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Old 05-14-11 | 04:44 PM
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"Batman Beyond"

I searched and found 20 pages of results, but only two threads actually about this series--and both of those were specifically about Return of the Joker.

I initially passed on this show, largely because the idea of a teen Batman held no appeal for me and I was bothered that Batman: The Animated Series was giving way to make room for this. I did pick up the initial DVD release with the premiere episodes presented in one cut. Thought it was alright, but not enough to make me want to see more.

I turned up Season One on DVD recently and finished off that set late last night. I should have given the show a chance in 1998. The stuff with Terry McGinnis in his world (family, friends, school) doesn't do much for me, but I love Old Man Bruce Wayne, and seeing his world through Terry's eyes. The stuff with Commissioner Barbara Gordon works very well, especially in "A Touch of Curare."

Also, I thought Derek Powers was a great addition to the mythology. Original? No. There had already been Lex Luthor in this kind of role, and various others. But we've rarely seen Bruce Wayne have to contend with this kind of guy on a regular basis. At the time, there was his psuedo-working relationship with Luthor in Kingdom Come, but nothing ongoing like Powers was in the first season of Batman Beyond.

I suspect it'll be a while before I ever get around to the other two seasons, but I did notice that DC Comics has resurrected this series in comic book form recently. I haven't bought any of it yet, but for those who may have a passing interest I thought I'd mention it.
Old 05-14-11 | 05:20 PM
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Don't forget to watch the JLU episode that ties up the series. I can't remember which season disc it was but it was a really good ending to the entire series.
Old 05-14-11 | 06:20 PM
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Re: "Batman Beyond"

Originally Posted by mrhan
Don't forget to watch the JLU episode that ties up the series. I can't remember which season disc it was but it was a really good ending to the entire series.
I'm already well informed about that episode from a friend who kept up with it. I liked the idea of Justice League, but it seemed every time I tuned in the villains were of the "evil magician/deity" kind that bore me so I gave up on the show. I'll get around to it, though. (You can tell how urgently I'm compelled to work my way through these things by starting a thread a decade after this show ended!)
Old 05-14-11 | 06:23 PM
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Re: "Batman Beyond"

Originally Posted by mrhan
Don't forget to watch the JLU episode that ties up the series. I can't remember which season disc it was but it was a really good ending to the entire series.
"Epilogue"

For those who DON'T know...

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Batman_...#Feature_films


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Justice League Unlimited revisited the world of Batman Beyond twice in 2005. The first time featured Batman, Wonder Woman and Green Lantern transported 50 years into the future to stop a time-travelling villain with the help of the future Justice League Unlimited cast, including Terry McGinnis as Batman and a future Static. The second time occurred during the episode "Epilogue", where the true secret origin of the future Batman is learned in a story meant to be the de facto series finale for this Batman's story.

Set 15 years after the conclusion of Batman Beyond, Epilogue reveals that Bruce Wayne is actually Terry McGinnis' biological father. The episode is told largely through flashback sequences.

Over the years, Amanda Waller came to respect Batman and even trust him. As the years passed, she saw that he was getting older and slower. The thought of a world without Batman was unacceptable to her, so she decided to make a new one. She used her Cadmus connections to gather the technology for "Project Batman Beyond", and obtained Bruce Wayne's DNA. She found a young Neo Gotham couple with psychological profiles nearly identical to those of Bruce's parents, and injected Warren McGinnis with a nanotech solution programmed to re-write his reproductive material into an exact copy of Bruce Wayne's. A little over a year later, Mary McGinnis gave birth to Terry, a child with genetics from his mother and Bruce.

When Terry was 8 years-old, Waller employed an elderly Andrea Beaumont (the enigmatic killer from Batman: Mask of the Phantasm and once Bruce Wayne's true love) as an assassin to kill Terry's family, hoping the trauma would put him on the path to becoming Batman. However, Beaumont could not commit the act, arguing that Batman would never resort to murder to achieve his goals. Waller, however, conceded that Beaumont had been right, and made no further attempts to push Terry into becoming Batman, although she also stated to Terry that "when making a Batman, genetics is only half the story. The rest is tragedy" in an attempt to explain why she believed that doing this would put him on the path to becoming Batman. Derek Powers would later have Warren murdered, resulting in Terry becoming the new Batman. As the death of Warren proved soon afterwards, she was correct.

Fifteen years after Terry became the new Batman, Bruce's kidneys fail and doctors need a tissue donor to clone him new ones. When Terry shows a perfect histo-compatibility match with Bruce, he runs a DNA test and found out that half his DNA was from Bruce. Terry assumes that Bruce set the whole thing up, using some old Cadmus nanotechnology to have Terry's genes rewritten to match Bruce's, similar to what the Joker did to Tim Drake. He tracks Waller down, and she reveals his origins to him. Waller also reminds Terry that he is Bruce's son, not his clone, and that despite his genetics he still has free will and makes his own choice in becoming Batman.

Whether Bruce was the genetic father of Terry's younger brother Matt as well was not clearly established, as nothing was stated as to the longevity of the alterations made to Warren McGinnis; however, the series' creators have said that this is most likely the case.[8] Matt and Terry both have black hair, but are the sons of two red-haired people – a genetic improbability as red hair is recessive, and requires a gene from both parents in order to present as a phenotype.
Old 05-14-11 | 06:42 PM
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I still remember the pilot where the new joker gang is harrasing Mcginnis and Bruce comes out and the gang yells "we are the jokers" and Bruce smiles that evil smile of his saying "sure, you are".
Old 05-14-11 | 09:15 PM
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I loved that show. Even more that dc saw fit to give fans conclusion to the show through jlu.
Old 05-15-11 | 02:42 PM
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I only saw it on DVD, long after it had aired. The futuristic setting had put me off from watching it while it ran, but positive word-of-mouth forced me to give it a chance. A good show because it incorporates Batman's history without altering too much for television. The Blu-ray for BB:Return Of The Joker looks and sounds great for what is basically an older direct-to-video feature.
Old 05-25-11 | 02:40 AM
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This show really is awesome. It was a really strange premise but Bruce Timm works magic with cartoons. I HIGHLY recommend going through the entire Bruce Timm DC saga starting with Batman TAS, Superman, Batman Beyond then the Justice Leagues. Awesome series that really shout out and even entertwine with each other. "Epilogue" is truly an sSpectacular ending to the series. Albiet a bit late and in a different series.

At the time this came out spiderman 3000 also premiered. What a difference. That showed threw everything out the door. This one really did A LOT for the batman mythos. A very significant show. I really like how they fill in some gaps and leave others for the imagination. I especially like what caused Bruce to hang up the cowl.

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