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Old 10-11-10, 01:44 PM
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Re: Mad Men -- "Blowing Smoke" -- 10/10/10

at the RFK impersonation.
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Re: Mad Men -- "Blowing Smoke" -- 10/10/10

Originally Posted by Turd Ferguson
I loved how Cooper ordered Harry Crane out of the room after he followed the partners into their meeting.
Yeah, I laughed at that too.
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Re: Mad Men -- "Blowing Smoke" -- 10/10/10

great ep. Don's actions were perfect and his brief interactions with Peggy made for some great moments in television.
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Re: Mad Men -- "Blowing Smoke" -- 10/10/10

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at the RFK impersonation.
At first I was thinking "They did not get a good impersonator," before I realized it must be a prank.
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Re: Mad Men -- "Blowing Smoke" -- 10/10/10

Yes, I thought, too, that they could have gotten a better RFK impersonator. It sounded like JFK with the "vigor" - and I was relieved when I saw it was a prank. I was getting very upset until that revelation.

I liked Midge's description of a heroin high - "it's like drinking 10 bottles of whiskey and getting your t!ts licked."
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Re: Mad Men -- "Blowing Smoke" -- 10/10/10

Say, do you think we've seen the last of Cooper? "Get my shoes!"
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Re: Mad Men -- "Blowing Smoke" -- 10/10/10

Fantastic episode.

Roger definitely had the best line... as usual.

Loved the side-story of the painting and how it gave Don the idea.

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Re: Mad Men -- "Blowing Smoke" -- 10/10/10

Originally Posted by bluetoast
I think it was in reference to Peggy's publicity stunt pulled earlier in the season, where she arranged for two women to fight over a ham.
Thanks that's gotta be it.

I also thought "what a bad RFK impersonation" so I was very glad when it turned out to be a prank.
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Re: Mad Men -- "Blowing Smoke" -- 10/10/10

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Yes, I thought, too, that they could have gotten a better RFK impersonator. It sounded like JFK with the "vigor" - and I was relieved when I saw it was a prank. I was getting very upset until that revelation.
"Actually getting upset?"
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Re: Mad Men -- "Blowing Smoke" -- 10/10/10

Originally Posted by bluetoast
I think it was in reference to Peggy's publicity stunt pulled earlier in the season, where she arranged for two women to fight over a ham.
Peggy's line about changing the conversation if you don't like the line of questioning. She wanted to change the company name and in essence that's exactly what Don did.
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Re: Mad Men -- "Blowing Smoke" -- 10/10/10

Originally Posted by Fist of Doom
Why was the new beancounter giving marching orders to the partners? I thought Lane was the "money man" for the firm, and he's also a partner. Pretty shocking that Bert left the firm so suddenly.

Would it kill Betty to do something nice for Sally? She wanted to eat dinner with her parents and Betty's response is an icy "We'll see." Just say yes, for fuck's sake. Damn. I will give Betty credit for wanting to move far away from that psycho-in-the-making Glen, though.
Solid episode, but it seemed like a placeholder for the finale.
i didnt see that as a noble act; she was jealous that Sally get attention from him and gets to spend time with him, so she is taking that away from her. much in the same way she doesn't want her rival to eat with her and her husband
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Re: Mad Men -- "Blowing Smoke" -- 10/10/10

Also, Don's secretary saying he had a call from an Emerson Foote

Emerson Foote, 85, Who Headed Large Advertising Agencies, Dies
By WOLFGANG SAXON
Published: July 8, 1992

Emerson Foote, the outspoken co-founder of the Foote, Cone & Belding advertising agency and former chairman of McCann-Erickson Inc., died on Sunday at a convalescent home in Carmel, N.Y. He was 85 years old and a longtime Carmel resident.

His family said he had been stricken with appendicitis and died of postoperative complications.

The two agencies he led rank among the biggest in the world today, and Mr. Foote, tall and distinguished-looking, stood as one of the giants of the industry. He became known to the general public for his acerbic views of tobacco advertising, which eventually prompted him to leave advertising. He was a former chain-smoker and was a director of the American Cancer Society.

Mr. Foote resigned as chairman of McCann-Erickson in 1964, saying he was opposed to handling cigarette accounts. He was then a member of President Lyndon B. Johnson's Commission on Heart Disease, Cancer and Stroke and endorsed the Surgeon General's report that linked cigarette smoking and lung cancer.

He ridiculed protestations that billions spent on promotions had nothing to do with people taking up the habit. "I am always amused," Mr. Foote said, "by the suggestion that advertising, a function that has been shown to increase consumption of virtually every other product, somehow miraculously fails to work for tobacco products."

A native of Sheffield, Ala., Emerson Foote attended public schools and spent the first 10 years of his working life at a savings and loan association, an automobile distributorship and a life-insurance company. In 1931, he joined an advertising agency in San Francisco.

He made his mark after moving to New York in 1938 to work for Lord & Thomas, a firm run by the legendary Albert D. Lasker, known as "the father of modern advertising." Mr. Foote started out as an assistant account executive for Lucky Strike cigarettes and, promoted to vice president, soon was put in charge of the entire account.

Mr. Lasker retired in 1942 and sold the firm to his three top managers in New York, Chicago and Los Angeles -- Emerson Foote, Fairfax Cone and Don Belding. The present chairman of Foote, Cone & Belding Communications in Chicago, Bruce Mason, yesterday called Mr. Foote "the last of our founding titans" and a "man of high integrity and principle." Resigned Tobacco Account

Mr. Foote was president of the agency in 1948 when he stirred the industry by resigning the American Tobacco account, then worth $12 million in bookings, or about a fifth of the agency's total. He retired as president two years later, citing health reasons.

But he joined McCann-Erickson as executive vice president in 1952. He served as president from 1960 to 1963 and as chairman from 1962 to 1964.

Mr. Foote's wife of 47 years, the former Sabina Fromhold, died in 1985. He is survived by a son, James A., of Old Greenwich, Conn.; three daughters, Anne Rockwell, also of Old Greenwich, Katherine Foote of Carmel, and Jennifer Foote of Manhattan; five grandchildren, and two great-grandchildren.
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Re: Mad Men -- "Blowing Smoke" -- 10/10/10

Another great episode. Don's letter was inspired. And I love the bits with him and Peggy. This season has really been remarkable.
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Re: Mad Men -- "Blowing Smoke" -- 10/10/10

Agreed, I am loving this season, so many great moments, it's been going by so fast.
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Re: Mad Men -- "Blowing Smoke" -- 10/10/10

How many people think Joan "changed her mind" and is going to "keep the baby?"

We never did see her go into the chamber. So it is possible she might have Roger's baby. Mayhaps.
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Re: Mad Men -- "Blowing Smoke" -- 10/10/10

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How many people think Joan "changed her mind" and is going to "keep the baby?"

We never did see her go into the chamber. So it is possible she might have Roger's baby. Mayhaps.
Absolutely. Now 2 of the partners will have bastard children.
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Re: Mad Men -- "Blowing Smoke" -- 10/10/10

2 that we know of. (Mayhaps.)
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Re: Mad Men -- "Blowing Smoke" -- 10/10/10

Pretty funny (perhaps not) that Pete hasn't really "given a shit" about his bastard son. No enquiry, no interest whatsoever. Now he has a daughter, and you know he just might start wondering about his son that he doesn't have in his life. Pete's the type.
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Re: Mad Men -- "Blowing Smoke" -- 10/10/10

Originally Posted by Buttmunker
How many people think Joan "changed her mind" and is going to "keep the baby?"

We never did see her go into the chamber. So it is possible she might have Roger's baby. Mayhaps.
I think if Joan didn't go through with it, we would have been shown that. I don't think the writers would throw the audience a twist/surprise like that... it's too contrived and cliched for the writers of this show. At least I"m hoping they don't do that.
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Re: Mad Men -- "Blowing Smoke" -- 10/10/10

Originally Posted by Coral
At least I"m hoping they don't do that.
They don't. And thank goodness.
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Re: Mad Men -- "Blowing Smoke" -- 10/10/10

The guy who works in Peggy's department (bottom left) - is he a trendsetter of things to come? "Business Casual." He's the only male who doesn't wear a suit in the office.

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Re: Mad Men -- "Blowing Smoke" -- 10/10/10

Originally Posted by Buttmunker
The guy who works in Peggy's department (bottom left) - is he a trendsetter of things to come? "Business Casual." He's the only male who doesn't wear a suit in the office.
I don't think anyone in the 60's wearing something that today can be described as "business casual" is a trend setter - as it wasn't adopted for a long time afterwards. If the show's setting moves to the 70's, you'll still see the same formal business attire (different styles of course). You can see the that look in movies from the 70's and 80's.

Formal business attire was still in full force when I started working in the office environment in the very early 90's. From my experience, business casual started taking hold in the second half of the 90's.
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Re: Mad Men -- "Blowing Smoke" -- 10/10/10

I'm just surprised that he can "get away with it." He wasn't "spoken to" or "addressed" or anything. Weird.
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Re: Mad Men -- "Blowing Smoke" -- 10/10/10

Early in the season Peggy was told that she has to adjust to the way he works and not the other way around... which makes me think his skills are important enough to put up with his casual attire.

I'm sure in the 60's his attire in the workplace makes him look like a low-life.
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Re: Mad Men -- "Blowing Smoke" -- 10/10/10

He's a "creative". In an advertising agency environment, creatives can get away with murder.


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