside intervention to get his life in order. The comic book guy simply needed the number of a good storage facility or move into a house with a basement.

dfmaverick2 08-30-12 12:34 PM

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Elyse is former Head of Special Collections at Christie's, so I would gather that she knows a little but probably not in huge depth unless she's personally dealt with an item.

Working for Christie's, I now see why she tends to look more at focusing the collections on monetary value rather than paring it down by focusing more upon personal value to the collector. For example, trying to steer the comic book collector toward Golden/Silver Age because they are valuable when he doesn't care much about those eras.

JeffTheAlpaca 08-30-12 04:55 PM

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I wonder if they will do a episode on DVD collectors?

The first show was the best with the lady who collected Star Wars and when she had to sell one of her loose Ewok figures she cried as if she lost a child lol.


Fast forwarded the episode with the Barbie collector.

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dex14 08-30-12 05:05 PM

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DVDs would be interesting. But there really is no value in it.

Dragon Tattoo 08-30-12 06:03 PM

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Originally Posted by boredsilly (Post 11364526)
I don't think any of the wives or husbands have been unreasonable.

Really? Even the total **** married to the Catwoman guy? That's a divorce waiting to happen, whether he collects Catwoman shit or not.

SethDLH 08-30-12 10:10 PM

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Originally Posted by Dragon Tattoo (Post 11365855)
Really? Even the total **** married to the Catwoman guy? That's a divorce waiting to happen, whether he collects Catwoman shit or not.

Yea, I don't think they painted her in any false light because she's really been the only totally cold hearted bitch. She seems like just a purely awful person to be around

Evan Meadow 08-31-12 05:10 AM

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Originally Posted by PhantomStranger (Post 11365428)
Someone would have to kill me before I ever parted with my original copy of Secret Origins #10 (release date: 1987) that I bought off the rack. It's not worth much in terms of monetary value but is still one of my favorite issues out of a collection that once included over 10,000 issues. Quasar was actually a solid series. Silver Age and Golden Age issues do nothing for me (one exception: original Captain Marvel and Whiz issues), even though I realize they are the only comics worth investing in.

Don't misunderstand, I'm not so much knocking how he feels over his comic, I'm just knocking him over his choice of a comic to react to.

And as for your favorite copy of Secret Origins? LOL I wonder what you think of what they've done to Phantom Stranger recently in light of that being your fave issue. And it is a good one. I've got the complete run of Secret Origins. Great stuff.

JeffTheAlpaca 08-31-12 05:10 AM

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Travel Channel has a show called Toy Hunter which is kind of similar to Collector Intervention.

I bet with all they money they have to buy comics, toys, etc they could have bought a new Big screen TV or a car with that money.

They have these great collections but live in average or crappy homes.


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boredsilly 08-31-12 06:14 AM

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Originally Posted by Dragon Tattoo (Post 11365855)
Really? Even the total **** married to the Catwoman guy? That's a divorce waiting to happen, whether he collects Catwoman shit or not.

Seriously? I get that she came off as cold in the episode, but the woman said that she and her husband were in major debt and couldn't pay they're bills. She's a "****" because she was at her wits end because she's with a guy who would rather buy some Catwoman barbies than make sure their finances are in order? She said he's bought Catwoman stuff before paying the mortgage before. That's crazy. Maybe I missed something, but depending on what kind of debt they're in, that shit can be debilitating, and it would only be heightened if you see some of your limited finances going to buy superfluous stuff -- in this case Catwoman collectibles.

Furthermore, Catwoman guy kept his collection secret until after they were engaged, and told her that he would "get it under control" (whatever that means) when they got married, and clearly didn't. It would be easier to paint a better picture if we knew more (who's the bread winner, who makes what, does he keep buying catwoman stuff at a good clip or is it just a trickle, how did they get in debt -- was it him or her, are they in debt because of Catwoman?, etc). But I'm not going to just write this woman off as a bitch because she's trying to separate a boy from his toys.

I agree the wife could have been more understanding, but the collector dude was a huge part of the problem. I would be interested to see if you would be as dismissive if the roles were reversed and the wife had a bunch of shoes in the garage (as well as continuing to buy them), and the husband was at his limit because they were in debt and couldn't keep up with their bills.

One more thing about Catwoman guy. His case was really simple, because he HAD THE SPACE to display his stuff. Clear out that garage, and put some shelves in and create a little mini-museum. I think a bit problem that people who live with collectors have (and that I agree with) is that it's pointless to buy things to just have them sit in boxes. At least if a person has their collection setup in a way were it can be enjoyed it is easier to understand for non-collectors.

I think the best example of this was the Barbie woman. That case of Barbies she had setup showed a respect for the toys she had. If that was all she had, she would have been fine. The problem came when she had all that extra shit shoved in closets and the garage, taking up her husband's and son's spaces.

boredsilly 08-31-12 06:35 AM

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Originally Posted by JeffTheAlpaca (Post 11366303)
Travel Channel has a show called Toy Hunter which is kind of similar to Collector Intervention.

I tried watching that, but that host got on my nerves. I know he has to do it for TV, but he does this thing where he's explaining what the toy he found was to the person who actually owns the thing and for some reason that put me off big time. It's not that much different from Pawn Stars, but here I just couldn't stand it. Especially when he was explaining something about a Super Powers Darkseid vehicle, but kept pronouncing it Dark-seed.

JeffTheAlpaca 08-31-12 03:08 PM

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Yes lol

I would not sell anything to Toy Hunter when he wants to rip you off and then sell it for $200 more at a auction.

Jason 08-31-12 03:52 PM

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Originally Posted by PhantomStranger (Post 11350643)
Basically it was an episode of Hoarders but the people collected things appealing to nerds instead of old newspapers or trash.

So siffee has devolved to the point where they're running a show where we all point and laugh and people who love science fiction?

Screw them. They could start airing the Caprica Six Fellatio Hour and I still won't watch anything else on that channel again.

madcougar 08-31-12 07:54 PM

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Originally Posted by DarthVong (Post 11365058)

That's what I'M saying!

Evan Meadow 09-01-12 04:40 AM

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Originally Posted by boredsilly (Post 11366323)
I tried watching that, but that host got on my nerves. I know he has to do it for TV, but he does this thing where he's explaining what the toy he found was to the person who actually owns the thing and for some reason that put me off big time. It's not that much different from Pawn Stars, but here I just couldn't stand it. Especially when he was explaining something about a Super Powers Darkseid vehicle, but kept pronouncing it Dark-seed.

That's what I kept screaming at the TV: ITS NOT DARK-SEED!

Its a fun show for a half hour.

Evan Meadow 09-01-12 04:41 AM

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Originally Posted by JeffTheAlpaca (Post 11366915)
Yes lol

I would not sell anything to Toy Hunter when he wants to rip you off and then sell it for $200 more at a auction.

That's his job. Its the same thing with comic store owners. You go in there with your stuff to sell, their job is to pay the least amount of money. If they sold it for what it is worth, you get no profit.

The best you can do is be knowledgable about what the items are actually worth ahead of time yourself so you can work out as fair a deal for both of you as possible so know one feels ripped off.

Gizmo 09-01-12 01:06 PM

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Originally Posted by JeffTheAlpaca (Post 11366915)
Yes lol

I would not sell anything to Toy Hunter when he wants to rip you off and then sell it for $200 more at a auction.

Yeah, people work for free. Rent is free. Electricty is free. He just wants to make sure you get 100% of what the item is worth selling at auction but he can pay all the fees associated with it.

Mike86 09-01-12 01:38 PM

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I've been watching this series and I think it's been okay so far. It seems like a lot of the collectors on the show are just really bad at organizing their things or don't have enough space for them. Also a lot of them just seem to buy anything that has a certain character/brand attached, which is fine to an extent but you've got to know limits and not buy items just to buy them in my opinion at least. I think the people with the biggest issues were the Catwoman and Transformers collectors. The Barbie collector was pretty bad too seeing as she was taking over a large chunk of the home with her collection (including both of her sons closets).


Originally Posted by JeffTheAlpaca (Post 11366303)
Travel Channel has a show called Toy Hunter which is kind of similar to Collector Intervention.

I bet with all they money they have to buy comics, toys, etc they could have bought a new Big screen TV or a car with that money.

They have these great collections but live in average or crappy homes.

Toy Hunter is a pretty interesting show despite the host being kind of annoying. It's pretty cool to see all the nice vintage items he finds. It basically reminds me of American Pickers but focusing on only toys.

SethDLH 09-04-12 10:35 PM

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Anyone watch tonight's episode? The guy with all of the posters and books has a ton of stuff that is right up my alley. Seeing his collection was awesome. It made me seriously angry for him when he did the expo of his stuff and someone hung a poster in direct sunlight though. That's just plain stupid. It seems like he'll be able to get his collection under control without having to get rid of his favorite pieces or really bringing down the significance of it.

The other guy had some really cool stuff with the Hot Toys pieces. Good for him for getting rid of his low dollar items and clearing out the space for his girl to move in.

The new therapist angle is really annoying though. I'm pretty sure they haven't brought one in before this, have they?

Mike86 09-05-12 12:41 AM

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Sean the toy guy seems like a pretty cool person. I've been watching his reviews on Youtube for a while and they're pretty entertaining. The other guy on tonight's episode had a ton of cool stuff but it was just so unorganized and he just had way too much. I wonder if he's actually made progress towards getting his house less cluttered or not.

boredsilly 09-05-12 01:33 PM

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I'm not a big fan of kitsch, but I would LOVE to walk through Howie's house and be able to pick 10 things to have. So many cool things in that collection. It was a mess, but the stuff that was there was really neat.

It's interesting seeing Sean on this show. I've seen his videos online before, and he even has a series called "Project Display" that he started earlier this year dealing with him getting his collection organized. I wonder if this was filmed before that, or if he made project display after filming of this show.

http://www.youtube.com/user/SEANxLON...roject+display

bigluelok 09-05-12 03:19 PM

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the catwoman collectors wife is a bitch


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