The Killing -- "Vengeance" -- 5/08/11
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The Killing -- "Vengeance" -- 5/08/11
By djariya at 2011-04-03
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Episode 7 of 13
According to AMC's Suspect Tracker, Fans think Amber Ahmed is the new top suspect at 27%
http://suspecttracker.amctv.com/breakdown.php
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Re: The Killing -- "Vengeance" -- 5/08/11
Grandma Larsen is just a little racist
EDIT: That's how the episode is going to end? Really?
I see Mrs. Larsen is now the one wanting to kill Bennet.
EDIT: That's how the episode is going to end? Really?
I see Mrs. Larsen is now the one wanting to kill Bennet.
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That's just not right, ending it like that. I struggle enough waiting for each week's episodes.
I am ready for some dirt on Darren Richmond. He's too squeaky clean.
I am ready for some dirt on Darren Richmond. He's too squeaky clean.
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Crazy ending. I imagine the FBI was watching that warehouse, or whatever it is, for suspected terrorist activity. Will be interesting to see what comes of them breaking into the place.
I like how we know that the basement in the school has nothing to do with Rosie Larsen's murder, but that someone on the outside would think she was raped there. It doesn't surprise me that there would be misinformation like that in the real world and I'm glad they're integrating the basement back into the story in a reasonable way.
That's really nice of the Imam to say, "Since you haven't solved this case yet, I won't help you catch a murderer in a different case." I have no doubt that there are people in the real world that would react that way; just because they haven't solved one case doesn't mean you shouldn't help them solve another. The Imam should have done the right thing regardless.
I'm glad Richmond hasn't compromised his values yet and turned on Bennett, who in all likelihood is probably innocent. It wouldn't surprise me if it ends up either being something innocent (like Bennett and Mohammad were moving a rug or something, given the renovations going on at the house) or something terrorist-related (like Bennett, Mohammad, and a third individual were doing something and the third individual inadvertently died).
I'm glad Stan didn't kill Bennett. It was nice to see that he really has changed and is willing to let the police solve the case rather than potentially killing an innocent man.
Holder continues to be my favorite character on the show. I loved the moment when he walked past the Lieutenant's office and Sarah was standing in the doorway and he walks back, surprised to have seen her there.
I like how we know that the basement in the school has nothing to do with Rosie Larsen's murder, but that someone on the outside would think she was raped there. It doesn't surprise me that there would be misinformation like that in the real world and I'm glad they're integrating the basement back into the story in a reasonable way.
That's really nice of the Imam to say, "Since you haven't solved this case yet, I won't help you catch a murderer in a different case." I have no doubt that there are people in the real world that would react that way; just because they haven't solved one case doesn't mean you shouldn't help them solve another. The Imam should have done the right thing regardless.
I'm glad Richmond hasn't compromised his values yet and turned on Bennett, who in all likelihood is probably innocent. It wouldn't surprise me if it ends up either being something innocent (like Bennett and Mohammad were moving a rug or something, given the renovations going on at the house) or something terrorist-related (like Bennett, Mohammad, and a third individual were doing something and the third individual inadvertently died).
I'm glad Stan didn't kill Bennett. It was nice to see that he really has changed and is willing to let the police solve the case rather than potentially killing an innocent man.
Holder continues to be my favorite character on the show. I loved the moment when he walked past the Lieutenant's office and Sarah was standing in the doorway and he walks back, surprised to have seen her there.
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Re: The Killing -- "Vengeance" -- 5/08/11
I think there may be a connection between the events of the first episode where Stan and that mamaluke who works with him picked up some meat from a Muslim looking guy (that Stan's mamaluke cohort kept calling Osama, was his name Mohamed?), and now Linden and Holder end up at a meat packing plant / looking for someone named Mohamed.
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Good catch.
And I also missed the woman that dropped the paper with the address.
So, in the AMC website Belko Royce is the main suspect this week (http://suspecttracker.amctv.com/breakdown.php). The funny thing for me, is that someone has been showing in the middle of graph every week, guess who? Yeah, Rick Felder (Sarah's fiancée)
And I also missed the woman that dropped the paper with the address.
So, in the AMC website Belko Royce is the main suspect this week (http://suspecttracker.amctv.com/breakdown.php). The funny thing for me, is that someone has been showing in the middle of graph every week, guess who? Yeah, Rick Felder (Sarah's fiancée)
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Re: The Killing -- "Vengeance" -- 5/08/11
Didn't expect the ending at all. I love the fact that its so far into the season and we still have a lot of unanswered questions and the story is still going in surprising directions (like the apparent inclusion of the FBI now).
It looked like Richmond had a new idea on how to hit back at the mayor so it will be interesting to see what he does.
It looked like Richmond had a new idea on how to hit back at the mayor so it will be interesting to see what he does.
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at Grandma Larsen. What a racist!
I also enjoyed this episode. That ending with Sarah and Holder being detained by the FBI was nuts. I know that some people may get a little impatient with the slow storytelling, but I think for the setup of this show it's working just fine. I'm in no hurry to see the eventual outcome.
Bennet's wife quicky died as a suspect once her condition was revealed.
I liked how the guy at the Mosque said there is 40 Mohammed's there.
I also enjoyed this episode. That ending with Sarah and Holder being detained by the FBI was nuts. I know that some people may get a little impatient with the slow storytelling, but I think for the setup of this show it's working just fine. I'm in no hurry to see the eventual outcome.
Bennet's wife quicky died as a suspect once her condition was revealed.
I liked how the guy at the Mosque said there is 40 Mohammed's there.
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Re: The Killing -- "Vengeance" -- 5/08/11
I really like the slow-burn aspect of this show. Off-putting to some, but I'm digging the atmosphere. This week's installment was no exception
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Seems like a lot of people think so.
Read this:
http://popwatch.ew.com/2011/05/09/th...ker-vengeance/
Read this:
http://popwatch.ew.com/2011/05/09/th...ker-vengeance/
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^^ I really don't understand the complaints in that article about the show being too slow. The show IMO is attempting to be realistic and cover a murder investigation over 13 days. There is obviously going to be alot of suspects, Red Herrings and frustrations that the family and investigators go through to get the job done.
I mean there are some murder investigations that take months if not years to solve. So covering 13 days is not going to kill me as a TV viewer. I realize they have to make adjustments in order to make it more dramatic for a TV audience and some of the grief porn with the Larsen family might be a bit much. But still, I really don't have complaints about the pacing. I knew what I was getting into watching this.
I mean there are some murder investigations that take months if not years to solve. So covering 13 days is not going to kill me as a TV viewer. I realize they have to make adjustments in order to make it more dramatic for a TV audience and some of the grief porn with the Larsen family might be a bit much. But still, I really don't have complaints about the pacing. I knew what I was getting into watching this.
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It's because people are used to watching shows like Law & Order and CSI neatly wrap up criminal investigations in an hour.
All of the complaints are ridiculous, in my opinion. Like you said, it is a realistic portrayal of the ups and downs of a criminal investigation. You don't solve a murder like this over night and there are bound to be false leads, misinformation, and other things going on in the lives of those who are drawn into the investigation, whether by choice or not.
I also appreciate that they are showing us the impact Rosie's death has had on her parents and the community, instead of just focusing on the investigation. It's great that they're taking the time to make us actually care about her death, instead of making her just a faceless victim. And on that point, I don't care if the Super 8 reel Rosie made has anything to do with her murder or not; it's nice to give her greater depth than just "the girl who was murdered."
EDIT: In reading the article more closely, and one of the links in the article, I see that one of the complaints is that they introduce a cliffhanger at the end and then neatly resolve it and render it moot. I strongly disagree. The dungeon is a prime example. We see this terrible thing in the cliffhanger and assume that Rosie was raped and murdered there. Turns out, she wasn't there that night and it was a false lead. Only, that wasn't the end of it's relevance for the story. Now we have Mitch hear (incorrectly) about the dungeon and how Rosie was raped and murdered there, and she's using that as motivation to potentially go after Bennett. Just because something isn't mentioned every single episode doesn't mean it has been discarded or forgotten.
All of the complaints are ridiculous, in my opinion. Like you said, it is a realistic portrayal of the ups and downs of a criminal investigation. You don't solve a murder like this over night and there are bound to be false leads, misinformation, and other things going on in the lives of those who are drawn into the investigation, whether by choice or not.
I also appreciate that they are showing us the impact Rosie's death has had on her parents and the community, instead of just focusing on the investigation. It's great that they're taking the time to make us actually care about her death, instead of making her just a faceless victim. And on that point, I don't care if the Super 8 reel Rosie made has anything to do with her murder or not; it's nice to give her greater depth than just "the girl who was murdered."
EDIT: In reading the article more closely, and one of the links in the article, I see that one of the complaints is that they introduce a cliffhanger at the end and then neatly resolve it and render it moot. I strongly disagree. The dungeon is a prime example. We see this terrible thing in the cliffhanger and assume that Rosie was raped and murdered there. Turns out, she wasn't there that night and it was a false lead. Only, that wasn't the end of it's relevance for the story. Now we have Mitch hear (incorrectly) about the dungeon and how Rosie was raped and murdered there, and she's using that as motivation to potentially go after Bennett. Just because something isn't mentioned every single episode doesn't mean it has been discarded or forgotten.
Last edited by kstublen; 05-10-11 at 02:09 PM.
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It's because people are used to watching shows like Law & Order and CSI neatly wrap up criminal investigations in an hour.
All of the complaints are ridiculous, in my opinion. Like you said, it is a realistic portrayal of the ups and downs of a criminal investigation. You don't solve a murder like this over night and there are bound to be false leads, misinformation, and other things going on in the lives of those who are drawn into the investigation, whether by choice or not.
I also appreciate that they are showing us the impact Rosie's death has had on her parents and the community, instead of just focusing on the investigation. It's great that they're taking the time to make us actually care about her death, instead of making her just a faceless victim. And on that point, I don't care if the Super 8 reel Rosie made has anything to do with her murder or not; it's nice to give her greater depth than just "the girl who was murdered."
EDIT: In reading the article more closely, and one of the links in the article, I see that one of the complaints is that they introduce a cliffhanger at the end and then neatly resolve it and render it moot. I strongly disagree. The dungeon is a prime example. We see this terrible thing in the cliffhanger and assume that Rosie was raped and murdered there. Turns out, she wasn't there that night and it was a false lead. Only, that wasn't the end of it's relevance for the story. Now we have Mitch hear (incorrectly) about the dungeon and how Rosie was raped and murdered there, and she's using that as motivation to potentially go after Bennett. Just because something isn't mentioned every single episode doesn't mean it has been discarded or forgotten.
All of the complaints are ridiculous, in my opinion. Like you said, it is a realistic portrayal of the ups and downs of a criminal investigation. You don't solve a murder like this over night and there are bound to be false leads, misinformation, and other things going on in the lives of those who are drawn into the investigation, whether by choice or not.
I also appreciate that they are showing us the impact Rosie's death has had on her parents and the community, instead of just focusing on the investigation. It's great that they're taking the time to make us actually care about her death, instead of making her just a faceless victim. And on that point, I don't care if the Super 8 reel Rosie made has anything to do with her murder or not; it's nice to give her greater depth than just "the girl who was murdered."
EDIT: In reading the article more closely, and one of the links in the article, I see that one of the complaints is that they introduce a cliffhanger at the end and then neatly resolve it and render it moot. I strongly disagree. The dungeon is a prime example. We see this terrible thing in the cliffhanger and assume that Rosie was raped and murdered there. Turns out, she wasn't there that night and it was a false lead. Only, that wasn't the end of it's relevance for the story. Now we have Mitch hear (incorrectly) about the dungeon and how Rosie was raped and murdered there, and she's using that as motivation to potentially go after Bennett. Just because something isn't mentioned every single episode doesn't mean it has been discarded or forgotten.
As for the cliffhangers, that's an interesting tidbit I hadn't thought about that. But I can't really disagree because this episode's cliffhanger was probably the worst in the sense that it will likely have absolutely nothing to do with the investigation.
I just think this show is building up to a finale that will likely not live up to the hype. Every single damn character they've wasted time on better be linked to her death.
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I don't see why it's not an apt comparison; DJariya wondered why people were complaining about it being "too slow" and mentioned it being a realistic portrayal of a police investigation. I was using Law & Order as a comparison since they wrap up cases in an episode's time, thus people become impatient when something isn't finished or answered in one or two episode's time.
I'm not too sure about the cliffhanger complaint, mainly because most of the way the episodes have ended did have a bearing upon the investigation or impacted the characters in some significant way. The cage is probably the best example those who criticize the show have, but I've already explained how it has come back and mattered beyond it's original inclusion as a false lead.
As for them "wasting" time on characters, see my post above for a response to that complaint.
I'm not too sure about the cliffhanger complaint, mainly because most of the way the episodes have ended did have a bearing upon the investigation or impacted the characters in some significant way. The cage is probably the best example those who criticize the show have, but I've already explained how it has come back and mattered beyond it's original inclusion as a false lead.
As for them "wasting" time on characters, see my post above for a response to that complaint.