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Old 05-16-11 | 08:51 AM
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Just wait for it, it's still early Monday morning and I can't see those idiots passing up this chance.
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One of the reasons they filmed in Northern Ireland and Malta for this show is those are two of the few places that don't regulate animal violence in filmed entertainment.
Old 05-16-11 | 08:55 AM
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Re: Game of Thrones -- "The Wolf and the Lion" -- 5/15/11

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It's actually because they believe he had something to do with the poisoning of Jon Arryn and they are taking him to her sister Lyssa who was married to him.

She kept saying they were going to Winterfell to throw everyone off. I believe that the path they are taking is considered to be more dangerous than staying on the King's Road.
Tyrion was not implied to be the poisoner, just the Lannisters; she went to the one place she knew was safe, her sister's kingdom, while stating "loudly and often" that they were going to Winterfell.
Old 05-16-11 | 09:03 AM
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Originally Posted by rocketsauce
Just wait for it, it's still early Monday morning and I can't see those idiots passing up this chance.
And I am sure someone is going to pipe in about the 9 year old sucking off momma's tit

lol. This episode had everything.

I did miss the scenes at the wall, I think that is my favorite storyline.

I can't wait to see what happens in the next episode.
Old 05-16-11 | 09:10 AM
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Oh and the exchange between littlefingers and Varys was Great.
Old 05-16-11 | 09:17 AM
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And I am sure someone is going to pipe in about the 9 year old sucking off momma's tit
I was actually thinking the same thing during that part. It had to be fake right? There's no way they let a kid that age actually suck on a women's tit.
Old 05-16-11 | 09:18 AM
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I would like to see this Renly/Loras relationship explored further...
Old 05-16-11 | 09:18 AM
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It seems that they are focusing on a handful of stories now, rather than trying to cover everything at once. I think this approach works better.
Old 05-16-11 | 09:34 AM
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Originally Posted by rocketsauce
I was actually thinking the same thing during that part. It had to be fake right? There's no way they let a kid that age actually suck on a women's tit.
Yeah it was a fake
Old 05-16-11 | 10:46 AM
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One of the reasons they filmed in Northern Ireland and Malta for this show is those are two of the few places that don't regulate animal violence in filmed entertainment.


And then there are the great steed decapitations in cinema:

The Fell Beast, Khartoum, Buckbeak, Gwyneth Paltrow in Seven...
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And Bran was a total brat in the episode.
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And Bran was a total brat in the episode.
I agree. Didn't come off as likeable at all.
Old 05-16-11 | 12:49 PM
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Did't like this change from the books-
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Loras/Renly storyline. It only hints at them being gay and hot for each other from what I remember..It's something many people flat out didn't catch onto. Going full on with it on the show, interesting. Don't remember Renly being a megawuss in the books either.
Otherwise LOVED the episode. Did miss not having anything from the wall though.
Old 05-16-11 | 01:20 PM
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Did't like this change from the books-
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Loras/Renly storyline. It only hints at them being gay and hot for each other from what I remember..It's something many people flat out didn't catch onto. Going full on with it on the show, interesting. Don't remember Renly being a megawuss in the books either.
Otherwise LOVED the episode. Did miss not having anything from the wall though.
But you have to remember
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We didn't have a Loras or Renly POV, so we had to just assume what happened. Same like with the Cersei/Robert conversation..they didn't have a POV, so the shows writers get to plug in some things in there..based on there being no POV.


But I agree, I think the Wall setting/storyline is my favorite so far.
Old 05-16-11 | 01:28 PM
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Originally Posted by superdeluxe
And Bran was a total brat in the episode.
Well, he's SUPPOSED to be kind of ticked off, really. You take any kid and tell him he's crippled for life, and I imagine he's not going to be exactly thrilled about it.
Old 05-16-11 | 01:31 PM
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And that his father, mother, sisters, and bastard brother left while he was in a coma.
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But you have to remember
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We didn't have a Loras or Renly POV, so we had to just assume what happened. Same like with the Cersei/Robert conversation..they didn't have a POV, so the shows writers get to plug in some things in there..based on there being no POV.


But I agree, I think the Wall setting/storyline is my favorite so far.
Yeah,
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I was thinking the same when typing that out.


Do not like Addy and Heady's portrayals of these characters. Cersei is very different.
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Not sure if anyone is interested, but Martin linked to a really interesting website about the making of the title sequence of the show here. Not sure if there are spoilers or not, so be warned.
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Re: Game of Thrones -- "The Wolf and the Lion" -- 5/15/11

I also enjoyed a moment of clarity from Robert. He's not the fool everyone believes him to be, understanding that he can't meet the Dothraki in the field but also understanding that a protracted siege would undermine his support.

Although I have read the books it was a long time ago and I never quite understood what gave Robert the right to claim the throne after the mad king was assaniated. So his tenuous support at least among the major houses, or his perception of the lack of support, is realistic.
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Although I have read the books it was a long time ago and I never quite understood what gave Robert the right to claim the throne after the mad king was assaniated.
His family tree. His paternal grandmother was a Targaryen -- Rhaelle. Rhaelle was the daughter of King Aegon V and sister to Jaeherys II. Jaeherys was the father of the Mad King. Basically, the Baratheons (of Robert's generation) are one quarter Targaryen, and therefore the closest living relatives of the Mad King.
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Great:
The Mountain vs. The Hound. That actually looked pretty realistic and scary.
Dinklage
The conversation between Cersei and Robert
Varys and Littlefinger sparring
Mark Addy continues to own the character
Spoiler:
The feeling off the noose being drawn tight around Stark's neck. He's not really the sharpest tool in the shed, is he. I never picked that up in the books but the point is well made in the show.


OK:
The Eerie: the book made it much more forbidding and epic. It's just a standard fantasy castle in this show
The lack of the Blackfish, maybe he'll make an appearance later, maybe they're trying to skinny down the character list a bit, but he's pretty important.
The "eh" introduction of the yet unnamed Bronn, one of my favorite characters from the book.

Getting kind of annoying:
Gratuitous boobies. I'm as red blooded as the next man, but enough with the hot chicks getting railed from behind already.
More Wall, please.
Old 05-16-11 | 09:30 PM
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Re: Game of Thrones -- "The Wolf and the Lion" -- 5/15/11

I guess you could say that Jory got an eyeful in this episode.
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Jory's out on that one.
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OK:
The Eerie: the book made it much more forbidding and epic. It's just a standard fantasy castle in this show
The lack of the Blackfish, maybe he'll make an appearance later, maybe they're trying to skinny down the character list a bit, but he's pretty important.
Regarding the Blackfish:
Spoiler:
The rumor is that the character of the Blackfish is being combined with that of Catelyn's brother Edmure, so he'll show up later on (maybe not this season, can't really remember).

Also,
Spoiler:
The Eyrie. Although it is pretty eerie.

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Old 05-16-11 | 10:30 PM
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I thought the conversation scene between Robert and Cersei was incredible and beautifully acted by Addy and Headey. You see two people who have basically hated each other for 17 years yet they both understand that there are times when they must talk to each other and be civil. Their mutual laughter that their marriage was keeping Westeros together was funny and tragic. I got the sense that under slightly different circumstances, these two could have been friends.


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