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djones6746 , 11-01-10 06:47 PM
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Really enjoyed this episode and looking forward to future shows. 

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DeputyDave , 11-01-10 06:59 PM
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Stop lying you comic book pushing shill!Originally Posted by djones6746
Really enjoyed this episode and looking forward to future shows.
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You liked it despite the fact that the show had so many poorly written instances of zombies being killed by gun shots when clearly a flame-thrower is the better weapon? Interesting...Originally Posted by djones6746
Really enjoyed this episode and looking forward to future shows.
#204
rocketsauce , 11-01-10 07:19 PM
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I am loving the direction of this thread
#205
Fist of Doom , 11-01-10 07:28 PM
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The next time I awake from a coma and wander into a zombie apocalypse, I'm not telling you guys anything.
I don't want to be mocked for my irrational behavior.
I don't want to be mocked for my irrational behavior.

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rocketsauce , 11-01-10 08:06 PM
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I don't want to be mocked for my irrational behavior.
Originally Posted by Fist of Doom
The next time I awake from a coma and wander into a zombie apocalypse, I'm not telling you guys anything. I don't want to be mocked for my irrational behavior.

This is DVDTalk, you will be mocked regardless.
#207
A bunch of zombies in this thread.
I judge my TV and films the same way. The media delivery is entirely irrelevant.
Yes, this is the best zombie story ever made into a TV show. If there were no films, that would matter. But there are films, and The Walking Dead is nothing more than some good ideas from a bunch of them put into a TV show. Nothing original or particularly better than the best zombie films.
Giving it higher praise just because you can watch it on TV doesn't make sense to me, unless you don't watch films.
That said, it was pointed out a few times that this show is ultimately about what happens to the main characters after the typical zombie movie ends. So that means it is going to become a typical soap opera drama but with zombies. If done well, this could be awesome. But since I hate 95% of TV dramas, I'm not hopeful.
I just hope for some originality and not Grey's Anatomy of Zombies.
I judge my TV and films the same way. The media delivery is entirely irrelevant.
Yes, this is the best zombie story ever made into a TV show. If there were no films, that would matter. But there are films, and The Walking Dead is nothing more than some good ideas from a bunch of them put into a TV show. Nothing original or particularly better than the best zombie films.
Giving it higher praise just because you can watch it on TV doesn't make sense to me, unless you don't watch films.
That said, it was pointed out a few times that this show is ultimately about what happens to the main characters after the typical zombie movie ends. So that means it is going to become a typical soap opera drama but with zombies. If done well, this could be awesome. But since I hate 95% of TV dramas, I'm not hopeful.
I just hope for some originality and not Grey's Anatomy of Zombies.
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Disagree. Movies are not in serial form. (In so far as TV shows are.) If you can keep the quality up from week to week and season to season in a serial format I personally hold that in much higher regard than a single or even series of films.Originally Posted by Trevor
Giving it higher praise just because you can watch it on TV doesn't make sense to me, unless you don't watch films.
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I think for Rick, the uniform is the only thing he has left in this world that reminds him of his pre-apocalypse life. His family and friends are gone and the world has gone completely FUBAR. His police uniform is the symbol of order ("to protect and serve!") in this world of chaos.Originally Posted by Cardiff Giant11
It also bugged me for some reason that he bothered to put his police uniform on. Wouldn't you want to be in more practical clothing (especially better shoes) is there's a zombie outbreak going on? Granted maybe that was the only clean clothes he had at the station but it struck me as odd.
Loved the pilot and am looking forward to more. I haven't been this excited for a TV drama since Rome.
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Also, if you can't grasp the emotional complications of putting a bullet through your own wife's head, no mater her state, then I'm not sure what to tell you. Pussy indeed.

#211
Finally watched onDemand HD. I'm a bigtime fan of the comic (as well as almost anything written/created by Robert Kirkman) and I thought it made for a heck of a great first episode. 
And if this in ANY way helps getting an Invincible animated series greenlit, I'll watch it repeatedly!

And if this in ANY way helps getting an Invincible animated series greenlit, I'll watch it repeatedly!

#212
Never read the comic, just finished the first ep. on DVR. Really liking it so far. While there have been zombie apocalypse stories made before, I can't recall one that had this much depth to it. Most are essentially run, shoot, run some more. Not that this doesn't have that, but you seldom see a zombie flick with well written characters and acting that doesn't make you cringe, and you NEVER see it on TV.
Looking forward to next week.
Looking forward to next week.
#213
bluthswede6 , 11-01-10 09:28 PM
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1. Cop wakes up, a cop, this is a person who as a requirement of the job uses their power of observation to try and gain a handle on many, often quite fluid and deceptive, scenarios. So he wakes up, sees an eaten corpse, sees written warnings of 'the dead are in here', zombie hands sticking out of a door, countless dead bodies. Yet he's a f#%king retard and just can't figger out there might be a sizable issue afoot. Then he watches a zombie, guts hanging out and nothing below the waist except that Femur dragging along behind. Okay for f#&k's sake everyone in the modern world understands zombies, and would grasp what was up by now. Not our hero the retard. But suddenly, the glue huffing moron retard is, only a short time later, dazzling the father and son with his highly trained police powers of perception while rattling off 'the pictures are missing and how they packed'. That kind of one far extreme to the other is lousy writing that doesn't even stay true to a character. The only thing I could figure is that sort of thing came from the comics.
Having just glanced through the first two issues, this reaction is exactly how he reacted in the comic. Originally Posted by Dr Mabuse
1. Cop wakes up, a cop, this is a person who as a requirement of the job uses their power of observation to try and gain a handle on many, often quite fluid and deceptive, scenarios. So he wakes up, sees an eaten corpse, sees written warnings of 'the dead are in here', zombie hands sticking out of a door, countless dead bodies. Yet he's a f#%king retard and just can't figger out there might be a sizable issue afoot. Then he watches a zombie, guts hanging out and nothing below the waist except that Femur dragging along behind. Okay for f#&k's sake everyone in the modern world understands zombies, and would grasp what was up by now. Not our hero the retard. But suddenly, the glue huffing moron retard is, only a short time later, dazzling the father and son with his highly trained police powers of perception while rattling off 'the pictures are missing and how they packed'. That kind of one far extreme to the other is lousy writing that doesn't even stay true to a character. The only thing I could figure is that sort of thing came from the comics.
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2. 7-8 cops, height of their perception and alertness in a firefight with violent criminals. Suddenly we're supposed to forget the other 7 or 8 police with multiple angles on the overturned car even exist, and believe that the noble retard cop is just worried about his wife finding out he was hit in the vest, in the middle of a firefight. At that, a cop who''s just been shot and stands out in the open in an unresolved firefight, which is simply pathetic. But even if you don't notice that glaring ridiculousness... then we are supposed to just up and forget a bunch of armed cops who are fighting for their life with heavily armed suspects, so we can arrange his noble thoughts of 'muh wife' to his friend, so one suspect can slowly climb out in plain view of 7-8 cops who suddenly don't exist and don't fire immediately, and the one officer/friend he is talking is dead on line of sight with the bad guy too but he's suddenly not in a firefight either so he doesn't notice, all so our hero can get wounded and pull the '28 Days Later' 'guy wakes up and we can reveal the story to the audience via the visual and exposition as a character tries to acclimate himself and grasp the situation' thing.
This was new. In the comic, Rick and Shane were waiting for backup to arrive when Rick was shot by the crazy car guy. No mention of the wife or anything like that. In fact, it was only a single page. So this you can't blame on Kirkman and the comic.Originally Posted by Dr Mabuse
2. 7-8 cops, height of their perception and alertness in a firefight with violent criminals. Suddenly we're supposed to forget the other 7 or 8 police with multiple angles on the overturned car even exist, and believe that the noble retard cop is just worried about his wife finding out he was hit in the vest, in the middle of a firefight. At that, a cop who''s just been shot and stands out in the open in an unresolved firefight, which is simply pathetic. But even if you don't notice that glaring ridiculousness... then we are supposed to just up and forget a bunch of armed cops who are fighting for their life with heavily armed suspects, so we can arrange his noble thoughts of 'muh wife' to his friend, so one suspect can slowly climb out in plain view of 7-8 cops who suddenly don't exist and don't fire immediately, and the one officer/friend he is talking is dead on line of sight with the bad guy too but he's suddenly not in a firefight either so he doesn't notice, all so our hero can get wounded and pull the '28 Days Later' 'guy wakes up and we can reveal the story to the audience via the visual and exposition as a character tries to acclimate himself and grasp the situation' thing.
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Kirkman wrote a film script for a major studio a while back, I forget which one though.Originally Posted by Hokeyboy
And if this in ANY way helps getting an Invincible animated series greenlit, I'll watch it repeatedly!
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I'm not huge on the zombie genre, but I do watch those movies from time to time and have enjoyed a few - but have to admit that genre has been over-done the last 10 years or so.
I also believe the movie/show must stand on it's own. I shouldn't have to read the novel to get a better understanding of what I'm watching, and it shouldn't add or subtract from my viewing pleasure. I haven't read the graphic novel this is based on.
With that said, I enjoyed the pilot. Sure I had a few issues, but it kept me interested. I liked the idea of seeing how this genre plays out in a series because they're given enough time to flesh out characters, situations and overall story while giving it more realism. You can't do a lot with a 2 hour movie to make things different. You can pace this series properly so it's not wall-to-wall zombie killing and running.
It's still too early to judge the show, but so far I like where it's headed and how it's getting there.
I also believe the movie/show must stand on it's own. I shouldn't have to read the novel to get a better understanding of what I'm watching, and it shouldn't add or subtract from my viewing pleasure. I haven't read the graphic novel this is based on.
With that said, I enjoyed the pilot. Sure I had a few issues, but it kept me interested. I liked the idea of seeing how this genre plays out in a series because they're given enough time to flesh out characters, situations and overall story while giving it more realism. You can't do a lot with a 2 hour movie to make things different. You can pace this series properly so it's not wall-to-wall zombie killing and running.
It's still too early to judge the show, but so far I like where it's headed and how it's getting there.
#216
I thought the scene where Rick was descending the stairs in the hospital with his match, I honestly was cringing thinking that something was going to jump out.
I also like the sound design of the show.
kind of surprised that the horse didn't make it, very 'Survival of the Dead'
I also like the sound design of the show.
kind of surprised that the horse didn't make it, very 'Survival of the Dead'
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I judge my TV and films the same way. The media delivery is entirely irrelevant.
Yes, this is the best zombie story ever made into a TV show. If there were no films, that would matter. But there are films, and The Walking Dead is nothing more than some good ideas from a bunch of them put into a TV show. Nothing original or particularly better than the best zombie films.
Giving it higher praise just because you can watch it on TV doesn't make sense to me, unless you don't watch films.
That said, it was pointed out a few times that this show is ultimately about what happens to the main characters after the typical zombie movie ends. So that means it is going to become a typical soap opera drama but with zombies. If done well, this could be awesome. But since I hate 95% of TV dramas, I'm not hopeful.
I just hope for some originality and not Grey's Anatomy of Zombies.
Hard to say at this point. The comic transitions between being an intense thriller to a soap opera, and personally I prefer the former.Originally Posted by Trevor
A bunch of zombies in this thread.I judge my TV and films the same way. The media delivery is entirely irrelevant.
Yes, this is the best zombie story ever made into a TV show. If there were no films, that would matter. But there are films, and The Walking Dead is nothing more than some good ideas from a bunch of them put into a TV show. Nothing original or particularly better than the best zombie films.
Giving it higher praise just because you can watch it on TV doesn't make sense to me, unless you don't watch films.
That said, it was pointed out a few times that this show is ultimately about what happens to the main characters after the typical zombie movie ends. So that means it is going to become a typical soap opera drama but with zombies. If done well, this could be awesome. But since I hate 95% of TV dramas, I'm not hopeful.
I just hope for some originality and not Grey's Anatomy of Zombies.
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i knew this would be the most watched. i even said it to myself. hopefully, it retains a good portion throughout the 6-week run.
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Quit rationalizing, Fucker!
wow. that was harsh.Originally Posted by GoldenJCJ
I've never read any of the comics and I understood everything perfectly. 
Quit rationalizing, Fucker!
#221
Haven't read the comics and thought this was fucking brilliant. One of the best pilots in years.
#222
Did anyone REALLY say the plot made no sense without reading the comics? Or was that just hyperbole?
Because I watched the pilot with a group, and I was the only one who had read the comics, and EVERYBODY understood (and loved) it.
Because I watched the pilot with a group, and I was the only one who had read the comics, and EVERYBODY understood (and loved) it.
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watched it last night. enjoyed it thoroughly. i see no room for complaints, and this is coming from someone who never read the comic. everything rick did seemed logical and typical for someone who woudln't know what was going on.
i don't think he was out for 5 weeks in a coma (as someone suggested). however, i choose to believe that ultimately what happened is that he was in a coma for more than a few days when all of this was happening. it's possible that the military arrived by the hospital and fended off the zombies for an indeterminate amount of time (a week or maybe two) but then got over run. he was getting his care during that time. shortly after that incident, rick wakes up. so, based on that assumption, it is possible he could've been out for a while, but still getting care for his wounds and such, until shortly before he woke up.
i also commented on rick putting on his uniform when if first saw it. i thought it was dumb, as there could be many other things he could be wearing. but after thinking about it, i realized that he's reverting back to his old life. that's what he knows. plus, the uniform shows authority, so if he does run across situations, he can potentially use that to his advantage.
i don't think he was out for 5 weeks in a coma (as someone suggested). however, i choose to believe that ultimately what happened is that he was in a coma for more than a few days when all of this was happening. it's possible that the military arrived by the hospital and fended off the zombies for an indeterminate amount of time (a week or maybe two) but then got over run. he was getting his care during that time. shortly after that incident, rick wakes up. so, based on that assumption, it is possible he could've been out for a while, but still getting care for his wounds and such, until shortly before he woke up.
i also commented on rick putting on his uniform when if first saw it. i thought it was dumb, as there could be many other things he could be wearing. but after thinking about it, i realized that he's reverting back to his old life. that's what he knows. plus, the uniform shows authority, so if he does run across situations, he can potentially use that to his advantage.
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It was all hyperbole. Or at least not defense of the claim was made when details were requested. Originally Posted by Hokeyboy
Did anyone REALLY say the plot made no sense without reading the comics? Or was that just hyperbole?
People mentioned the comic and of course the discussion went hand in hand, but that got morphed by a few folks into people saying some people liked the show more because they had backstory that was missing from the show. It was all a bunch of nothing IMO.
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I didn't mean any disrespect what so ever. I was trying to make a joke about all the posters who blamed everyone who liked the show for "rationalizing" simply because they liked the episode. I agreed with you 100% which is why I used your post. I apologize if it didn't come off as a joke.Originally Posted by scott1598
wow. that was harsh.
