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Old 09-23-11 | 03:21 PM
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I thought cable card availability was mandated by the FCC, or maybe it was that they had to be supported by the providers or something. What happened to all that?
Yes they are but some small companies were grandfathered out. My small company has them, you just need to call or stop in and ask for them. I'm guessing they probably started giving more out with the advent of the Tivo Series 3 which required two cable cards. The new Tivo Premieres use one cable card which is capable of running two tuners.

Also, someone posted earlier that the cable boxes you get from your cable company now most likely have a cable card inside of them.
Old 09-23-11 | 03:31 PM
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Originally Posted by Bill Needle
I looked up my hand sketch from when I had it all put in. The 'DECA' is what lives by your receivers (coax in, coax and Cat5 out to the receiver). Then there is a 'SWM' which takes Cat5 from your router in, and outputs via coax into your coax splitter. This adds the internet onto your in-home coax making it available to your receivers (via the DECA which breaks it back out to Cat5 for the receiver). I also don't see why you couldn't split it out to BR DVD players, XBOX, internet ready TVs, etc in the same entertainment center.

Hope that description makes sense. Of course you always have the option of running Cat5 directly to your receivers, but this does simplify that if you don't already have wiring in place or it would be difficult.
I'll have to look into that. I've been using DirecTV2PC outside on my laptop and sometimes have all sorts of problems with stuttering. I have a really long ethernet cable that I run to the laptop, but my DVR is connected through wireless. I'm betting that's my problem. I've been trying to figure out if there was something I should buy rather than just another long ethernet cable. Maybe this is it.
Old 09-23-11 | 03:43 PM
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Re: Why Don't the Major Networks Get On Board with DVRs?

Comcrap offered cable cards instead of a box when I first got my HDTV in early '05, although you really had to press customer service to give you one. I tried them out, but no surprise, just like their boxes, they were a piece of crap. I would have to re-scan the channels practically on a daily basis because the card kept failing. After a few weeks of that, I had enough and told them to bring me another digital box.
Old 09-26-11 | 08:40 AM
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Re: Why Don't the Major Networks Get On Board with DVRs?

Originally Posted by Bill Needle
I looked up my hand sketch from when I had it all put in. The 'DECA' is what lives by your receivers (coax in, coax and Cat5 out to the receiver). Then there is a 'SWM' which takes Cat5 from your router in, and outputs via coax into your coax splitter. This adds the internet onto your in-home coax making it available to your receivers (via the DECA which breaks it back out to Cat5 for the receiver). I also don't see why you couldn't split it out to BR DVD players, XBOX, internet ready TVs, etc in the same entertainment center.

Hope that description makes sense. Of course you always have the option of running Cat5 directly to your receivers, but this does simplify that if you don't already have wiring in place or it would be difficult.
Hmmm. I looked at my setup and I don't see any cat5. It's just coax coming in, going into the new small boxes the tech brought, then coax out from those into my receivers. And he didn't do anything with my router at all.
Old 09-26-11 | 03:06 PM
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Re: Why Don't the Major Networks Get On Board with DVRs?

The newer receivers are DECA enabled (DirecTV Ethernet Coaxial Adapter), they essentially have it built in. There is no need to split off a cat5 cable to the cat5 jack on the receiver. In fact my new DVR I got when this setup was put in at my home does not use one either.

As far as hooking up to your router to make the internet accessible, that isn't something required by the whole home setup (the DVR/Receivers just need to be able to talk to each other), so he probably didn't bother with it. I was hooked to my router through hardwire cat5 to my DVR already, so my tech added a DECA Broadband Adapter instead. This unit takes router cat5 in and puts it onto a coax output which is connected to the coax splitter, placing internet riding on the coax throughout the system. It is then accessible to the receivers by either the built-in or adding an external DECA (which has a cat5 output).

But I'm not an expert. dbstalk has a zillion threads on this subject.
Old 09-27-11 | 09:13 AM
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Thanks, I'll look into it.

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