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actionjackson29 04-16-12 06:03 AM

Re: Game of Thrones -- "What Is Dead May Never Die" -- 4/15/12
 
Sorry if I spoiled anything thought I was just clarifying what was already mentioned in the episode.

Superman07 04-16-12 06:57 AM

Re: Game of Thrones -- "What Is Dead May Never Die" -- 4/15/12
 
Assholes! They killed Yoren. :(

covenant 04-16-12 08:24 AM

Re: Game of Thrones -- "What Is Dead May Never Die" -- 4/15/12
 

Originally Posted by sven (Post 11191046)
It'll be interesting to see if they can actually make such a worthless character likeable.

Worthless character? There's only one and her name is Dany.

MikahC 04-16-12 09:08 AM

Re: Game of Thrones -- "What Is Dead May Never Die" -- 4/15/12
 
What's with the hate boner for Dany? Are people who hate her non-book readers who don't yet know how she ties into the story or what? I haven't read the books, but it's obvious to me she's a major player. In fact, she's the only one I can recall right now would be define as "supernatural". The actress also does fine IMO. So what is it?

KirstenS 04-16-12 09:19 AM

Re: Game of Thrones -- "What Is Dead May Never Die" -- 4/15/12
 
She's incredibly boring?

beesonosu 04-16-12 09:25 AM

Re: Game of Thrones -- "What Is Dead May Never Die" -- 4/15/12
 
I concur, Mikah. I haven't read the books yet either, but I've enjoyed the whole Targaryen storyline so far. Granted, I had hoped Khal Drogo was going to play a larger role, but I actually see the purposefulness of having her be a "Moses"-type figure in exodus (to a loose degree). They might not be the most riveting scenes, but it is something different.

fumanstan 04-16-12 09:32 AM

Re: Game of Thrones -- "What Is Dead May Never Die" -- 4/15/12
 
I liked Daenerys last season, but she hasn't done much yet this season given the finale last year ended with her. Hope she does something interesting soon besides just... walk.

*Haven't read the books, no need to spoiler or allude to anything. :)

superdeluxe 04-16-12 09:48 AM

Re: Game of Thrones -- "What Is Dead May Never Die" -- 4/15/12
 
Loved the episode. Finally see Margery and Brienne. Tyrion's scheming was great. Loved Margery letting Renly in that she knows the secret and she was okay with it (suggesting that Loras comes and helps, or she gives up the arse to Renley). Margery is all about business, 'I'll give you a heir, I know this is just all a business anyways lol.

Loved how Brienne body slammed Loras.

pinata242 04-16-12 09:54 AM

Re: Game of Thrones -- "What Is Dead May Never Die" -- 4/15/12
 
Brienne looked incredible. They really nailed that casting and after reading this interview with Gwendoline Christie it seems more like destiny than luck: http://www.sfx.co.uk/2012/04/11/game...tie-interview/

KirstenS 04-16-12 09:59 AM

Re: Game of Thrones -- "What Is Dead May Never Die" -- 4/15/12
 
I think most of the Dany haters, such as myself, are book readers. I've always found her chapters hard to slog through. Nice to see that the writers have done a good job of making her storyline interesting on the show for non-book readers.

superdeluxe 04-16-12 10:02 AM

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Originally Posted by KirstenS (Post 11191942)
I think most of the Dany haters, such as myself, are book readers. I've always found her chapters hard to slog through. Nice to see that the writers have done a good job of making her storyline interesting on the show for non-book readers.

I'm a book reader and they make her more likable on the TV show.

Hiro11 04-16-12 10:03 AM

Re: Game of Thrones -- "What Is Dead May Never Die" -- 4/15/12
 
I liked this episode better than last week's. The plotlines are gathering steam a bit and things moved forward. One general note: there seems to be more scenes this year that are not in the book. I think the changes tighten things up a bit and have been successful in either providing additional motivations for character's actions or simplifying overly complex plot points. Also, it has to be said that the casting in this show continues to be peerless and one of its greatest strengths.

Things I particularly liked this week:
- The casting of Brienne. Spot on perfect for one of my favorite characters. She just towers over Lady Stark in their scene together.
- Tyrion continues to clean house. The arrest of Pycelle was awesome.
- The change in Margaery Tyrell's character vs. the book. Making her more mature and wise is a really good idea.
- Yoren and Arya had a nice moment talking about his past. Very well acted monologue.
- Amory Lorch. Ick, I effing hate that guy. The brutality of the attack on the Black Watch was pitch perfect.
- The explanation of Theon's motivations. His actions make a bit more sense than they do in the book (to me). This becomes important heading forward.

Lots going to happen next weeking judging by the preview. Can't wait.

Shady12 04-16-12 10:42 AM

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Originally Posted by Astrofan (Post 11191582)
Anybody who has anything to say bad about this series has to come through me in a mêlée. We are so fortunate to have such a magnificent production of this well-loved series. I'd say tonight episode ranked in the top 3 of both seasons so far. Dinklage is still tearing it up, but truly incredible casting all around. Brienne is a tower of strength. Great to see Natalie Dormer from the Tudors. The kids continue to be great and did Sophie Turner shoot up in height for what? She has great stance and posterior for a role that suggests she was trained, unlike Arya (who never excepted it) to be regal.

Sunday nights--The Borgias, Mad Men and this, it doesn't get better.

This was probably my favorite episode so far. Sophie Turner has been really tall since the show started. I've never seen Natalie Dormer in anything else, but I think her face is kind of gross. The Brienne casting is awesome though.

superdeluxe 04-16-12 10:43 AM

Re: Game of Thrones -- "What Is Dead May Never Die" -- 4/15/12
 

Originally Posted by Shady12 (Post 11191986)
This was probably my favorite episode so far. Sophie Turner has been really tall since the show started. I've never seen Natalie Dormer in anything else, but I think her face is kind of gross. The Brienne casting is awesome though.

her face is gross? Is it the lip thing that you dislike?

superfro 04-16-12 10:57 AM

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Originally Posted by Shady12 (Post 11191986)
I've never seen Natalie Dormer in anything else, but I think her face is kind of gross.

You looked at her face.

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pinata242 04-16-12 11:23 AM

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Shady12 04-16-12 11:30 AM

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Originally Posted by superdeluxe (Post 11191987)
her face is gross? Is it the lip thing that you dislike?

Partly. And she has squinty eyes spread really far apart. Sort of looks like an alien.

covenant 04-16-12 11:37 AM

Re: Game of Thrones -- "What Is Dead May Never Die" -- 4/15/12
 

Originally Posted by KirstenS (Post 11191942)
I think most of the Dany haters, such as myself, are book readers. I've always found her chapters hard to slog through. Nice to see that the writers have done a good job of making her storyline interesting on the show for non-book readers.


Originally Posted by superdeluxe (Post 11191946)
I'm a book reader and they make her more likable on the TV show.

Exactly. I enjoyed Dany more in the first book than in any of the others. And after awhile I just started skimming her chapters to make sure I wasn't missing anything crucial. I wasn't.

Dr. DVD 04-16-12 12:16 PM

Re: Game of Thrones -- "What Is Dead May Never Die" -- 4/15/12
 

Originally Posted by Tommy Ceez (Post 11191540)
Dr DVD

Now THAT is a spoiler

Sorry, actionjackson needs he spoiler tags.

What exactly is a spoiler? I didn't name anything, just confirmed something.

Dr. DVD 04-16-12 12:20 PM

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Originally Posted by covenant (Post 11192055)
Exactly. I enjoyed Dany more in the first book than in any of the others. And after awhile I just started skimming her chapters to make sure I wasn't missing anything crucial. I wasn't.


Being a book reader as well, the series does a much better job of conveying that Dany is probably the closest thing to a full-on good person of those vying for power.

pinata242 04-16-12 12:22 PM

Re: Game of Thrones -- "What Is Dead May Never Die" -- 4/15/12
 

Originally Posted by Dr. DVD (Post 11192119)
What exactly is a spoiler? I didn't name anything, just confirmed something.

He edited his post to move the comment from your post to actionjackson's post which has since been corrected.

fumanstan 04-16-12 12:25 PM

Re: Game of Thrones -- "What Is Dead May Never Die" -- 4/15/12
 

Originally Posted by Shady12 (Post 11192047)
Partly. And she has squinty eyes spread really far apart. Sort of looks like an alien.

Yeah, I thought she looked weird in Captain America too and someone rushed to her defense.

Tommy Ceez 04-16-12 12:29 PM

Re: Game of Thrones -- "What Is Dead May Never Die" -- 4/15/12
 

Originally Posted by Dr. DVD (Post 11192119)
What exactly is a spoiler? I didn't name anything, just confirmed something.

I misread the names...you didn't spoil anything

Tommy Ceez 04-16-12 12:31 PM

Re: Game of Thrones -- "What Is Dead May Never Die" -- 4/15/12
 

Originally Posted by Dr. DVD (Post 11192124)
Being a book reader as well, the series does a much better job of conveying that Dany is probably the closest thing to a full-on good person of those vying for power.

I think her book problem is that we all become super invested in the machinations of power in Westeros, and Dany's chapters drag us half way around the world to a place where Westerosi politics are meaningless.

superdeluxe 04-16-12 12:36 PM

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Originally Posted by fumanstan (Post 11192133)
Yeah, I thought she looked weird in Captain America too and someone rushed to her defense.

She is the hottest alien I have ever seen.

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