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Old 07-06-12 | 09:12 PM
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Re: Does Breaking Bad ever get good?

Originally Posted by DthRdrX
I have a feeling that this show is going to end with Walt getting away with everything but some other universal disaster happening to him.
I guess he should have to answer for his sins, but he isn't as evil as the one's he's has to deal with. I want him tunneling his way to freedom and hanging out with Jesse working on his boat.

No-one take my idea. It's never been done before.
Old 07-07-12 | 12:55 AM
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Re: Does Breaking Bad ever get good?

Originally Posted by stopgap
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Hence 'Breaking Bad'. To me it became abundantly clear he was a man that adapted to the moment at hand. Fatal consequences usually happened. I have a hard time thinking anyone he was responsible with being killed was exactly 'innocent'. He tried to live in a normal family template. You know, like we are all told to be from birth.

Took us awhile to see how he can be unlike Gus who was ruthless from the beginning (though the eventual back-story gave us a view on why).

Walt has been responsible for deaths due to survival. Unlike the others that do it just to make a point. I believe Walt knew the kid would make it though from the poisoning. This is all just how I grasped the story individually so don't flame me. I welcome a discussion if anyone disagrees though.
Except that the entire series is null and void if Walt had just taken the money/job from his former colleagues.
Old 07-07-12 | 12:29 PM
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Re: Does Breaking Bad ever get good?

This is kind of a dumb thread to keep bumping for those not currently up to date with Breaking Bad, but hell I'll play along.

For some reason I never got into the show when it was airing week to week. So I blind bought seasons 1-3 at one point when they were below $20 and casually started watching. Then I started to get really into it. I bought the BD for season 4 release week.

So, here's my situation, I just finished season 2 last night. Loved it. I'm now beginning season 3. I have 26 episodes to get through before next Sunday. My Directv season pass is already set for the premiere. I hope to finish in time to watch week to week.
Old 07-07-12 | 02:03 PM
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Re: Does Breaking Bad ever get good?

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Except that the entire series is null and void if Walt had just taken the money/job from his former colleagues.
Of course. It's obvious he is bitter about that.
Old 07-07-12 | 05:37 PM
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Re: Does Breaking Bad ever get good?

My point was Walt doesn't simply kill out of survival. He doesn't just adapt to each situation, he's cold and calculated. There was no reason he had to kill that guy in Jesse's basement in the first season. Sure it came to that point, but he could have let him go sooner and just been a man and dealt with the consequences of his actions to that point. Up to that point his crimes would have been minor for a first time offense and with his brother-in-law tossing some DEA sway his way, he would have been fine. He didn't need 700k to provide for his family in the event of his death, they'll get along just fine. People do it day in and day out.

I just don't buy the "people he killed were bad anyway" so Walt gets a pass argument. Walt has been one of those people since the first season.

Season 4 spoiler talk:

Spoiler:

As for the Lily of the Valley poisoning... I still haven't decided on that. Given Walt's actions over the past 4 years, I'm leaning toward, I don't think he gave a shit about whether the kid lived or died. He was a means to an end. However part of me wants to believe (like Vader), there is still good in him. He obviously is a chemistry genius and could have easily figured out the right dosage to not harm the kid, but it kinda seems like him surviving will be a loose end for Jesse to figure out. I guess we might learn more on that soon enough.
Old 07-07-12 | 06:50 PM
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Re: Does Breaking Bad ever get good?

Originally Posted by Michael Corvin
Season 4 spoiler talk:

Spoiler:

As for the Lily of the Valley poisoning... I still haven't decided on that. Given Walt's actions over the past 4 years, I'm leaning toward, I don't think he gave a shit about whether the kid lived or died. He was a means to an end. However part of me wants to believe (like Vader), there is still good in him. He obviously is a chemistry genius and could have easily figured out the right dosage to not harm the kid, but it kinda seems like him surviving will be a loose end for Jesse to figure out. I guess we might learn more on that soon enough.
I'm pretty sure that he definately did it. It's probably been discussed already. But those intros/outros in the second season did have a lot of misdirection.
Old 07-08-12 | 03:14 PM
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Re: Does Breaking Bad ever get good?

i started watching the marathon that amc did last year leading up to season 4. Omg i was hooked from the start i love this show, cant wait for season 5 to start next week.
Old 07-08-12 | 04:33 PM
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Re: Does Breaking Bad ever get good?

Originally Posted by troystiffler
I'm pretty sure that he definately did it. It's probably been discussed already. But those intros/outros in the second season did have a lot of misdirection.
Definitely did what? I'm not arguing whether or not he did the "LoV" thing, I'm wondering about his state of mind at the time.
Old 07-08-12 | 08:31 PM
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I think, through the whole thing, Walt is a good guy stuck in a bad place. And he's stripped down his morality to survive as he backed himself into a corner. He's always been the good guy. Ironically, beyond surviving through the cancer, he hasn't really gotten to spend a dime.

My guess, is the end of season five, he's going to be in the same place he was at the begining of the show. With or without the cancer. Or maybe he'll finally get to live large in this season. This is the first time in four seasons that he's been out of the hole. Maybe some IRS problem, or the Ted problem will surface.
Old 07-08-12 | 08:52 PM
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Re: Does Breaking Bad ever get good?

I know 12 pages isn't overly impressive, but I'm a fairly regular, middle of the road poster on this forum and have been for a long time. I definitely post less these days, but I'm around plenty. And I know, as I live and breathe, that no thread that I start again will ever go this long. So, this will be my dvdtalk pride and joy until the day that I die.

It's been long enough now where I'm more likely to feel inclined to watch this next season, when I truly gave it my all and couldn't get through the 2nd season before quitting.

The show just wasn't my thing. The fact that so many other people like it certainly suggests it's a great show, I just felt bored with it despite the fact that a lot of crazy sh^t happened that should have entertained me.
Old 07-08-12 | 09:02 PM
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Re: Does Breaking Bad ever get good?

Originally Posted by dolphinboy
I know 12 pages isn't overly impressive, but I'm a fairly regular, middle of the road poster on this forum and have been for a long time. I definitely post less these days, but I'm around plenty. And I know, as I live and breathe, that no thread that I start again will ever go this long. So, this will be my dvdtalk pride and joy until the day that I die.
It's only 8, but congrats.

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The show just wasn't my thing. The fact that so many other people like it certainly suggests it's a great show, I just felt bored with it despite the fact that a lot of crazy sh^t happened that should have entertained me.
I wasn't here at the beginning of the thread (just go hooked a month ago) but there's nothing wrong with not liking it.

I'm not into mob movies but I can appreciate that Godfather & Goodfellas are great, they're just not my thing. As much as everyone praised Sopranos I just knew it wasn't my thing and I wouldn't be able to give it a fair shake. Same goes here. If season 1 didn't hook you I doubt the show ever will.
Old 07-09-12 | 01:02 AM
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Re: Does Breaking Bad ever get good?

Originally Posted by troystiffler
I'm pretty sure that he definately did it. It's probably been discussed already. But those intros/outros in the second season did have a lot of misdirection.
it wouldnt shock me if
Spoiler:
Walt comes clean and eventually tells Jesse that not only did he poison his GF's kid, but also let Jane OD and die which will prob lead to something huge. He almost admited to killing Jane in the "fly" episode of season 3 but never did
Old 07-09-12 | 01:13 AM
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Re: Does Breaking Bad ever get good?

Originally Posted by DJariya
This is kind of a dumb thread to keep bumping for those not currently up to date with Breaking Bad, but hell I'll play along.

For some reason I never got into the show when it was airing week to week. So I blind bought seasons 1-3 at one point when they were below $20 and casually started watching. Then I started to get really into it. I bought the BD for season 4 release week.

So, here's my situation, I just finished season 2 last night. Loved it. I'm now beginning season 3. I have 26 episodes to get through before next Sunday. My Directv season pass is already set for the premiere. I hope to finish in time to watch week to week.

Good to have you on board. I must say that I'm shocked that you are just now getting into Breaking Bad though.
Old 07-09-12 | 11:40 AM
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Re: Does Breaking Bad ever get good?

I just finished re-watching the entire series again.
I think Season 4 is MUCH better to watch in a few marathon sessions than week-to-week. I remember people complaining that nothing was really happening until the last 3 or 4 episodes, but watching them all together, I found I appreciated some of the subtle moments much more this time around.
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Good to have you on board. I must say that I'm shocked that you are just now getting into Breaking Bad though.


I'm in disbelief as well. I thought he was watching already.
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Re: Does Breaking Bad ever get good?

Originally Posted by Michael Corvin
It's only 8, but congrats.
Depends on his settings.

I watched the first 6 episodes of the show and was just...bored. But with all the praise, I finally just sat down and powered through. And I'm glad I did, as I ended up watching everything in about a month.

That said, it's a hard show for me to recommend, as it's pretty intense and that doesn't work for some people. And I'll never watch through it again, as it's not an experience I need a second time. It's just too intense and nearly everyone involved is an awful human being so it's hard to root for any of them.

I do have to give the show props for basically making Jessie the best of the bunch as far as actual humanity goes.
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yeah they've done a good job developing Jessie, he's had a solid arc so far. I liked Season 1 except for the kleptomaniac crap.
Old 07-09-12 | 05:32 PM
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Originally Posted by SomethingMore
I just finished re-watching the entire series again.
I think Season 4 is MUCH better to watch in a few marathon sessions than week-to-week. I remember people complaining that nothing was really happening until the last 3 or 4 episodes, but watching them all together, I found I appreciated some of the subtle moments much more this time around.
One thing I would strongly recommend if you have the DVDs is watching the cast commentary for your favorite episode(s) if you haven't already. Of course, there's plenty of 'such and such was a great guy', but Gilligan often talks about the lighting, use of color, music choices, camera angles, sets, etc, you really get a sense for just how finely crafted the show is.
Old 07-09-12 | 08:33 PM
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Re: Does Breaking Bad ever get good?

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One thing I would strongly recommend if you have the DVDs is watching the cast commentary for your favorite episode(s) if you haven't already. Of course, there's plenty of 'such and such was a great guy', but Gilligan often talks about the lighting, use of color, music choices, camera angles, sets, etc, you really get a sense for just how finely crafted the show is.
Good to know. I might do that.
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Re: Does Breaking Bad ever get good?

Originally Posted by misterchimpy
One thing I would strongly recommend if you have the DVDs is watching the cast commentary for your favorite episode(s) if you haven't already. Of course, there's plenty of 'such and such was a great guy', but Gilligan often talks about the lighting, use of color, music choices, camera angles, sets, etc, you really get a sense for just how finely crafted the show is.
Good tip! I'll probably do this after the first half of Season 5 airs.
Old 07-10-12 | 09:34 PM
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Re: Does Breaking Bad ever get good?

I just finished Season Two and I think the show is fantastic. There aren't too many shows I've watched recently where I wanted to start the next episode as soon as the last one ended. Breaking Bad has been one of those shows.
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I just finished Season Two and I think the show is fantastic. There aren't too many shows I've watched recently where I wanted to start the next episode as soon as the last one ended. Breaking Bad has been one of those shows.
I agree, only a couple others come to mind for me. 24 & Entourage. I love that feeling of "gotta start the next one" but Breaking Bad is heavy. It's the kind of show you don't want to have that feeling for.
Old 07-17-12 | 12:57 PM
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Re: Does Breaking Bad ever get good?

Just finished S1 Sunday night and started S2 last night. I hope to catchup entirely before S5 is finished.

I was a tad disappointed in the S1 finale. Not that it wasn't good but I half expected a major cliff-hanger and instead got a bit of a downer ending. Still a fantastic show though.
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Re: Does Breaking Bad ever get good?

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I was a tad disappointed in the S1 finale. Not that it wasn't good but I half expected a major cliff-hanger and instead got a bit of a downer ending. Still a fantastic show though.
that was at the time of the writer's strike, so they had no real choice in ending the season right then.

The show keeps getting better though! welcome aboard
Old 07-17-12 | 04:24 PM
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I figured I'd watch this during a so far boring summer after having quit watching the show in the middle of season 2 and starting this thread.

Wow, it's still so boring and dumb. I tune in and the writing is so offensive and flat. Walt goes to get breakfast and then leaves the entire meal on the table and not, at least, giving it to the poor. Come on, the economy is in tank and he orders eggs, plays games with the bacon and then doesn't even eat? What a waste...the show is so stupid and boring and now insensitive to people who are hungry.

A show glorifying drug use and now the wasting of food and not starting off the day with a good meal. Terrible show. Total waste of time!

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I'm just kidding. I'll watch season 5 and then go on to see how it ends even though I don't find the show to be as great as most of you do.


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