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I don't think his choice is all that surprising. Especially when you look at his options.

Betray the Starks: Join his family and perhaps get himself a wife and eventually control of the Iron Islands down the road.

Betray his family: Return to Robb and tell him "Yeah my dad turned down your offer, and one more thing, hes also going to lay siege to the north while your fighting the Lannisters. But the good news is I'm still loyal to you guys, so theres that."

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Re: Game of Thrones -- "What Is Dead May Never Die" -- 4/15/12
 

I don't think Theon had a lot of confidence that he would even be heir to the Iron Islands after his father basically made Yara an Admiral over his Captain status. The boy had a rude awakening that has pushed him hard down the path of his ancestors and the baptism under the Drowned God's religion showed that heavily.

I doubt it'll be enough to change Balon's mind.

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There is more than one and they both fit the bill.

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True, but at least he has hope that he can regain the favor of his father. He is still the lone male heir. Worse case scenario hes 2nd in line. With the Starks hes never going to be more than what he is now.

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If you find yourself getting confused by the various religions as they begin to play a larger role in the show, HBO just uploaded this:

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I haven't read the second book yet but I have read up on the religions in the books. I'm surprised we didn't see them drown Theon and bring him back to life. That's part of their religions creed: "What is dead may never die, but rises again, harder and stronger." Do they only do that with newborns?

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I am a book reader and I hate Dany and her storyline. I don't hate TV Dany nearly as much as Book Dany, but that's because Emilia Clarke is a really good actress.

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poor Arya .... she had to pick the boy with the golden locks

Re: Game of Thrones -- "What Is Dead May Never Die" -- 4/15/12
 

What?

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I'm guessing he is suggesting that she should have picked someone with brown hair.

But are we to know that the guards know this? They were just looking for the bullhorn helmet.

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Oh, ok. Yeah, all they knew about Gendry, besides his name, is that he had a bull's head helmet.

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That was my memory as well, Mordred, but GRRM in that video did say that Theon was baptized/drowned that way when he was younger so this was I guess just a symbolic gesture instead of a man's choice? Then again, if he died once before, he couldn't die again as indicated by the religion's words.

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Ratings are steady:

http://www.hollywoodreporter.com/liv...ratings-312544

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damn, what a bunch of goofs
how could they have not at least been informed of the kids damn hair color

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Because then they would know about Joffrey, Myrcella, and Tommen. Or at least those with golden locks would begin to give credence to the "false" claims by putting emphasis on something as trivial as hair color.

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I think they were just trying to keep it on the Downlow.

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it wasn't like TMZ was going to be broadcasting throughout the kingdom that Joffrey had a thing against brown hair boys after the slaughter of the bastard babies

seems like when you have little to go by when searching for someone (name and that he carries a bull's head helmet) you might want to give all the descriptive info you do have at your disposal

If I was searching for Roz I'd say be on the lookout for the redhead whore with big boobies

oh well ... no biggie, just sayin'

Re: Game of Thrones -- "What Is Dead May Never Die" -- 4/15/12
 

Go back and watch the scene where they interrogate Gendry's former master by pushing his head over the hot coals. All he gives them is a name and a unique item.

If they knew about hair color, we weren't shown that.

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According to that video, he had already had it done when he was new born. I guess to relate it to Christianity, the drowning is like baptism, and what was shown in the episode is more like confirmation.

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I read somewhere, perhaps in EW, that GoT real strength in ratings comes from people who watch through on OnDemand or DVR. That helped its audience grow about 76% from the first ep. to the season finale. That's what I like about cable series, they can start out weak, but because their numbers are judged more on how many actual viewers they have as opposed to who views them and how many do so live like a major network, they don't get axed immediately if they start slow or don't deliver gangbuster ratings.

In terms of Theon, I feel for him.

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Yoren :(

I actually enjoy Dany's story. Surprised to see so much hate.

Re: Game of Thrones -- "What Is Dead May Never Die" -- 4/15/12
 

I don't hate dany's story, it is just so slow in parts.

Re: Game of Thrones -- "What Is Dead May Never Die" -- 4/15/12
 

Just a general question from someone who hasn't read the books: Did the first season cover only the first book?
There are 6 books, correct? So can we assume that there will be 6 seasons, one for each book?

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A little more than book one, but not much. 5 books currently with 7-8 total planned. Books may start to be split across seasons as early as next year.