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creekdipper 06-03-12 01:34 AM

Re: Hatfields and McCoys trailer with Kevin Costner and Bill Paxton
 

Originally Posted by Shannon Nutt (Post 11254909)
Good article about the accuracy of the mini-series:

http://blogs.wsj.com/speakeasy/2012/...ogle_news_blog

Thanks. Good stuff, and makes me want to see the rest of her assessment since she refers to waiting to see how some events will be handled in "upcoming episodes".

As usual, it confirms that Hollywood can't resist the temptation to change things to make a 'better story' (proving the old adage about when the facts don't agree with the legend, print the legend). The bad thing is that most modern viewers are more savvy about details and have seen so many melodramatic renditions that their 'b.s. radar' goes off when some things seem out of kilter. The article's author pointed out that there were no saloons, etc. in the Matewan area (funny how the miniseries culture seems more advanced in some ways than what is depicted in "Justifed"). She also confirmed that the Roseanne-Johnse story was blown way out of proportion...obviously the producers wanted to add as much romantic interest & sex as possible to juice the ratings and fill time (and maybe attract a bit younger audience), but seeing the whining of the younger characters threw off the pacing IMHO.

I do have to wonder a bit if the idea of Randall as somewhat of a religious fanatic as opposed to "pagan" Anse (who was later baptized as shown in the series) was over-dramatized, especially when Ran'l seems to abandon his faith and rail against God in the last installment. One could see that coming, and it seemed like typical Hollywood view of religion and God-bashing. The author said her research supports the idea that Anse was more reasonable in many ways than Randall, but she also feels that the driving force of the feud was more about economic competition and jealousies than personal affronts to "honor" or Civil War grievances. Showing Randall going off the rails late in life (and the afore-mentioned scripted end) as opposed to the historical man who ran a ferry business after the feud ended also supports the article author's views that the producers kind of picked themes they wanted to show and then portrayed events in ways that would demonstrate those themes (even if the facts were changed or fudged).

Overall, it's a step in the right direction for seeing more drama rather than reality tv and for more historically-BASED stories that get people searching for the real stories, so that's a good thing. Just wish they would try to avoid inventing stuff that never happened when the true story is plenty interesting. I don't know about rewatchablity, but it was worth three nights (two would have been better, though).

And I caught a few moments of a rerun episode and still had a hard time recognizing Tom Berenger.

Dr. DVD 06-03-12 04:59 PM

Re: Hatfields and McCoys trailer with Kevin Costner and Bill Paxton
 
I wonder how History channel will follow a massive success like this? If nothing else, I think it will encourage more of getting big name Hollywood actors to star in TV made movies.

Some subjects that I think might work:

-Al Capone bio-pic

-Early days of the KKK

-Stock Car racing-this could actually build somewhat on the time period where H&M left off, as what is now a huge spectator sport began as a way to quickly transport moonshine. I think this would have a lot of appeal.

superdeluxe 06-03-12 05:01 PM

Re: Hatfields and McCoys trailer with Kevin Costner and Bill Paxton
 

Originally Posted by Dr. DVD (Post 11257162)
I wonder how History channel will follow a massive success like this? If nothing else, I think it will encourage more of getting big name Hollywood actors to star in TV made movies.

Some subjects that I think might work:

-Al Capone bio-pic

-Early days of the KKK

-Stock Car racing-this could actually build somewhat on the time period where H&M left off, as what is now a huge spectator sport began as a way to quickly transport moonshine. I think this would have a lot of appeal.


Lewis and Clark would be good..but I think HBO is working on one.

Dr. DVD 06-03-12 05:04 PM

Re: Hatfields and McCoys trailer with Kevin Costner and Bill Paxton
 

Originally Posted by superdeluxe (Post 11257164)
Lewis and Clark would be good..but I think HBO is working on one.

They've been "working on" one for a while , if it's the one that was being produced by Brad Pitt and Edward Norton.

superdeluxe 06-03-12 05:15 PM

Re: Hatfields and McCoys trailer with Kevin Costner and Bill Paxton
 

Originally Posted by Dr. DVD (Post 11257166)
They've been "working on" one for a while , if it's the one that was being produced by Brad Pitt and Edward Norton.

Looks like Ed Norton worked on it exclusively back in 2010

Goldberg74 06-05-12 11:07 PM

Re: Hatfields and McCoys trailer with Kevin Costner and Bill Paxton
 
... starting this tonight.

Giles 06-06-12 06:17 PM

Re: Hatfields and McCoys trailer with Kevin Costner and Bill Paxton
 

Originally Posted by Dr. DVD (Post 11257162)
I wonder how History channel will follow a massive success like this? If nothing else, I think it will encourage more of getting big name Hollywood actors to star in TV made movies.

Some subjects that I think might work:

-Al Capone bio-pic

-Early days of the KKK

-Stock Car racing-this could actually build somewhat on the time period where H&M left off, as what is now a huge spectator sport began as a way to quickly transport moonshine. I think this would have a lot of appeal.

I'm assuming this is what History Channel's next mini series of 2013 will be (or not, I'm speculating):

To Appomattox

DJariya 06-06-12 06:32 PM

Re: Hatfields and McCoys trailer with Kevin Costner and Bill Paxton
 
^^^ Holy shit, the cast on that miniseries is ridiculous.

It looks like it's actually going to be an HBO miniseries.

superdeluxe 06-06-12 07:34 PM

Re: Hatfields and McCoys trailer with Kevin Costner and Bill Paxton
 
Holy balls, 8 episodes? This isn't a mini series it's a hbo length season.

See a McCoy and a hatfield in there

I thought hatfield vs McCoy was event tv, that right there is epic!

superdeluxe 06-06-12 07:36 PM

Re: Hatfields and McCoys trailer with Kevin Costner and Bill Paxton
 
I wonder if appamatox was the reason Lewis and clark was delayed?

sauce07 06-06-12 08:39 PM

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After the big success of this there's no way History doesn't make a few more miniseries. I wonder how long it will take before they take the cheap route and go from Robert Duvall caliber actors to Burt Reynolds.

hippie68 06-07-12 10:35 AM

Re: Hatfields and McCoys trailer with Kevin Costner and Bill Paxton
 
Watched this on a friends recommendation and so glad I did. Knew nothing of the story beforehand. I really enjoyed it and thought the leads were amazing in it. Also really loved the soundtrack. Can't wait to pick it up on Blu Ray.

So now that it seems i've become a history buff, is there any more good mini series to watch?

starman9000 06-07-12 10:45 AM

Re: Hatfields and McCoys trailer with Kevin Costner and Bill Paxton
 

Originally Posted by hippie68 (Post 11262844)

So now that it seems i've become a history buff, is there any more good mini series to watch?

http://ecx.images-amazon.com/images/...500_AA300_.jpg

http://ecx.images-amazon.com/images/...500_AA300_.jpg

Though some might argue about whether they are "mini-series."

bunkaroo 06-07-12 10:55 AM

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Haven't read through the thread as I've only seen part 1, but I was not impressed. Are parts 2 and 3 better?

Giles 06-07-12 11:25 AM

Re: Hatfields and McCoys trailer with Kevin Costner and Bill Paxton
 

Originally Posted by starman9000 (Post 11262857)

10 episodes, roughly 10 hours (give or take) has a beginning and a definite ending - yes, I consider that a mini-series.

these have been sitting in my 'to watch' pile forever, finally getting around to actually watching them.

RocShemp 06-07-12 11:33 AM

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I need to see From the Earth to the Moon.

Don't forget these two:

http://lh4.googleusercontent.com/pub...mpHdVwJx23h8Xm

http://lh4.googleusercontent.com/pub...VpsRpH5I0PHvZY

Giles 06-07-12 11:46 AM

Re: Hatfields and McCoys trailer with Kevin Costner and Bill Paxton
 

Originally Posted by hippie68 (Post 11262844)

So now that it seems i've become a history buff, is there any more good mini series to watch?


HBO's 'Rome' may have the gratuitous nudity and OTT violence, but

https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikiped...x-Claudius.jpg

is utterly riveting!

Dr. DVD 06-07-12 11:50 AM

Re: Hatfields and McCoys trailer with Kevin Costner and Bill Paxton
 
Appomattox has a lot of impressive names, and also some country music stars. Surprised Hatfields and McCoys didn't take that route, but glad they didn't.

Giles 06-07-12 11:52 AM

Re: Hatfields and McCoys trailer with Kevin Costner and Bill Paxton
 
speaking of the actors of H&M who was the young actor that got
Spoiler:
hung at the end there
, he looked very familiar.

superdeluxe 06-07-12 01:31 PM

Re: Hatfields and McCoys trailer with Kevin Costner and Bill Paxton
 

Originally Posted by hippie68 (Post 11262844)
Watched this on a friends recommendation and so glad I did. Knew nothing of the story beforehand. I really enjoyed it and thought the leads were amazing in it. Also really loved the soundtrack. Can't wait to pick it up on Blu Ray.

So now that it seems i've become a history buff, is there any more good mini series to watch?

Band of Brothers one of the best out there.

Ken Burn's Civil War series is really well done.

Giles 06-07-12 01:44 PM

Re: Hatfields and McCoys trailer with Kevin Costner and Bill Paxton
 

Originally Posted by superdeluxe (Post 11263163)
Band of Brothers one of the best out there.

Ken Burn's Civil War series is really well done.

and if you got a 5.1 setup, the DTS sound on the bluray is A-mazing.

I thought the soundmix and the hi-def cinematography for 'Hatfields and McCoys' was very very good too.

dino88 06-07-12 02:07 PM

Re: Hatfields and McCoys trailer with Kevin Costner and Bill Paxton
 

Originally Posted by Giles (Post 11262978)
speaking of the actors of H&M who was the young actor that got
Spoiler:
hung at the end there
, he looked very familiar.

Do you watch Shameless? He plays Mickey. He was also the son on The Riches.

Gunde 06-07-12 02:23 PM

Re: Hatfields and McCoys trailer with Kevin Costner and Bill Paxton
 

Originally Posted by DJariya (Post 11262081)
^^^ Holy shit, the cast on that miniseries is ridiculous.

Wow, you weren't kidding. That thing is definitely on my radar now.

RocShemp 06-07-12 02:40 PM

Re: Hatfields and McCoys trailer with Kevin Costner and Bill Paxton
 

Originally Posted by Giles (Post 11263185)
and if you got a 5.1 setup, the DTS sound on the bluray is A-mazing.

As much as I love the sound of Band of Brothers, the audio of The Pacific knocks it (and most theatrical war films) right outta the water.

Giles 06-07-12 04:10 PM

Re: Hatfields and McCoys trailer with Kevin Costner and Bill Paxton
 

Originally Posted by dino88 (Post 11263235)
Do you watch Shameless? He plays Mickey. He was also the son on The Riches.

ooooohhhh. that's right


Originally Posted by RocShemp (Post 11263309)
As much as I love the sound of Band of Brothers, the audio of The Pacific knocks it (and most theatrical war films) right outta the water.

that's next up after I watch 'Band' (also watching 'From Earth to the Moon' concurrently right now too).


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