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Re: Hatfields and McCoys trailer with Kevin Costner and Bill Paxton
That scene with the McCoy flipping off the Hatfields from across the river was awesome.
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Re: Hatfields and McCoys trailer with Kevin Costner and Bill Paxton
Originally Posted by Lateralus
(Post 11251627)
That scene with the McCoy flipping off the Hatfields from across the river was awesome.
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Re: Hatfields and McCoys trailer with Kevin Costner and Bill Paxton
Originally Posted by Dr Mabuse
(Post 11251224)
Good.
Maybe it will inspire some of the simpleton network execs to make more stuff at this level. Didn't Selleck's western hold the record until this? |
Re: Hatfields and McCoys trailer with Kevin Costner and Bill Paxton
Originally Posted by mickey65
(Post 11251319)
Which one?
Originally Posted by starman9000
(Post 11251659)
Broken Trail with Robert Duval from 2006 was the previous one.
'Broken Trail' had very high ratings though. |
Re: Hatfields and McCoys trailer with Kevin Costner and Bill Paxton
Tom Berenger is amazing in this.
Based on his high billing I was wondering when he'd show up, only now noticing that he's been there the whole time! |
Re: Hatfields and McCoys trailer with Kevin Costner and Bill Paxton
Originally Posted by Dr Mabuse
(Post 11251839)
'Crossfire Trail'. I had to look it up just now. I own all Selleck's western on disc, and knew that one of them held the all time record.
No it was the Selleck western's record that this broke. I just looked it up. :) 'Broken Trail' had very high ratings though. |
Re: Hatfields and McCoys trailer with Kevin Costner and Bill Paxton
Originally Posted by creekdipper
(Post 11250504)
Really liked it until it lurched off the path into the Johnse-Roseanna story. Everything seemed very authentic until then. Can't remember the original details (and don't want to spoil the story by doing advance research), but I was rooting for the McCoy boys to fatally plug Johnse when they saw him "kissin' on" their sister. Sadly, we had to endure (as one critic put it) what threatened to be a CW version of the feud, complete with late-night seduction, rapturous skinny-dipping, declarations of love, etc. from (again, quoting a critic) the two "prettier-than-likely" younguns. Likewise the seduction of a drunken Johnse by Roseanna's cousin. Much more effective was Paxton's dumping of the hope chest & other moments showing how deeply the feud had laid its claim at that point.
Nice job by most of the actors approximating Appalachian (pronounced correctly by Paxton, BTW) dialect. Was also surprised to see how well Romania could pass for rural WV. Costner, Paxton, Boothe, Winningham, and the main supporting cast are outstanding so far. Whoever termed that "CW" spot on. :lol::thumbsup: And Johnsie has appeared in at least 2 CW shows. :lol: I have no idea how accurate this miniseries is. It's reasonably entertaining though. But if it's 25% accurate, it's a wonder how we survived as a human race to this day. I wonder if the reality is that the Hatfields were much smarter than the McCoys because McCoys appear to be a bunch of idgets in this. :lol: |
Re: Hatfields and McCoys trailer with Kevin Costner and Bill Paxton
Originally Posted by creekdipper
(Post 11251566)
Favorite character so far? "Bad Frank" Phillips
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Re: Hatfields and McCoys trailer with Kevin Costner and Bill Paxton
"Bad Frank" Phillips is the bounty hunter, correct?
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Re: Hatfields and McCoys trailer with Kevin Costner and Bill Paxton
Originally Posted by Dr. DVD
(Post 11252604)
"Bad Frank" Phillips is the bounty hunter, correct?
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Re: Hatfields and McCoys trailer with Kevin Costner and Bill Paxton
Yeah - I vote for the bounty hunter, who's trying to clean up on the foolishness. :lol:
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Re: Hatfields and McCoys trailer with Kevin Costner and Bill Paxton
Originally Posted by creekdipper
(Post 11251566)
Favorite character so far? "Bad Frank" Phillips
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Re: Hatfields and McCoys trailer with Kevin Costner and Bill Paxton
Fantastic.
The captions at the end ran much too fast I couldn't read what happened to them all! |
Re: Hatfields and McCoys trailer with Kevin Costner and Bill Paxton
Originally Posted by Lateralus
(Post 11252777)
Fantastic.
The captions at the end ran much too fast I couldn't read what happened to them all! |
Re: Hatfields and McCoys trailer with Kevin Costner and Bill Paxton
Official ratings numbers for Part 1
Hatfields & McCoys, Part 1 - History 13.866 million viewers, #1; 4.772 million adults 18-49 (3.7 rating), #2 Read more at http://www.thefutoncritic.com/rating...Uhkl4aS87TG.99 |
Re: Hatfields and McCoys trailer with Kevin Costner and Bill Paxton
Originally Posted by DJariya
(Post 11252822)
Official ratings numbers for Part 1
Hatfields & McCoys, Part 1 - History 13.866 million viewers, #1; 4.772 million adults 18-49 (3.7 rating), #2 Read more at http://www.thefutoncritic.com/rating...Uhkl4aS87TG.99 What I find even more amazing is that the ratings actually held up for part 2. 13.1 million viewers for part 2, while also doing 4.7 million in 18-49 again. I thought retention would be high, but not that high. |
Re: Hatfields and McCoys trailer with Kevin Costner and Bill Paxton
Very good mini-series. B+
Felt sorry for Cottonhead. He never should have been put into that situation. Where they are now went by way too fast. According to Wiki, Johnsey romance with Roseanne and marriage to Nancy really happen. Mare Willingham sure has aged badly. |
Re: Hatfields and McCoys trailer with Kevin Costner and Bill Paxton
Originally Posted by Lateralus
(Post 11252777)
Fantastic.
The captions at the end ran much too fast I couldn't read what happened to them all!
Originally Posted by Sonny Corinthos
(Post 11252815)
Same here. What was up with that? After watching this for the last three nights, the least they could do is run the captions at a slower pace. Does anyone know what happened to them?
Sally McCoy 1829-189? It's said that Sally McCoy died in a mental hospital...Randall McCoy was buried next to his beloved wife. Wall Hatfield 1834-1889 Wall Hatfield never lived to appeal...He died in prison a few months after sentencing. Johnse Hatfield 1862-1922 Johnse Hatfield, upon his return from Oregon, was sentenced to life in prison. After saving the Warden from a knife attack, Johnse received an early pardon...He married four more times. Cap Hatfield 1864-1930 Cap Hatfield became a lawyer...then served as Deputy Sheriff. Elias "Good Lias" Hatfield 1848-1927 Elias Hatfield left Mate Creek to raise a family...His son Henry D. Hatfield, became Governor of West Virginia and a U.S. Senator. Perry Cline 1845-1891 Perry Cline died two years after the trials. Nancy McCoy 1865-1901 Frank Phillips 1861-189? Nancy McCoy-Hatfield-Phillips died several years after Bad Frank's death...She is buried alongside him. Devil Anse Hatfield 1839-1921 Anse died peacefully in his sleep...His funeral attended by over 5000 mourners. Levicy passed away eight years later. A statue of Devil Anse, sculpted in Italy, marks their double gravesite. |
Re: Hatfields and McCoys trailer with Kevin Costner and Bill Paxton
Originally Posted by Gunde
(Post 11252235)
Tom Berenger is amazing in this.
Based on his high billing I was wondering when he'd show up, only now noticing that he's been there the whole time! |
Re: Hatfields and McCoys trailer with Kevin Costner and Bill Paxton
Liked part 1, really liked part 2 and thought part 3 was just okay. Overall, it was worth watching, but I'd rather read some books on the feud (which I plan to do) than watch it again on blu.
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Re: Hatfields and McCoys trailer with Kevin Costner and Bill Paxton
Originally Posted by The Valeyard
(Post 11252944)
Holy crap! I didn't realize that was Tom Berenger! Wow!!
Me, neither. I'm quite ashamed, being a Berenger fan & having seen dozens of his movies and tv appearances. He deserves award consideration for burying himself (NPI) in the role. Powers Boothe was his usual silky-smooth self. Nobody does that better, whether he's playing Jim Jones or the pimp from Deadwood. Internet research reveals that pretty much all of the main events happened (although maybe not exactly in the way portrayed) including all of the deaths shown and characters portrayed. One exception was that I couldn't find anything about Bad Frank's demise...even in viewing it first, that part seemed tacked-on to let the audience see a villainous character get his comeuppance. Some interesting variations on the Johnse-Roseanne story. One source indicated that Roseanne was older than 17-yr.-old Johnse and that she seduced him (and had quite a reputation for being 'loose'). In fact, that source speculated that her bad reputation might have been the reason Anse refused to give his permission for them to marry, while saying that Anse did permit Johnse to marry Nancy McCoy. Other variations portrayed Johnse in a much darker light than the series, having him being the one to abandon a pregnant Roseanne to marry Nancy. A published confession from Ellison Hatfield AKA Ellison Mount had Johnse participating in the beating & kicking of Sally McCoy & testified that Johnse bragged about being the one to shoot Calvin (although others claimed credit). I think it even said that they were shooting into the loft where the children were. On the other hand, some accounts described Devil Anse as a fun-loving practical joker while describing 'Ol Ran'l' as dour & morbid (similar to Paxton's portrayal). Mare Winningham did a great job as Sally. As far as her 'aging', she's looked kinda older for a few years now (like Sissy Spacek, these gals are starting to get some serious mileage on them. Then, so is Tommy Lee Jones). Overall, it seemed that they did stick to the basic facts although they pumped up the love story & made some characters more villainous/virtuous than their real-life counterparts . Actually, most of the sources indicate that everybody was pretty much bloodthirsty and that there weren't any real peacemakers around. Some sources said the feud pretty much ended with the hanging of Cottontop while others said the feud continued for a few more years, resulting in a few more casualties. Nice job overall & very entertaining even if it did get a bit melodramatic (as if they needed to invent drama for this tale). |
Re: Hatfields and McCoys trailer with Kevin Costner and Bill Paxton
What happened to Cap during the battle that he could not shoot well? I glanced away for not more than a couple seconds and I missed it!
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Re: Hatfields and McCoys trailer with Kevin Costner and Bill Paxton
FYI, the History Channel is showing a new documentary about the feud at 4:00 PM on Saturday ("America's Greatest Feud: The History of the Hatfields & McCoys").
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Re: Hatfields and McCoys trailer with Kevin Costner and Bill Paxton
This really was fantastic.
Andrew Howard was terrific. That guy gets villain roles in b movies mostly, but I think he could handle being a lead easily. It was hard seeing Paxton turn in to a sniveling coward that would run out on his family to save himself, then run around crying about it like it was someone else's fault. To bad Johnse didn't get one in the back of the head while fishing. That sickening puke and all his cowardly crap had earned him a killin'. Beringer was on from the beginning of the series. He really delivered in this. Costner was terrific as producer and in the lead. |
Re: Hatfields and McCoys trailer with Kevin Costner and Bill Paxton
Originally Posted by Lateralus
(Post 11253068)
What happened to Cap during the battle that he could not shoot well? I glanced away for not more than a couple seconds and I missed it!
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