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Oh man, if Matt were to put Enzo out for Enzo's "just being real" revelation to Matt, that's some crazy karma at work.

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Well it's not like he's picking Matt over a non Brigade member. I think Matt knew the deal he was facing did he not have the DPOV. If anything it should let him know where he sits in the group, but I don't think he'll really strike out for vengeance for them HAVING to pick him or Lane.

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I almost hate to say it but I think I'm out of watching AD now. I just can't keep up with it anymore. I had to leave town for 3 days and I had a large chunk of them even before that and I'm now 8 episodes behind. I just can't see myself trying to catch up with it. I even have the last 4(will be 5 in 30min) of the regular shows to watch.

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Just fast forward through the Brigade playing pool and Brittany and Ragan spouting infantile insults about Brendan and you can watch everything else in about 10 minutes.

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Brendon talking about high school, "We would egg each other's houses...like hardcore stuff...like big time." :lol:

Needle Dick is hardcore!

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They seriously need to get rid of the pool table next season.

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They should replace it with ping pong.

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^^^ Or a boxing bag with removable faces of the other HG's. That would be therapeutic (for HG's and viewers alike).

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Brendon and Enzo are on the block, with Enzo getting an assurance in front of everybody from Brit that he's 100% safe. If Brendon wins POV Matt is the backdoor replacement (per Britney's assurances to Enzo). So... :(

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I hope that Brendon wins POV and Matt goes.

I really dont get despite the fact Lane and Hayden are both genuinely the 2 nicest guys and also are by far playing the 2 best games in the cast and all we get is Enzo blowing smoke , Matt's delusions of grandeur and Ragan self righteousness being hidden by fan favorite edits.

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The silent power struggle in the Brigade is now on. It will be a battle between Hayden and Matt. Both are waiting to see who will make the first strike and come in the open. Both are working on the people in the background but have not spoken out. It seems like Matt's days are numbered unless he wins HOH/POV.

Hayden has been saying to Lane that he wants to take him to the F2. If Hayden is going to win POV this week, he wants to use it on Brendon. This will force Britney to put Matt as the replacement nominee. Then Lane, Hayden, and Brendon can vote him out.

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What power struggle????? That's like saying there is a power struggle btwn a dog and a fire hydrant.

Britney wants a f3 btwn herself Lane and Hayden. Ragan wants Hayden as the 3rd in the Brokeback alliance. Hayden also has the side jock alliance with Enzo and Brenda. He is easily the most golden person in the house.

The Brigade all want Matt out this week and he is likely going up and going home if Brenda wins veto.

Matt wasted the dpov on getting rid of the weakest player . He has isolated himself with Ragan, trying to pull Britney(Who does not trust him) and it's a losing effort that completely pissed off Hayden and Enzo.

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Matt is easily the most accomplished player in the house, and Ragan isn't self righteous, everything he's said is true. So someone who speaks there mind when there being bullied is self righteous in your world?

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I would say someone who spends half their time in the house talking shit behinds everyone's back with Britney doesn't have the moral highground to hang his hat on even with someone like Rachel. Good for him for not letting her push him around but his behaivor in the house is just as awful.

And how is Matt the most accomplished player. The Brigade is throwing him under the bus and he is clueless about his 4th wheel status. His only shot at making it to the end now is the noms staying put this week and him and Ragan winning the next 2 hoh comps.

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Wait..how does he not know he's the 4th wheel? Didn't he pretty much find that out this past week when Enzo/Hayden told him they were keeping Lane over him? I think he's well aware of where he sits with those guys.

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"I guess I know the pecking order."- Matt on Thursday night.

He's the most accomplished player in that he's responsible for evicting Andrew, and for splitting up the power couple. I don't think he's the best player in the house, but he's definitely the most accomplished out all the current HG's.

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If he did know all the more reason it was insanely stupid not to strike first Thursday. They are all already gunning for him hardcore even Lane .

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Matt's target should have been Hayden and not Brendon. His days are numbered until he gets rid of Hayden. Hayden has been doing a good job of pulling all the people together to go against Matt. The only ally left for Matt is Ragan.

If Hayden plays this game correctly, he is all set to win because he has played a good social game. He has to make sure that he has no hand in getting rid of Brendon because he can secure the two votes in the jury. I liked Hayden's idea of keeping Brendon around because he knows Brendon will go after Britney, Ragan, and Matt, and this way Hayden's hands are clean to get their jury votes.

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Not if he's in the final two with Enzo...

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I don't see how Matt blew it by picking Kathy over Hayden to go up. You don't think the hatred and distrust of Matt wouldn't be magnified x10 from the other Brigade members and Britney? Matt knows Brendan won't deal with him, or if he does, it'll all be B.S. All Matt would have would be Regan and *maybe* Kathy. To the rest of the house, he would be Dead Man Walking and be gone at the first opportunity. Yeah he's on shaky ground right now, but it's more stable than it would have been if he ousted Hayden.

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Exactly. Honestly if they do pull an out in the open backstab move against Matt I see him totally outing the Brigade anyway. I would. He would have nothing to lose at that point and be totally betrayed. It's down to so few people now that that may not matter, but it would could still cause some damage to Hayden/Enzo/Lane.

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If Matt had ousted Hayden Thursday, the only two HOH contenders in the house who wouldn't have nominated him yesterday were Matt and Ragan, and Ragan would have questioned the Hayden decision. Besides, Hayden is playing a really good social game, if Matt had targeted anyone in the Brigade as of last Thursday it would have been Enzo.

Kathy was the best of a lot of bad choices. I think he thought he could survive this week. Even if he goes up, his goose isn't completely cooked (as long as he's not against Enzo). I still think he can sway Lane (and thus Britney) if it comes to it.

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Had he eliminated Enzo Thursday Ragan and Britney would have been happy,Hayden and Lane would have been pissed but still thrown the HOH and Kathy would be the only person going after him and he would now be in a much better position in the house.

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Hayden and Lane would have turned Britney against Matt. They pretty much managed to do it yesterday with him putting up Kathy, but at least he has a chance this way.

Britney thinks she aligned with Lane and Hayden; she would have done what they told her to do, and they would have had her put Matt up.

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They would have regardless of what Matt did Thursday.

As it is now Lane and Hayden offered her a f3 deal and she has accepted it so unless Matt wins POV because of a backdoor plan his goose is cooked Thursday. As it is he has no clue Britney would put him up over Hayden so he may not even try to win POV.