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At this point, I think I'm rooting against Enzo to win the game.

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And everybody knows nothing could possibly change over the course of 4 days in the house. :lol: If Matt was on the line and knew it, I see him pulling out the stops. Don't forget Ragan would also be there working on Brit as well. Should at least make for an entertaining week if that is the case.

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I don't think Matt fully realized things were as far gone with the Brigade as they are. Hayden is a playing a good game. It's easy to critcize when you know Hayden's a shady character b/c you can see all his wheeling and dealing. If Matt had known that, I'm sure he wouldn't have thrown the HOH. As Matt saw it, I'm sure he thought he could get at least another week out of the Brigade.

If Enzo had left Thursday, Hayden and Lane would have known that Matt had openly betrayed them and would have acted immediately to get him on the block. He may end up being the replacment nominee now, but he isn't on the block yet, much less out of the house.

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I'm at that point in the season where I don't know who I want to win. Before the season started and just going off of the bio's on CBS.com, I wanted Matt to win. Two weeks after the season started I really liked Enzo. Now Enzo's lack of game play annoys me, so I don't really care if he wins anymore. The only tangent thing about this season for me is rooting against Brendon/Rachel. I guess right now for me it's between Hayden and Lane, but I don't have a strong opinion on either of them at this point.

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Brendon wins POV! Ever better according to Joker's (an aftermath of the yet-unseen POV competition):

Sat 4:04 PM BBT Brendon & Britney will be handcuffed together for 24 hrs NT - Zazny

Now that's worth subscribing to the feeds for. :D Goodbye Matt! :)

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God damn it.

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Go to Joker's (or the feeds) from around 4:03PM on and read/watch Brtiney totally losing it. She wants to quit, her only drive to win HOH was to get Brendon out (no surprise if you saw Friday's "After Dark" show when she was trash-talking Bren/Rach alone to the feed viewers; she's obsessed with these two!), she feels used by every other HG to do their dirty work (she's right)... Brit's on full-on meltdown mode. Love it! :p

Sat 4:10 PM BBT Britney: I'm pissed...everyone says they are gonna back me up - Cindy
but you all have your plan for Matt and you all throw the comp and took prizes

Lane: I buzzed in on everything, but only got the phone call
Hayden put down 10 for the 5000 and didn't win it. Who else is left? Matt thinks he is safe so he went for the $5,000

Brit: If Ragan wins POV I am gone

Lane Then tell me what you want to do

Brit: You don't understand, Brendon hasn't come after you, he hasn't come after you. You all are friends with him and it doesn't effect you all. I don't, its uncomfortable for me

Lane: You want him out bad, I get that.

Brit: It just sucks, I just wanted to get HOH and get Brendon out and ...
but you all have your plan for Matt and you all throw the comp and took prizes

Lane: I buzzed in on everything, but only got the phone call
Hayden put down 10 for the 5000 and didn't win it. Who else is left? Matt thinks he is safe so he went for the $5,000

Brit: If Ragan wins POV I am gone

Lane Then tell me what you want to do

Brit: You don't understand, Brendon hasn't come after you, he hasn't come after you. You all are friends with him and it doesn't effect you all. I don't, its uncomfortable for me

Lane: You want him out bad, I get that.

Brit: It just sucks, I just wanted to get HOH and get Brendon out and now I'm put in such a bad predicament...I feel used. I'm gonna have no votes in the jury house..I have no chance of winning this game. All I am doing is the dirty work

Lane: You aren't doing anyone's dirty work

Brit: I'm not jealous that you got a phone call from home. I would like to go to Hawaii. I didn't get anything...I got nothing and ended w/50 pts.

Matt just swore on his wife's life

Lane: He swore on his wifes life that he's not the sabatuer

Brit: Brendon is coming after me, I don't want to go home
Brendon wins everything. I could have 5 people fighting for me and he wins, so it doesn't matter.

Lane: All those people are playing for Ragan not to win. It won't be another puzzle...all you have left is skill and questions

Brit: Ragan knows his stuff

lane: I think everyone does...they just don't show it

Brit: Why did he pick me for the 24 hours

Lane: Im not a big fan of brendon, but hes not doing it to annoy you

Brit: I also have Ragan, do you know how mad Ragan is gonna be at me. He doens't believe this whole Matt is a bad person conspiracy.

Lane: We have 6 people after this, someone is gonna get pissed. There are 5 after this

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Rachel getting eliminated was the best thing that ever happened to Brendon; ditto for Kristen and Hayden (and, now that I think about it, Jeff and Jordan from last season). When these showmance couples lose their main squeezes they become focused HOH/POV winning machines (or, in the case of Hayden, a better bullshitter and behind-the-scenes man). IF there's anybody at the JH that can judge fairly the game and Brendon makes it to final two it'll be hard to argue that he doesn't deserve it.

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This completely random and probably old new to most of you, but what ever ended up happening to Adam from season 9? Was he ever convicted?

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I am looking forward to the various implosions of the last few weeks of the show, but I seriously can't stand Brendan. Would've been nice for him to be gone this week.

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:lol: :lol: :lol: Brittany's biggest problem now: Where to find more hours in the day to bitch and moan about Brendan. Ditto for that supreme hypocrite Ragan.

Then again, this means now I have to keep watching. :(

At this point I think Brendan may make it to the final two as people start thinking about end game and who they want to go against. Brendan has become a competition beast and almost no one would vote him a winner, so he would be an ideal person to make a F2 deal with.

Wonder if Matt will shake the dummy's hand as he leaves this week?

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You see, like Blue Man said earlier I was (and still mostly am) rooting for nobody in particular. That's actually made the game more fun to me to follow along this year because when you have an emotional stake on a "BB" player doing well your heart can be crushed when they fall short (like mine did last year when Michelle was eliminated). Since I don't care who wins/loses I'm just watching the rats run from one side of the ship to the other based on who wins/loses each HOH/POV. That said, how can you not be impressed with Brendon having virtually an entire house full of people that either hate him (Brit, Ragan) or use him (The Brigade) and he's come ahead in the past two POV's when his back was up against the wall? Double Elimination will probably be the end of him (if Ragan or Britney win) but that he's made it this far when he's had the house's biggest target for so long is kind-of like a small ("BB" producer-assisted) TV miracle.

Yes, it'd be a little bit like Inspector Clouseau getting away from an assasination attempt unharmed if Brendo were to make Final 2 unaware that The Brigade is laughing in his face. But Brendon, clueless moron that he might be, seems like a good guy that has fallen in love with a girl that's all wrong for him. How can you not root for a guy this dumb (and strong)?

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Because he's a fucking retard. :lol:

And Brit/Ragan are dead on about him being a bully and only saying shit to those he can intimidate. Of course the rest of the house are pussies because they let those situations happen as well.

However, after that 2 paragraph love fest I find it hard to believe you're not pulling for Brendan. ;)

Honestly I don't care who wins. I certainly have no favorite going into the final stretch, and I'm going to love to see them tear each other apart, but all that aside I do have one I hate.

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Not to get into Big Brother consipiracy theories, but I figured as soon as he went up that Brendon would win veto. I don't know what the competition was or if it was even possible for production to manipulate, but I hate when the show is this obvious.

How does Matt stay? This is the worst nightmare scenario for him b/c it's happening in a way where he doesn't know which member of the Brigade is really screwing him. That's why I knew Hayden wouldn't win veto. He didn't want to make that call. I guess Matt can take solace in the fact that he won $5,000, b/c that's all he's going to win.

Outing the Brigade is pretty useless. It might make a lot of smoke, but it's not going to change Hayden's vote; it will solidify Lane's vote, and it's not going to change Brendon's vote (b/c Brendon is playing personal and can't stand Matt b/c he got out the love of his life. Why does Matt hate love so much?)

In order to stay, he needs Lane and Britney. In order to get Lane and Britney, he has to compare notes on Hayden with Lane. I don't think it's possible, but he'll have four days to figure it out.

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If Matt can talk other HG's for voting Enzo out (can't wait for tonight's "After Dark" to see this Jersey guy wearing a penguin suit; shades of last year's Big Banana costume :D) he should get at least $50K for bullshitting up a storm.

I'm not rooting for Brendon as much as I'm rooting for everybody else's wish to get rid of him to be constantly upset. Britney's post-POV meltdown in HOH room reminded me so much of that scene in "Batman Forever" when The Riddler, pissed off that Batman survived yet another killing attempt, yells out frustrated 'why don't you just die?' and shoots a missile at Bats. Only difference is Britney doesn't have an RPG and her running make-up looks worse than Tommy Lee Jones' face! :p Brendon winning keeps his enemies banging their heads against the walls and that, my friend, that's entertainment! :)

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But the thing is half the houseguests don't want him gone. Hayden and Enzo absolutely don't want him gone. Brendon thinks they are loyal to him, and he's a target for the rest of the sheep. They also want to use the big dummy to get out the rest of the house for them. They want him to eliminate Ragan and/or Britney so they don't have to. Using Britney to get rid of Matt is awesome for them. No blood! I don't think Lane cares either way (which a mistake on his part, but we'll see if it costs him in a few weeks).

Now, of course, Britney and Ragan want him gone, b/c Brendon is the worst kind of bully douchebag. He's not picking on Lane; he's not picking on Enzo; he's not picking on Hayden. The last time I checked the vote to evict Rachel was 6-0, and Matt didn't vote.

Maybe this house brings out the worst in him, but Brendon has always come across as a controlling pedantic tool.

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Hayden and Lane have a final two deal. Hayden's made it clear that he doesn't want to go to the final two with Enzo, because everyone in the house loves Enzo.

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Hayden has a deal of some sort with everyone. The deal with Lane might be the "real deal", but I'm sure he's keeping his options open.

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They have 5 days. I'm hoping that some permeation of conversation pairings between Matt/Ragan/Brittney will spark some notion that Hayden/Enzo are basically throwing Matt under the bus. For instance Ragan/Brit talking and if she lets any of it out that will be going right back to Matt. It'll of course be too late for him, but it'd be nice to point out to Brit that his team of dudes from week 2 sold him out so maybe she can let him know how the deal she made 48 hours ago goes. :lol:

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Britney has no good options left for nomination (only Hayden on the block would force other HG's to vote out Enzo) and she can't compete in the next HOH Thursday night for DE. She's a bigger sitting duck than the one in the BB House pool.

Edit: and let me be the first on this thread to wish Britney a belated HAPPY BIRTHDAY (on Monday)!!!! :p

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It was a who wants it more veto. Not sure if it was the beyond rigged one Janelle won in All Stars or like the one Jen won in BB8 and that Chicken George won in Alll Stars where it wasn't as rigged but no way anyone other then a nominee was gonna give up everything to win it.

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Wtf

Why would he deserve it because he is a half wit who had Rachel think for him and then decided to let Enzo and Hayden think for him when she was voted out.

Or perhaps you think the gentlemanly way he has treated Ragan and the female contestants merits their votes?

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Motivation (Rachel for Brendon and $500K for everybody else; Brendon said as much last night to Enzo during "After Dark") doesn't matter, winning competitions when you have to does. And with a house full of people that either use or hate him (granted, we're talking about one of worst bunch of "BB" HG's ever!) it would be no small task to make it to Final 2 with so much luggage.

He hasn't layed a finger on any on these people and has told them to their faces what he thinks of them, something Britney and Ragan need a fake talk show (or a room without Brendon in the vecinity) to do because they won't go up to Brendon and tell him to his face what they think of him. If these self-professed "BB" loyal viewers see past their emotions and realize the Herculian task it would be for Brendon to reach Final 2 with so much arrows aimed at him (assuming, of course, he survives DE next Thursday) Brendon should have EARNED their votes. Remember Natalie from last year's "BB" asssumed she had the JH in her back pocket against Jordan, but Jessie and most of her alliance turned around and voted against her. Maybe being away from the BB House and in the relaxing JH location causes these folks to look at things differently.

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HOLY SHIT! :D From Joker's:

6:30 PM feeds back, Britney opened Pandoras' box and it was Jessie from last season!
6:31 PM Brit open Pandora Box and had to spend time with Jessie NT
6:32 PM While Brit was locked with Jessie all the other HG got to have a party, and feast on tons of food with hoola girls NT
6:32 PM HN got to eat a feast while Brit was lock in HOH NT
6:32 PM Britney had to work out with Jessie while others have BBQ NT
6:33 PM PB! Britney was locked in PB room with Jessie, Mr. Pectacular.
Jessie said all kinds of things about himself like he was the cutest G ever. He is the strongest and he was in Mr. by Universe stuff. He avoided answering questions by talking all about himself. She said he was AWFUL. He made fun of her. She said she she said stuff about Jeff and Russell.

She could watch them on the TV.

* * * * *

Who did Britney piss off over at the BB production staff? At least, for once, the house (including the Have Nots) got the better end of the Pandora's Box deal. :p

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What Herculian task ?

Rachel was carrying him through this game the first few weeks and Enzo and Hayden want to keep him around since she left because he is a f2 goat who will take their targets out.