Mr. Salty

So let me get this straight --- a veteran detective who has presumably lived in the city for years has never seen the casino's logo or the name of the ferry before? If it's like the casinos where I live, their ads and billboards would be inescapable.

kenny79

Or didn't Google "Adela Seattle" and look for results other than people's names?

Mr. Salty

Let me say that, despite a few plot holes, I'm generally enjoying "The Killing." I like the slower pace, which, less face it, will still only be half the length of the usual network TV season.

My biggest gripe, though, is the character Sarah Linden. Her personality, what little there is of it, isn't interesting (has she ever shown an emotion other than being irritated at her kid?). And she certainly doesn't seem like a very good cop. Whenever she does have a break in the case it seems to be by accident, not because of anything she's done. And she sure as hell didn't do anything to defuse Stan Larson's violent tendencies.

I'd like to see the original series to see how it compares to the U.S. remake.

Dragon Tattoo

Really? Did you even watch last night's episode? Do you actually watch this show and not just tune out while it's on? Because they had Sarah quite clearly show "an emotion other than being irritated at her kid" last night when talking to her now-ex fiance. Her personality is very subtle, but it's most definitely there, so I don't understand how anyone paying even a modicum of attention to this show could actually type what you just typed.

To the contrary, Sarah's one of the more fascinating characters on the show, and seems like quite the capable detective.

d2cheer

I could have predicted that would happen in the very first show. I have 2 in my cue to watch but I have pretty much given up at this point. I get more out of reading these theads than watching the show. I know someone will post the killer if/when they find out and that will be enough for me.

Coral

I was wondering the same thing. Even if she has a good reason for not knowing, wouldn't she be asking others if they knew where it was from?

Also agree about not googling Adela.

Is it the show's intention to make these detective's dumber than most?

Also, Sarah didn't sound credible during the interigation of Belko. What she was saying and how she was trying to get under Belko's skin didn't come off as natural. Almost as if she's a rookie detective.

Goat3001

Agreed. It seems they want the more shocking reveal that she came upon the ferry by accident than to actually make her look like a good cop that knew exactly what Adela was in the beginning. Even while I was watching I was confused as to why they were convinced that Adela was a person, my first thought was that it was a place.

Anubis2005X

What pisses me off is that Linden can't seem to figure out how to put her cell phone on vibrate. Her phone as gone off like four or five times in an awkward situation. You'd think she'd learn, but I guess not...

reubs82

I think she's got an old-school flip-phone, doesn't she? Maybe the vibrate motor is broken, or maybe it doesn't have vibrate. That said, she could turn the volume down...

Goat3001

She's neither. Her background story is dragging the show down. Her kid is a douche. Her fiance doesn't have any patience. It's just annoying to watch her interact with these people. I see what the writers are doing, we've seen it before. Put some strong background into the cop to make him/her a human figure instead of "just a cop". But they aren't doing a very good job with it. I thought they did a better job with Homeboy Cop and his previous drug problems. They put it out there, made us realize that he's overcome a lot to be a good cop and they moved on.

And she's not a good detective at all for the reasons many have listed here. Mainly because she's the biggest reason why Larsen beat Bennett half to death. Meanwhile you have her partner who seems to be making the big strides in the case.

Ropes Pierre

At this point to shake things up i hope they go "insane", with the reveal and make it something like Bennett's pregnant wife, with a boomerang and then say it is too Scandinavian for simple minded Americans to understand.

A boomerang? "It represents Rosie's arc, and how no good deed goes unpunished. the past will always come back to haunt you"

But that has nothing to do with Rosie's story or any of her actions...

"Lutte Fish"

Anubis2005X

Maybe it has something to do with the Aunt and getting life insurance from Rosie or something. These financial issues they're facing make me go "hmm..."

TimeandTide

Excellent points.

Although despite the show's weaknesses, I felt this last ep. was the season's second best (with the premier being number one). Things moved along pretty briskly without the usual "grief porn" grinding things to a halt, and most of the ep. focused on the actual investigation, and the relationship between the two cops (the high point of the show for me).

And I'm less interested in who Rosie's killer is than I am in finding out Linden's backstory (was intrigued by her fiances line about her staring at a blank wall while in the hospital).

Mr. Salty

Yes, on both counts.

Linden's behavior with her fiance proves my point. How about she stands up for herself and has a real conversation with him? In the real world who would behave like either of these two people?

Rosie's murder happened 10 days ago. It's been less than a week since Linden was supposed to leave Seattle to be with her fiance. How hard would it be for her to tell her fiance, "You know what, honey, I'm the lead detective on the murder of a teenage girl. How about you cut me some fucking slack and give me a few days to wrap this up? I'll be with you in a few days."

But no, Linden just looks at him like an abused puppy.

Seriously, who ends an engagement over a few days apart?

kstublen

I really liked this episode and thought it was nice to move away from the Bennett storyline. It was great to see that they just let Mohammad take the girl to Canada, claiming she left before they got there.

Stan's storyline was my favorite though. You could tell he really regretted what he did and his turning himself in and being willing to plead guilty says a lot about him. Will be interesting to see where they go from there.



Agreed. I never thought he was a suspect at all just given the way he held Stan and the family in such high regard. There was no reason for him to have murdered Rosie. They gave us the false clues, like the bed-wetting, but I never suspected him. The scene with them interrogating was really hard to watch; I felt so bad for the guy. And all he cared about was that Mitch not find out he was in the house. Obviously he has problems, but not rising to the level of raping or murdering someone he essentially viewed as his little sister or niece.

The aunt has been acting awfully strange from the start, but I just don't understand what her motive would have been in killing Rosie. If she ends up being the murderer, there needs to be a damn compelling reason for her to have killed her niece, otherwise it's just not going to be satisfying as the reveal. I guess she could always just be crazy though and hate Rosie because she views her as a spoiled girl or something, who knows.

I do, however, hope it ends up being someone we've met before and not someone they just throw in at the last minute.

This was my biggest complaint about the episode (which I otherwise liked). They have the logo of a casino on the key, a name, a time, etc. and they can't figure out what it all means? You'd think anyone with a search engine or someone who had lived in the area for a few years would have been able to at least tell you something about one of them.

I'm starting to agree. Although she is pushing her partner to follow some leads that he would probably otherwise ignore. Still though, a lot of what she discovers just ends up being pure dumb luck, whereas he seems capable of figuring things out, given time. I like that he recognizes he needs sleep and can't let the case consume his life, whereas she is becoming unstable as a result.

Anubis2005X

I like Holder a lot more than Linden. He seems like he has his act together a lot better than she does. (At least he knows how to put his phone on vibrate!)

Raul3

Great comments from everyone.

I haven't thought a lot about Linden as a detective, if she's good or bad, but I certainly like her.

PacMan2006

I really like this show, and I actually like Linden, but hey, those are good points.

I don't quite understand the conflict of Linden's relationship. I understand they have plans to be together and get married, but she's knee deep in an investigation. Why does he keep crawling up her a** about it?

Who knows, maybe we just need patience and we'll learn more about her backstory.

Anubis2005X

I think it has something to do with her fiance realizing that Linden's work consumes her (at least in theory). She becomes obsessed to the point where a marriage just wouldn't work (again, in theory). So it's either one or the other...

PacMan2006

Okay, remind me--Linden was set to move out of town on episode one. After the move (and wedding), was she planning to stay in the same career, or did she hint at retiring from being a cop and making a living doing something else?

Goat3001

That's where it's heading. We'll probably find out she gets consumed into a case every time she's handed one. Of course we have 3 episodes left and they just barely hinted at it. And on top of that if the marriage wouldn't work because she's too consumed with work, how did they get to the point where they got engaged?

Shady12

Their boss should have never told her to go out to the scene in the first place on her last day ("you're still working here until the end of the day") knowing her obsessive history. Should have found someone else. He had to know she would (or heck any detective for that matter) want to see it through if they started it.

Anubis2005X

Ooooh, the boss is behind it all!!

Raul3

I don't remember, but she was moving to Sonoma, CA. That's a really small town, I don't think there's a lot of work there for a detective. She can always commute to SF or Oakland (40-60 minutes away) though.

PopcornTreeCt

I had issues with this in the story because the husband must have known what he was getting into, he knew she was obsessed with her work. So, why on earth would he think that she would move with him? As he said "there's always another case" I wanted to yell at the TV, you dummy, did you really think you were going to change her? If he really wanted that relationship to work he would've moved to her not the other way around.

Also, why is she obsessed about the case? She hasn't given any hints other than she appears to like working and can't stand her personal life.