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Old 10-01-10 | 09:19 AM
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Re: The Office -- "Counseling" -- 09/30/10

Originally Posted by Deadman31
Creed cracked me up with his "Lets start our own mall." line


Creed's always good for a crazy line like that each episode.

I enjoy Michael when they showcase the idiot side, but I also enjoy the dramatic side, as we saw last night. Some of my favorite scenes where of his in Season 5 when he convinced Pam that his paper company could work and how he went head to head with Wallace during their buyout negotiation. It showed that, aside from his usual stupidity, he also possesses a sharp business sense, at times.
Old 10-01-10 | 09:19 AM
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Re: The Office -- "Counseling" -- 09/30/10

Originally Posted by rocket1312
I understand he's a writer and producer and all that. I'm just saying they should dump his character. He doesn't add anything to the show any more. I'm not even sure what his job is at this point. They had that story last year where he and Dwight were going to sabotage Jim after his promotion, but that went nowhere. In fact I don't even remember them doing anything after they agreed to team up.

I guess I wouldn't care, but he still appears in the opening credits and on the promo art with Michael, Jim, Pam, Dwight, and now Andy, while characters that actually bring something to the table do not. For some reason that really bugs me.
Yeah, him appearing on all the cover art, etc, is a bit silly, surely the result of an early contract. I don't mind him in the show though. He's kind of like Creed at this point. Nothing centers around him, but every once in a while his character will shout something out that's pretty hilarious.

The ironic thing is that I think they could do much more with his character. In fact, in some ways, I'd rather see his character develop than Jim's or Dwight's.
Old 10-01-10 | 09:39 AM
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Re: The Office -- "Counseling" -- 09/30/10

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We need a .gif of Pam getting Meredith's signature.
My first thought while watching this episode last night. I knew you guys wouldn't let me down...
Old 10-01-10 | 11:14 AM
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Re: The Office -- "Counseling" -- 09/30/10

Originally Posted by JuryDuty
Ryan's not going anywhere. In fact, BJ Novak, who plays Ryan, wrote this episode.
But does have to be ON the show? His character does absolutely nothing... did he even have a line this week?
Old 10-01-10 | 11:27 AM
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Originally Posted by rocket1312

As far as Pam goes, I felt like what she did was pretty in line with her character. Not season 1 Pam, but the more assertive and confrontational Pam that we've seen in the last year or two. I'm not saying I like or dislike her character as it is, but she's a long way from the shrinking wallflower she started as. And besides, just like Jim as manager, it didn't feel right with Pam being a salesman.
That's what I was getting at. I don't even care enough about this show anymore to think of specific examples but her characters so far removed from the character I grew to love in the first 3 seasons. I know...her character grew. She got married, had a baby, got a new job and just grew but her character is just so unlikable now. That's just my opinion of course.
Old 10-01-10 | 11:51 AM
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Re: The Office -- "Counseling" -- 09/30/10

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But does have to be ON the show? His character does absolutely nothing... did he even have a line this week?
Ryan: (to Dwight) Get rid of your glasses! They're awful!

Dwight rips them off and stomps on them.

Kellie: Aw...I liked them.

Ryan: Yeah, me too.

I thought that was a pretty funny interchange during the Dwight makeover.
Old 10-01-10 | 12:00 PM
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Re: The Office -- "Counseling" -- 09/30/10

Dwight's daycare "clown" poster was funny.
Old 10-01-10 | 12:01 PM
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Re: The Office -- "Counseling" -- 09/30/10

Originally Posted by Goat3001
I really liked the end of that plot when Gabe refused to say she was lying.
I totaly didn't get this part. can someone explain how this was funny / worked?
Old 10-01-10 | 01:01 PM
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Re: The Office -- "Counseling" -- 09/30/10

the disposable camera bit and Kelly saying she tunes herself out were great.
Old 10-01-10 | 01:17 PM
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Re: The Office -- "Counseling" -- 09/30/10

Originally Posted by CPA-ESQ.
I totaly didn't get this part. can someone explain how this was funny / worked?
I thought it was confusing, too. I think the idea was that Gabe told Pam they didn't have anything on her Administrator job...but she realized he didn't know for certain that she was lying. He was only bluffing about being certain and she called his bluff, thus the cut to Pam's confession about watching poker at 2 am.

Incidentally, I've been trying to figure out since then how I can create my own new job, too. :P
Old 10-01-10 | 03:36 PM
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Re: The Office -- "Counseling" -- 09/30/10

I just took it as Gabe is in over his head and hates to be confrontational with people, so he's a push over.
Old 10-01-10 | 03:36 PM
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Re: The Office -- "Counseling" -- 09/30/10

Originally Posted by MLBFan24
the disposable camera bit and Kelly saying she tunes herself out were great.
yeah I loved that moment as well, really liked Dwight talking about the idea of having a daycare and loved Dwight showing the daycare to jim and pam and jim locking them inside at the end.
Old 10-01-10 | 03:37 PM
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Re: The Office -- "Counseling" -- 09/30/10

Originally Posted by JuryDuty
I thought it was confusing, too. I think the idea was that Gabe told Pam they didn't have anything on her Administrator job...but she realized he didn't know for certain that she was lying. He was only bluffing about being certain and she called his bluff, thus the cut to Pam's confession about watching poker at 2 am.

Incidentally, I've been trying to figure out since then how I can create my own new job, too. :P

Also, I think it showed that Gabe has absolutely no backbone and can't make any kind of decision or call on his own.
Old 10-01-10 | 04:07 PM
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Re: The Office -- "Counseling" -- 09/30/10

Originally Posted by JoeyOhhhh
I just took it as Gabe is in over his head and hates to be confrontational with people, so he's a push over.
Exactly. He wasn't willing to flat out accuse her of lying, so she basically forced him to give her the job, since he's unwilling to NOT give her the job.

Thought that was pretty clear...playing the person, not the game.
Old 10-01-10 | 09:27 PM
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Re: The Office -- "Counseling" -- 09/30/10

Ehhh, this was one okay. The Pam subplot was interesting, although I can't believe she was able to get away with that. I like how she comes off as being so innocent when trying to justify it. Toby and Michael was annoying. The part that was sort of funny was when Michael forced him to wrap it up fast and then gave him the double middle fingers.

I did get a good chuckle from Erin throwing away the disposable camera.

Overall, a very forgettable episode. Probably not going to remember this 6 months from now.

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Old 10-01-10 | 09:36 PM
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Re: The Office -- "Counseling" -- 09/30/10

Erin is such an idiot.
Old 10-02-10 | 08:36 AM
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Re: The Office -- "Counseling" -- 09/30/10

Pam really hit the wall as far as looks go. She is starting to look like a man in drag now.
Old 10-02-10 | 09:38 AM
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Pam really hit the wall as far as looks go. She is starting to look like a man in drag now.

You can't be serious.
Old 10-02-10 | 09:59 AM
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Re: The Office -- "Counseling" -- 09/30/10

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Pam really hit the wall as far as looks go. She is starting to look like a man in drag now.
Still, she's better looking than Grace Park!
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Re: The Office -- "Counseling" -- 09/30/10

I was really rooting for Pam being able to pull it off. After all, she does have a new baby, and her husband's income is contingent on sales. The way she went about it showed more cleverness and ambition than most people there.

I really like the character, and don't see her as bitchy at all. More assertive than earlier seasons, sure, but that's attributable more to character growth than being a c**t.

BTW, did anyone else get the impression that Oscar wasn't buying it for a minute?
Old 10-02-10 | 11:14 AM
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Re: The Office -- "Counseling" -- 09/30/10

I agree with you Sessioner; she's grown as a character and is now more self-assured, confident, and assertive. She's never been a bitch, and it's telling that people characterize her as own now because she isn't the meek secretary from Season 1 anymore. I mean, why should someone change at all in 7 years?

And yeah, Oscar wasn't buying it for a minute.
Old 10-03-10 | 06:38 PM
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Re: The Office -- "Counseling" -- 09/30/10

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You can't be serious.
You have HD, right?... Baggy purple eyes, huge jowls. if i could screen cap the close-ups of her i could reiterate, but take a close look next week and see for yourself.
Old 10-03-10 | 07:37 PM
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Re: The Office -- "Counseling" -- 09/30/10

I have HD. You are insane. She's still smokin' hot.
Old 10-03-10 | 08:04 PM
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Re: The Office -- "Counseling" -- 09/30/10

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I have HD. You are insane. She's still smokin' hot.
My dear Draven, you aren't allowing for the possibility that mmconhea prefers men in drag to attractive women.

I for one will not judge him.
Old 10-05-10 | 03:54 PM
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Re: The Office -- "Counseling" -- 09/30/10

Okay there's gotta be a gif of when Toby starts opening up to Michael and Michael leans forward, puts his head on his hands in a sarcastic/cute way and smiles. That's just about the funniest thing I've seen in a long time.


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