Smallville Casting Bombshell
#26
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Not to his employers, but perhaps to his fans or just the artistic work he created.
EDIT: I could understand his choice if he doesn't feel the script is up to par, and maybe that's the case.
EDIT: I could understand his choice if he doesn't feel the script is up to par, and maybe that's the case.
#27
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Re: Smallville Casting Bombshell
And I completely reject the notion that he "owes" fans of the show anything. I've watched every episode of Smallville for almost ten years, and he doesn't owe me a single fucking thing.
#28
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hell, even megastar George Clooney came back to ER..... Rosenbaum could suck it up and do something nice for the fans.
#29
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^ lol No shit. Just a simple cameo like that would be cool.
Obviously not, but it would be nice considering it's the fans that kept the show on the air and helped pad his bank account to let him do the other things he is wanting to do.
Maybe he has had trouble shaking Lex in trying out for other gigs or something though.
Maybe he has had trouble shaking Lex in trying out for other gigs or something though.
#30
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Re: Smallville Casting Bombshell
Did Rosenbaum have any issues with the producers and/or network when he left? I ask because I'm surprised he wouldn't even provide a final scene cameo. Alexander has hair so it's not like he has to shave his head. They could always show him with a pair of clippers about to cut his hair and that's it.
#31
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Re: Smallville Casting Bombshell
I'm mixed on this. On the one hand I understand and respect this decision; afterall it's his perogative. However, as others have said it comes off as a *ickish thing to do. Other bigger stars have returned to their roots as a service to the fans and an act like this, if true, comes off as selfish. Welling even said he's called him on several occassions to try and get him to do it. Heck, Lionel and Jonathan are back.
On the flip side I think the new show runners have handled it well with both new cast additions (Tess) and the clone angle that honestly probably won't make me care too much if it doesn't come to pass.
The one thing I can't get over from a story perspective is how would it work if he knows the secret? The clones know the truth, but that doesn't seem to make much sense. It's always been my impression that he was against Superman and not Clark per se. Then again this is Smallvilleverse, so I guess anything goes.
On the flip side I think the new show runners have handled it well with both new cast additions (Tess) and the clone angle that honestly probably won't make me care too much if it doesn't come to pass.
The one thing I can't get over from a story perspective is how would it work if he knows the secret? The clones know the truth, but that doesn't seem to make much sense. It's always been my impression that he was against Superman and not Clark per se. Then again this is Smallvilleverse, so I guess anything goes.
#32
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Re: Smallville Casting Bombshell
Agree with the sentiment that while it's his perogative, but it's still a dick move IMO. Like TallGuy said, if George fucking Clooney can come back, why can't he come back for one appearance? Lame.
#33
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Re: Smallville Casting Bombshell
I havent seen Rosenbaum in anything since he left Smallville, and IMO the show got better after he left anyway.
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#35
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"Oh, I'm back and exactly the same SOB I was before, but I just happen to not remember that one key piece of information. But I know I still hate this Blur/Superman!!"
#36
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Re: Smallville Casting Bombshell
Rosenbaum isn't under any obligation, but not showing up is essentially a slap in the face to the fan-base and show that made him who he is. The show would definitley finish better if he were to show up, but if he doesn't I won't be very upset. Besides, its not like his career is taking off with him sitting in his small Hollywood Hills condo writing poetry and whatnot.
#37
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Right. It just boils down to "it would be a cool thing to do" for the fans.
Maybe he's bitter that the show got better once he left.
Maybe he's bitter that the show got better once he left.
#38
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Re: Smallville Casting Bombshell
Plus, that was three years before he left Smallville.
#39
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George Clooney probably didn't want to show up for the finale of ER.....but he respected the fact that the show was the launching pad for his career. And his fans thought better of him for it.
Rosenbaum isn't under any obligation, but not showing up is essentially a slap in the face to the fan-base and show that made him who he is. The show would definitley finish better if he were to show up, but if he doesn't I won't be very upset. Besides, its not like his career is taking off with him sitting in his small Hollywood Hills condo writing poetry and whatnot.
Rosenbaum isn't under any obligation, but not showing up is essentially a slap in the face to the fan-base and show that made him who he is. The show would definitley finish better if he were to show up, but if he doesn't I won't be very upset. Besides, its not like his career is taking off with him sitting in his small Hollywood Hills condo writing poetry and whatnot.
#40
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Re: Smallville Casting Bombshell
he also showed up again for one of the final episodes of the final season of ER, it wasn't the finale proper, but it was like the 3rd or 4th episode left of the entire show.
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#42
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Re: Smallville Casting Bombshell
Rosenbaum isn't under any obligation, but not showing up is essentially a slap in the face to the fan-base and show that made him who he is. The show would definitley finish better if he were to show up, but if he doesn't I won't be very upset. Besides, its not like his career is taking off with him sitting in his small Hollywood Hills condo writing poetry and whatnot.
#43
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Re: Smallville Casting Bombshell
By the way, George Clooney still has personal friendships with many of the people he worked with on ER, including executive producers John Wells and Mimi Leder.
Plus Clooney did have a bit of an honorable obligation to pay back since they let him out of his contract early when he left the show in 1999.
Plus Clooney did have a bit of an honorable obligation to pay back since they let him out of his contract early when he left the show in 1999.
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#45
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Re: Smallville Casting Bombshell
It's a rather odd move; no one "owes" a former employer much of anything after all. I could understand if the guy was making movies or was on a hit show. But as has been said, MUCH bigger stars have returned to the scene of the crime for farewells. There has to be some sort of history there that we are not aware of.
#46
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Re: Smallville Casting Bombshell
I've watched since the beginning and have never sent any of the cast members a single dime. Should I send a check somewhere?
#47
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Re: Smallville Casting Bombshell
Here's your new Lex Luthor. And he's a much bigger star than Rosenbaum or George Clooney.
Spoiler:
#48
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I get that you didn't literally put money in the man's pocket, but that doesn't mean that loyalty of the cultish group of people who faithfully watched the show for all these years didn't give him a pretty nice livelihood for more than a few years, because without them, the show is canceled pretty quickly.
In the end he sure doesn't "owe" anyone, anything, but it would be a nice gesture for the small group of fans who have kept the show on the air all these years - including the ones that he got paid for.
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Re: Smallville Casting Bombshell
He can certainly do whatever he wants, but if he is still acting (or considers himself an actor), it seems weird that he wouldn't come back given that he doesn't seem to be doing anything else right now.
#50
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I guess you don't realize that just by watching - viewers like you - support a show to the point where a network renews it and continues running said show. If viewers don't watch - then a show is canceled and no one gets paid. Basically what you're saying is that your time is worthless. I would disagree as you could have just as easily watched something else all those years.
I get that you didn't literally put money in the man's pocket, but that doesn't mean that loyalty of the cultish group of people who faithfully watched the show for all these years didn't give him a pretty nice livelihood for more than a few years, because without them, the show is canceled pretty quickly.
I get that you didn't literally put money in the man's pocket, but that doesn't mean that loyalty of the cultish group of people who faithfully watched the show for all these years didn't give him a pretty nice livelihood for more than a few years, because without them, the show is canceled pretty quickly.
Now matter how many people post it, or how pretty the language is that you use to explain it, all I keep reading is the fanboy whine, "He owes it to us!"
[madcougar added to his post while I was replying]



