Glee -- "Special Education" -- 11/30/10
12-01-10 | 02:04 PM
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Re: Glee -- "Special Education" -- 11/30/10
Ashley Fink won this one for me. ("Best green room eh-ver" & "I'm a wrestler...it's how I warm up" "'Cause show choir sucks") The song selections were iffy, but the performances terrific.
There needs to be conflict in this show otherwise it's too sugary. Strife is what the characters seem to do best. And while the mood at Sectionals this year was quite different than last, it was recognized by the writers and turned around in the performances. "Valerie" may be one of my favorite performances, and Naya Rivera won her place as a major player for me.
Finn and Rachel aren't interesting unless they're fighting, so I'm happy they're struggling again. Quinn and Sam can't have enough onscreen time. Kurt really belongs at the Academy (he looked like Loretta Young sailing around the ornate sets), and "Dog Days" was a great way to "end" this episode.
I'm always interested in reading what people's expectations are on this board. And I'm always surprised that when they get it, they aren't happy with it. More this, less that.... You got it in this one.
There needs to be conflict in this show otherwise it's too sugary. Strife is what the characters seem to do best. And while the mood at Sectionals this year was quite different than last, it was recognized by the writers and turned around in the performances. "Valerie" may be one of my favorite performances, and Naya Rivera won her place as a major player for me.
Finn and Rachel aren't interesting unless they're fighting, so I'm happy they're struggling again. Quinn and Sam can't have enough onscreen time. Kurt really belongs at the Academy (he looked like Loretta Young sailing around the ornate sets), and "Dog Days" was a great way to "end" this episode.
I'm always interested in reading what people's expectations are on this board. And I'm always surprised that when they get it, they aren't happy with it. More this, less that.... You got it in this one.
12-01-10 | 02:16 PM
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Re: Glee -- "Special Education" -- 11/30/10
It's funny how quickly they returned to the norm of making light of HS bullying. Imagine the heights of After School Specialdom the show would reach if the entire football team had given Kurt a beat down and locked him in a port-a-potty for 24 hours.
PS Imagine the Puck beating scene happening with the light, poppy Glee score, then one of the guys beating Puck says "take that you ****"...record scratch...dramatic music, beating continues.
Edit, I guess DVDTalk doesn't like misspellings of the word kite.
PS Imagine the Puck beating scene happening with the light, poppy Glee score, then one of the guys beating Puck says "take that you ****"...record scratch...dramatic music, beating continues.
Edit, I guess DVDTalk doesn't like misspellings of the word kite.
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12-01-10 | 04:13 PM
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Re: Glee -- "Special Education" -- 11/30/10
Am I the only one that doesn't trust Sam? I feel like he's totally playing Quinn and is insincere in everything he does.
I love how high and mighty you act in these threads because you used to be in show choir or whatever.
The fact is, I can suspend disbelief for the performances because it is a musical and I have to. Just like when I watch Grease and everyone breaks out in song and dance I accept that because it is a necessary of the genre. I don't, however, have to accept poor storytelling and writing just because I'm willing to accept the singing and dancing. You said you couldn't think of an alternative. I gave you one that made a lot more sense. You claimed it was complicated. It is not, I told you why.
I lost even more respect for the show because they didn't have to resort to that cheap of a plot point, just like a lot of the things they do on the show could be accomplished without resorting to standard television fare.
And thanks for the recommendation, but I'll continue to watch whatever show I please. I've been a fan since the Pilot premiered in the summer and I hate seeing how the show has steadily declined since the first 9 episodes. I'll be the first to pipe up and say when they did something well or had a good storyline or good performance. In last week's thread I mentioned how great I thought the writing for Burt and Finn's speeches were and that there was a decent payoff with a lot of what has been happening with Kurt this season. But at the same time, I criticized what was the ridiculous Sue marriage. Same thing goes for this episode. I pointed out what I thought was the good and the bad. Just because I call a show on poor writing or bad character development doesn't mean I don't still enjoy the show or have to stop watching it. If you think this show is perfect, then by all means, enjoy, but I'm going to continue to constructively voice my criticisms as well as point out what they do well.
See you next week
I'll say whatever I want, thanks. Why don't you stop wasting time coming up with scenarios that make it more complicated than it needs to be?
The fact is - show choirs tie. Here's a show choir competition I found after 5 seconds of Google searching that offers "like awards" for groups that tie.
There are SO MANY other things about this show that are 10x more ridiculous than how the results worked out. It's a minor issue, and it's hilarious that you "lost even more respect" for the show on this point.
I'd recommend watching something else - you don't seem to like this show much anymore.
The fact is - show choirs tie. Here's a show choir competition I found after 5 seconds of Google searching that offers "like awards" for groups that tie.
There are SO MANY other things about this show that are 10x more ridiculous than how the results worked out. It's a minor issue, and it's hilarious that you "lost even more respect" for the show on this point.
I'd recommend watching something else - you don't seem to like this show much anymore.
The fact is, I can suspend disbelief for the performances because it is a musical and I have to. Just like when I watch Grease and everyone breaks out in song and dance I accept that because it is a necessary of the genre. I don't, however, have to accept poor storytelling and writing just because I'm willing to accept the singing and dancing. You said you couldn't think of an alternative. I gave you one that made a lot more sense. You claimed it was complicated. It is not, I told you why.
I lost even more respect for the show because they didn't have to resort to that cheap of a plot point, just like a lot of the things they do on the show could be accomplished without resorting to standard television fare.
And thanks for the recommendation, but I'll continue to watch whatever show I please. I've been a fan since the Pilot premiered in the summer and I hate seeing how the show has steadily declined since the first 9 episodes. I'll be the first to pipe up and say when they did something well or had a good storyline or good performance. In last week's thread I mentioned how great I thought the writing for Burt and Finn's speeches were and that there was a decent payoff with a lot of what has been happening with Kurt this season. But at the same time, I criticized what was the ridiculous Sue marriage. Same thing goes for this episode. I pointed out what I thought was the good and the bad. Just because I call a show on poor writing or bad character development doesn't mean I don't still enjoy the show or have to stop watching it. If you think this show is perfect, then by all means, enjoy, but I'm going to continue to constructively voice my criticisms as well as point out what they do well.
See you next week
12-01-10 | 04:36 PM
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Re: Glee -- "Special Education" -- 11/30/10
The fact is, I can suspend disbelief for the performances because it is a musical and I have to. Just like when I watch Grease and everyone breaks out in song and dance I accept that because it is a necessary of the genre. I don't, however, have to accept poor storytelling and writing just because I'm willing to accept the singing and dancing. You said you couldn't think of an alternative. I gave you one that made a lot more sense. You claimed it was complicated. It is not, I told you why.
I lost even more respect for the show because they didn't have to resort to that cheap of a plot point, just like a lot of the things they do on the show could be accomplished without resorting to standard television fare.
If you think this show is perfect, then by all means, enjoy, but I'm going to continue to constructively voice my criticisms as well as point out what they do well.
See you next week
12-01-10 | 04:49 PM
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Re: Glee -- "Special Education" -- 11/30/10
They would have to establish all of those competitions and, in order to give everything context, feature performances from the other groups too. You added 6 more choirs to the mix. That takes more time than you think, and featuring 9 choirs is more complicated than featuring 3. Not sure why you don't seem to get that.
We don't need to see all of the 9 hypothetical teams. At least three Sectional competitions have already been established. We saw New Directions beat the School for the Deaf and Jane Addams Academy last year. Vocal Adrenaline beat some other teams to advance, as did Aural Intensity. So we know for sure there are already three Sectionals.
Right now, we know of New Directions, Vocal Adrenaline, Aural Intensity, the Warblers, the Hipsters, Jane Addams Academy, and the School for the Deaf. That's seven teams. There would only be two unknown teams that Vocal Adrenaline beats in their Sectionals.
Aural Intensity, the Warblers, and the Hipsters all compete. We saw the Warblers and the Hipsters. No need to see Aural Intensity. They could just have them as background music like they did last year at Regionals. They could do the same for the School for the Deaf and Jane Addams Academy at New Directions' Sectionals.
So you see, there wouldn't be a need to feature 9, but instead feature 3 and then have the other 1 (Aural Intensity) playing in the background as Rachel and Kurt were talking before the performance and the other 2 (Jane Addams and Deaf School) playing in the background while New Directions is in the green room.
I typed it all out very specifically and very explicitly so as to avoid any confusion. It might sound complicated, but it really isn't. I'm just trying to show how if they had applied things they've done in the past it could have better fleshed out the competition and teams and avoided having a tie.
And here's the other problem with the tie. I fully expect to see only 3 teams at Regionals (Vocal Adrenaline, the Warblers, and New Directions), but really there should be 4, since last year there were only 3 without anyone tying. However, I'm sure they'll forget that by the time Regionals rolls around and leave us with yet another plot hole and inconsistency. I'm not advocating anything earth-shattering here...just some easy fixes that would have made more sense when you look at the show as a whole.
12-01-10 | 05:10 PM
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Re: Glee -- "Special Education" -- 11/30/10
All bickering and nitpicking aside...
We don't need to see all of the 9 hypothetical teams. At least three Sectional competitions have already been established. We saw New Directions beat the School for the Deaf and Jane Addams Academy last year. Vocal Adrenaline beat some other teams to advance, as did Aural Intensity. So we know for sure there are already three Sectionals.
Right now, we know of New Directions, Vocal Adrenaline, Aural Intensity, the Warblers, the Hipsters, Jane Addams Academy, and the School for the Deaf. That's seven teams. There would only be two unknown teams that Vocal Adrenaline beats in their Sectionals.
Aural Intensity, the Warblers, and the Hipsters all compete. We saw the Warblers and the Hipsters. No need to see Aural Intensity. They could just have them as background music like they did last year at Regionals. They could do the same for the School for the Deaf and Jane Addams Academy at New Directions' Sectionals.
So you see, there wouldn't be a need to feature 9, but instead feature 3 and then have the other 1 (Aural Intensity) playing in the background as Rachel and Kurt were talking before the performance and the other 2 (Jane Addams and Deaf School) playing in the background while New Directions is in the green room.
I typed it all out very specifically and very explicitly so as to avoid any confusion. It might sound complicated, but it really isn't. I'm just trying to show how if they had applied things they've done in the past it could have better fleshed out the competition and teams and avoided having a tie.
And here's the other problem with the tie. I fully expect to see only 3 teams at Regionals (Vocal Adrenaline, the Warblers, and New Directions), but really there should be 4, since last year there were only 3 without anyone tying. However, I'm sure they'll forget that by the time Regionals rolls around and leave us with yet another plot hole and inconsistency. I'm not advocating anything earth-shattering here...just some easy fixes that would have made more sense when you look at the show as a whole.
We don't need to see all of the 9 hypothetical teams. At least three Sectional competitions have already been established. We saw New Directions beat the School for the Deaf and Jane Addams Academy last year. Vocal Adrenaline beat some other teams to advance, as did Aural Intensity. So we know for sure there are already three Sectionals.
Right now, we know of New Directions, Vocal Adrenaline, Aural Intensity, the Warblers, the Hipsters, Jane Addams Academy, and the School for the Deaf. That's seven teams. There would only be two unknown teams that Vocal Adrenaline beats in their Sectionals.
Aural Intensity, the Warblers, and the Hipsters all compete. We saw the Warblers and the Hipsters. No need to see Aural Intensity. They could just have them as background music like they did last year at Regionals. They could do the same for the School for the Deaf and Jane Addams Academy at New Directions' Sectionals.
So you see, there wouldn't be a need to feature 9, but instead feature 3 and then have the other 1 (Aural Intensity) playing in the background as Rachel and Kurt were talking before the performance and the other 2 (Jane Addams and Deaf School) playing in the background while New Directions is in the green room.
I typed it all out very specifically and very explicitly so as to avoid any confusion. It might sound complicated, but it really isn't. I'm just trying to show how if they had applied things they've done in the past it could have better fleshed out the competition and teams and avoided having a tie.
And here's the other problem with the tie. I fully expect to see only 3 teams at Regionals (Vocal Adrenaline, the Warblers, and New Directions), but really there should be 4, since last year there were only 3 without anyone tying. However, I'm sure they'll forget that by the time Regionals rolls around and leave us with yet another plot hole and inconsistency. I'm not advocating anything earth-shattering here...just some easy fixes that would have made more sense when you look at the show as a whole.
12-01-10 | 05:55 PM
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Re: Glee -- "Special Education" -- 11/30/10
The scenes (and smiles) between Rachel and Kurt were welcome in this episode. While I personally wouldn't consider Kurt Rachel's only competition, it was nice that she said it.
I've known people like Rachel. You admire them for their talent, but can't bear to be around them at any other time. The opening scene with the choir (when Santana lets it fly) was about the best written scene involving the glee members in a while. Schuester's reactions were also more like a real teacher and the crap they have to put up with.
While this wasn't as fun as some of the installments, it had some bite to it without ever becoming maudlin.
12-01-10 | 11:19 PM
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Re: Glee -- "Special Education" -- 11/30/10
...Or singing in an auditorium without microphones
...Or building an elevator for a stage musical that isn't even performed for an audience
...Or changing the set of your second biggest show of the year a week before the competition
...Or creating brand new costumes, effects, props and choreography for an "assignment" every week
...Or pretty much anything else on this show.
...Or building an elevator for a stage musical that isn't even performed for an audience
...Or changing the set of your second biggest show of the year a week before the competition
...Or creating brand new costumes, effects, props and choreography for an "assignment" every week
...Or pretty much anything else on this show.
12-02-10 | 02:05 AM
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Re: Glee -- "Special Education" -- 11/30/10
Murphy says he's planning on replacing the cast after next season. (I assume he means just the glee club members and not Will and Sue)
http://www.tvguide.com/News/Glee-Mur...g-1026337.aspx
Are Fans Ready for Glee 2.0?
by Kate Stanhope
Imagine Glee without attention hog Rachel Berry, outspoken Kurt or ditzy Brittany. Well, a new crop of McKinley High students may be infiltrating New Directions sooner than you'd think.
Less than halfway through its sophomore season, series co-creator Ryan Murphy is already looking to the future of the popular musical comedy. He says he plans to replace the current cast with new actors once their characters graduate at the end of 2012.
"Every year we're going to populate a new group," Murphy says, according to Australian news website News.com.au. "There's nothing more depressing than a high schooler with a bald spot."
Since it's May 2009 debut, Glee has turned its twentysomething stars including Lea Michele, Cory Monteith and Chris Colfer into household names. But no matter how attached fans might be to the current cast, Murphy says he'd rather keep the show centered on a high school glee club rather than find a way to keep the same kids singing into college.
"I think you have to be true to the fact that here is a group of people who come and go in these teachers' lives — they graduate and they're gone," Murphy says. "When some of them finish their run at high school it will be very teary episodes. For me it will be particularly tough but a new crop (of actors) will come in."
Murphy attributed his graduation plan at least partly to the success the show has already seen with new students like Sam Evans (Chord Overstreet). "I think one of the things I'm very happy we've been able to do this year is we've brought in new characters," Murphy says. "I didn't know if people would want those characters (like Sam) but they do."
Past high school shows have failed to re-populate. Remember Zach from The O.C.? Neither do we. But Overstreet has been warmly embraced by fans (and head cheerleader Quinn). Although he's not a member of New Directions, Kurt's new BFF Blaine (Darren Criss) has also made a name for himself since his debut last month. His a cappella version of "Teenage Dream" has even surpassed "Don't Stop Believing" as Glee's best-selling single.
Some series have enrolled new classes of kids without a hitch. Canadian high school drama Degrassi and the UK's Skins are both still running and have rotated in new casts more than once. Friday Night Lights successfully navigated a transfer to East Dillon. (And going back into the history of television, it became laughable to see shows like Welcome Back, Kotter, which ran from 1975 to '79, with guys sporting 5 o'clock shadows in first period — because some of the actors were pushing 30 and playing high school students.)
The real question is how much of Glee's success is particular to this group of characters? Yes, the series is a hit thanks to creative storytelling, infectious music and being able to get pretty much any guest star on the planet they want. But, aside from Mr. Schu and Sue Sylvester, could the audience learn to let these kids go?
How likely is Glee to stumble upon a teenage Broadway-trained talent like Michele? And after months of watching Kurt endure teasing, bullying and slushies to the face, would fans be able to let Colfer walk off into the sunset?
Fox would not confirm Murphy's quotes, so only time will tell what the real plan is for Glee. Do you think the current McKinley class should, or can, be replaced? Or should viewers follow Rachel and company to Lima University? Sound off in the comments below!
by Kate Stanhope
Imagine Glee without attention hog Rachel Berry, outspoken Kurt or ditzy Brittany. Well, a new crop of McKinley High students may be infiltrating New Directions sooner than you'd think.
Less than halfway through its sophomore season, series co-creator Ryan Murphy is already looking to the future of the popular musical comedy. He says he plans to replace the current cast with new actors once their characters graduate at the end of 2012.
"Every year we're going to populate a new group," Murphy says, according to Australian news website News.com.au. "There's nothing more depressing than a high schooler with a bald spot."
Since it's May 2009 debut, Glee has turned its twentysomething stars including Lea Michele, Cory Monteith and Chris Colfer into household names. But no matter how attached fans might be to the current cast, Murphy says he'd rather keep the show centered on a high school glee club rather than find a way to keep the same kids singing into college.
"I think you have to be true to the fact that here is a group of people who come and go in these teachers' lives — they graduate and they're gone," Murphy says. "When some of them finish their run at high school it will be very teary episodes. For me it will be particularly tough but a new crop (of actors) will come in."
Murphy attributed his graduation plan at least partly to the success the show has already seen with new students like Sam Evans (Chord Overstreet). "I think one of the things I'm very happy we've been able to do this year is we've brought in new characters," Murphy says. "I didn't know if people would want those characters (like Sam) but they do."
Past high school shows have failed to re-populate. Remember Zach from The O.C.? Neither do we. But Overstreet has been warmly embraced by fans (and head cheerleader Quinn). Although he's not a member of New Directions, Kurt's new BFF Blaine (Darren Criss) has also made a name for himself since his debut last month. His a cappella version of "Teenage Dream" has even surpassed "Don't Stop Believing" as Glee's best-selling single.
Some series have enrolled new classes of kids without a hitch. Canadian high school drama Degrassi and the UK's Skins are both still running and have rotated in new casts more than once. Friday Night Lights successfully navigated a transfer to East Dillon. (And going back into the history of television, it became laughable to see shows like Welcome Back, Kotter, which ran from 1975 to '79, with guys sporting 5 o'clock shadows in first period — because some of the actors were pushing 30 and playing high school students.)
The real question is how much of Glee's success is particular to this group of characters? Yes, the series is a hit thanks to creative storytelling, infectious music and being able to get pretty much any guest star on the planet they want. But, aside from Mr. Schu and Sue Sylvester, could the audience learn to let these kids go?
How likely is Glee to stumble upon a teenage Broadway-trained talent like Michele? And after months of watching Kurt endure teasing, bullying and slushies to the face, would fans be able to let Colfer walk off into the sunset?
Fox would not confirm Murphy's quotes, so only time will tell what the real plan is for Glee. Do you think the current McKinley class should, or can, be replaced? Or should viewers follow Rachel and company to Lima University? Sound off in the comments below!
12-02-10 | 09:40 AM
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Re: Glee -- "Special Education" -- 11/30/10
All bickering and nitpicking aside...
We don't need to see all of the 9 hypothetical teams. At least three Sectional competitions have already been established. We saw New Directions beat the School for the Deaf and Jane Addams Academy last year. Vocal Adrenaline beat some other teams to advance, as did Aural Intensity. So we know for sure there are already three Sectionals.
Right now, we know of New Directions, Vocal Adrenaline, Aural Intensity, the Warblers, the Hipsters, Jane Addams Academy, and the School for the Deaf. That's seven teams. There would only be two unknown teams that Vocal Adrenaline beats in their Sectionals.
Aural Intensity, the Warblers, and the Hipsters all compete. We saw the Warblers and the Hipsters. No need to see Aural Intensity. They could just have them as background music like they did last year at Regionals. They could do the same for the School for the Deaf and Jane Addams Academy at New Directions' Sectionals.
So you see, there wouldn't be a need to feature 9, but instead feature 3 and then have the other 1 (Aural Intensity) playing in the background as Rachel and Kurt were talking before the performance and the other 2 (Jane Addams and Deaf School) playing in the background while New Directions is in the green room.
I typed it all out very specifically and very explicitly so as to avoid any confusion. It might sound complicated, but it really isn't. I'm just trying to show how if they had applied things they've done in the past it could have better fleshed out the competition and teams and avoided having a tie.
And here's the other problem with the tie. I fully expect to see only 3 teams at Regionals (Vocal Adrenaline, the Warblers, and New Directions), but really there should be 4, since last year there were only 3 without anyone tying. However, I'm sure they'll forget that by the time Regionals rolls around and leave us with yet another plot hole and inconsistency. I'm not advocating anything earth-shattering here...just some easy fixes that would have made more sense when you look at the show as a whole.
We don't need to see all of the 9 hypothetical teams. At least three Sectional competitions have already been established. We saw New Directions beat the School for the Deaf and Jane Addams Academy last year. Vocal Adrenaline beat some other teams to advance, as did Aural Intensity. So we know for sure there are already three Sectionals.
Right now, we know of New Directions, Vocal Adrenaline, Aural Intensity, the Warblers, the Hipsters, Jane Addams Academy, and the School for the Deaf. That's seven teams. There would only be two unknown teams that Vocal Adrenaline beats in their Sectionals.
Aural Intensity, the Warblers, and the Hipsters all compete. We saw the Warblers and the Hipsters. No need to see Aural Intensity. They could just have them as background music like they did last year at Regionals. They could do the same for the School for the Deaf and Jane Addams Academy at New Directions' Sectionals.
So you see, there wouldn't be a need to feature 9, but instead feature 3 and then have the other 1 (Aural Intensity) playing in the background as Rachel and Kurt were talking before the performance and the other 2 (Jane Addams and Deaf School) playing in the background while New Directions is in the green room.
I typed it all out very specifically and very explicitly so as to avoid any confusion. It might sound complicated, but it really isn't. I'm just trying to show how if they had applied things they've done in the past it could have better fleshed out the competition and teams and avoided having a tie.
And here's the other problem with the tie. I fully expect to see only 3 teams at Regionals (Vocal Adrenaline, the Warblers, and New Directions), but really there should be 4, since last year there were only 3 without anyone tying. However, I'm sure they'll forget that by the time Regionals rolls around and leave us with yet another plot hole and inconsistency. I'm not advocating anything earth-shattering here...just some easy fixes that would have made more sense when you look at the show as a whole.
That aside, some good stuff happened in this ep. Brittany was gold, as always. Glad that she didn't cheat on Artie. Quinn and Sam are cute together. Puck got some nice moments and it was good to see some of the "minor" characters shine. Loved the dancing at the end.
I like Kurt's struggle. Now he fits in somewhere, but he wants to stand out more. Obviously that's what will move him to eventually go back to McKinley, but I do like how they are handling it so far. Except that the bird scene was a little melodramatic. Hope Burt can get a refund on part of that tuition.
12-02-10 | 10:18 AM
#61
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Re: Glee -- "Special Education" -- 11/30/10
Xander: It's really not convoluted...at all.
And look, I don't have a problem with a competition ending in a tie. I do have a problem with a competition that determines who advances to the next round ending in a tie.
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I could've sworn that not too long ago Murphy actually said he only wanted this to be a 4 or 5 year series and that he didn't want to bring in new kids. I even remember saying at that time they could just keep the teachers and cycle in new kids and if they find decent singers and actors it might actually work. Of course now I think it's a bad idea, but I find it very telling that Murphy would change his stance like that...
Do we know for sure what grades the characters are in? I seem to remember a few being juniors and most being sophomores, but I could be wrong. If they were all sophomores it would set them on track to graduate in 2012, so it makes sense to do it that way.
And look, I don't have a problem with a competition ending in a tie. I do have a problem with a competition that determines who advances to the next round ending in a tie.
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I could've sworn that not too long ago Murphy actually said he only wanted this to be a 4 or 5 year series and that he didn't want to bring in new kids. I even remember saying at that time they could just keep the teachers and cycle in new kids and if they find decent singers and actors it might actually work. Of course now I think it's a bad idea, but I find it very telling that Murphy would change his stance like that...
Do we know for sure what grades the characters are in? I seem to remember a few being juniors and most being sophomores, but I could be wrong. If they were all sophomores it would set them on track to graduate in 2012, so it makes sense to do it that way.
12-02-10 | 11:05 AM
#62
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Re: Glee -- "Special Education" -- 11/30/10
If what Murphy says is true, then I admire him for taking that approach. While Lea Michele and the others are talents, it's getting painfully obvious they are in their mid to late twenties. I see Lea returning to Broadway and having much success in whatever she might choose, so she'll be fine.
Say what you will about this show's shortcomings, but it's better than the other crap on 95-99% of TV.
Say what you will about this show's shortcomings, but it's better than the other crap on 95-99% of TV.
12-02-10 | 11:15 AM
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Seems we all watch that 1-5% of tv shows.
12-02-10 | 11:39 AM
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Re: Glee -- "Special Education" -- 11/30/10
It always seems to be somewhere in the 95-99% range, too. Nobody ever says "The worst episode of Castle is still better than 35% of all the other shows out there."
12-02-10 | 11:39 AM
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12-02-10 | 12:12 PM
#67
DVD Talk Legend
Re: Glee -- "Special Education" -- 11/30/10
99% just isn't good enough.
I get about 150 unique cable channels, times 24 hours a day that's 3600 hours of daily TV. So even the top 1% is 36 hours a day.
I need stuff that's in the 99.9 percentile of what's on TV.
I get about 150 unique cable channels, times 24 hours a day that's 3600 hours of daily TV. So even the top 1% is 36 hours a day.
I need stuff that's in the 99.9 percentile of what's on TV.
12-02-10 | 02:14 PM
#68
Re: Glee -- "Special Education" -- 11/30/10
I'm not just going to pull some numbers out of the air. I did my research.
It was weird seeing Brittany doing serious dancing in this episode. Normally she even makes me laugh when she's dancing around during the musical numbers.
It was weird seeing Brittany doing serious dancing in this episode. Normally she even makes me laugh when she's dancing around during the musical numbers.
12-02-10 | 02:21 PM
#69
DVD Talk Hero
Re: Glee -- "Special Education" -- 11/30/10
What? She and Mike are always tearing it up in the dance numbers.
12-02-10 | 02:34 PM
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Re: Glee -- "Special Education" -- 11/30/10
Oh, I know, but she normally even has a funny expression on her face while dancing that cracks me up, or just some of the odd little gestures or moves.
12-02-10 | 04:52 PM
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Re: Glee -- "Special Education" -- 11/30/10
Murphy says he's planning on replacing the cast after next season. (I assume he means just the glee club members and not Will and Sue)
http://www.tvguide.com/News/Glee-Mur...g-1026337.aspx
http://www.tvguide.com/News/Glee-Mur...g-1026337.aspx
But I guess the music industry will be more than happy to support a show that sells 6 or 7 cover versions of already popular songs a week for 2 bucks a song, or whatever the price is on iTunes at that point.
12-02-10 | 07:51 PM
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Re: Glee -- "Special Education" -- 11/30/10
As I have said before, selling stuff on iTunes seems to be the main focus of this year as opposed to telling a story. If they ever have a cover of Baby Got Back, I might have to buy that one.
12-04-10 | 02:25 PM
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Re: Glee -- "Special Education" -- 11/30/10
As far as I'm concerned, they can continually have a graduating senior class and an incoming freshman class, so everyone isn't rotated in one fell swoop. Make it a mix of students in grades 9-12. I say that without allowing for their ability to actually maintain the quality of the show itself over the long term. Casting directors need to earn their money. There is no shortage of talent out there. But writing interesting stories on a weekly basis for more than 4 years? Good luck.
12-04-10 | 02:54 PM
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Re: Glee -- "Special Education" -- 11/30/10
As far as I'm concerned, they can continually have a graduating senior class and an incoming freshman class, so everyone isn't rotated in one fell swoop. Make it a mix of students in grades 9-12. I say that without allowing for their ability to actually maintain the quality of the show itself over the long term. Casting directors need to earn their money. There is no shortage of talent out there. But writing interesting stories on a weekly basis for more than 4 years? Good luck.
