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Old 04-06-10, 01:44 PM
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Re: Breaking Bad -- "I.F.T." -- 04/04/10

Originally Posted by Dr Mabuse
Oh those poor women...

I guess Skylar throwing herself at her boss last season(before she knew anything) so she could screw him early on was an accident? Is that how loyal, wholesome, loving women react to their dying husband maybe acting a little funny? They go get a job with an old flame so they can screw him? Then take everything away from the man hoping he'll just hurry up and die? Yeah she's a peach.

All because her 'no good' husband takes extreme measures to provide for them/her before he dies. The bastard! Oh yeah and tries to protect her from knowing how he did it for her own good. What a rotten SOB!

Lemme guess, Skylar doing the same thing to her son is noble right? Deceiving him to protect him from the truth? You know, how she's doing the very same thing she's supposedly so righteously indignant about? I suppose she's going to stop lying to him about fucking around and screwing over his dad any day now?

Walt's a pansy now and it's pathetic. Skylar's a selfish bitch who was unfaithful, selfish, and rotten when her dying husband needed and cared for her most.
Wow. You're a little too pissed at these make believe people. Both characters, Skyler and Walt, are far more realistic and nuanced than you are giving them credit for.

Skyler has reacted to Walt the way many flawed, real people would have. Many people would be frantic when their spouse refused cancer treatment. Many people would be angry at their cancer patient spouse trying to refuse having the treatment paid for. Many people would be furious to discover lies upon lies that Walt told Skyler. Never telling his own mother he had cancer, using the sweat lodge as another excuse to be gone, all to deal crystal meth putting his family at risk when he could have had the whole thing paid for except for his idiotic pride, etc. etc. etc. And for two seasons Skyler was deeplyconflicted about being angry at a man she loved with possibly terminal cancer who lied and lied and lied. Not a bitch looking to get out ASAP.

Many people would go back to an old boss for a job when their finances looked insurmountable. Many people have been tempted by a workplace romance, especially when they felt betrayed by their longtime spouse. Even without that betrayal, Skyler's relationship with Ted is a very realistic situation. You must not have noticed the scenes where Skyler struggled with her temptations. You know, like a person.

And many people would react exactly like Skyler did when it all clicked for her. She is a very well written character riddled with flaws like all the other characters on the show. Not a cardboard cutout with the word BITCH spray painted all over it.

Walt brought this on himself. He isn't a hardcore badass, never has been throughout the show. His inner conflicts have also been shown realistically, right down to his superb portrayal of letting the girl die.

It's a credit to the creators that there are such varied reactions to the characters. This isn't a show where you're supposed to like everyone or everything they do. Personally I find myself empathizing with most of the characters most of the time, and wondering what I would do in their shoes. Sometimes I think I would make the wrong choice right along with them.
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Re: Breaking Bad -- "I.F.T." -- 04/04/10

^ well said
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I agree well said! She did what most women do in that situation use her vagina (either clamp it down or open it up to other men) since she was powerless to do anything else.
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Re: Breaking Bad -- "I.F.T." -- 04/04/10

Originally Posted by Septemberbaby
I didn't see him try another door.. and I didn't hear him say that he needed to
use this bathroom because Walt Jr is in the other one.
I never said he claimed Jr was in the other BR I did see him try a door in the hallway.
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Re: Breaking Bad -- "I.F.T." -- 04/04/10

Originally Posted by Larry C.
I never said he claimed Jr was in the other BR I did see him try a door in the hallway.
I didn't mean to imply that you did claim that... I just meant we didn't hear
a valid reason from him. I missed him trying the other door.

Also, there was a scene just like this one on Friday Night Lights and to be honest, they did it better. It was more believable.


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Re: Breaking Bad -- "I.F.T." -- 04/04/10

Man, one of those bar guys looked exactly like UFC fighter Keith Jardine.
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Re: Breaking Bad -- "I.F.T." -- 04/04/10

Originally Posted by Deftones
Man, one of those bar guys looked exactly like UFC fighter Keith Jardine.
It was.

The 'Dean of Mean' himself, I posted about it earlier.

A bunch of those guys train here because of the mile high air, they acclimate and then can fight longer in sea level air.
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Re: Breaking Bad -- "I.F.T." -- 04/04/10

Originally Posted by SpinalGuffman
Wow. You're a little too pissed at these make believe people. Both characters, Skyler and Walt, are far more realistic and nuanced than you are giving them credit for.

Skyler has reacted to Walt the way many flawed, real people would have. Many people would be frantic when their spouse refused cancer treatment. Many people would be angry at their cancer patient spouse trying to refuse having the treatment paid for. Many people would be furious to discover lies upon lies that Walt told Skyler. Never telling his own mother he had cancer, using the sweat lodge as another excuse to be gone, all to deal crystal meth putting his family at risk when he could have had the whole thing paid for except for his idiotic pride, etc. etc. etc. And for two seasons Skyler was deeplyconflicted about being angry at a man she loved with possibly terminal cancer who lied and lied and lied. Not a bitch looking to get out ASAP.

Many people would go back to an old boss for a job when their finances looked insurmountable. Many people have been tempted by a workplace romance, especially when they felt betrayed by their longtime spouse. Even without that betrayal, Skyler's relationship with Ted is a very realistic situation. You must not have noticed the scenes where Skyler struggled with her temptations. You know, like a person.

And many people would react exactly like Skyler did when it all clicked for her. She is a very well written character riddled with flaws like all the other characters on the show. Not a cardboard cutout with the word BITCH spray painted all over it.

Walt brought this on himself. He isn't a hardcore badass, never has been throughout the show. His inner conflicts have also been shown realistically, right down to his superb portrayal of letting the girl die.

It's a credit to the creators that there are such varied reactions to the characters. This isn't a show where you're supposed to like everyone or everything they do. Personally I find myself empathizing with most of the characters most of the time, and wondering what I would do in their shoes. Sometimes I think I would make the wrong choice right along with them.
Okay that's well said...

I still say she's a rotten bitch!

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Re: Breaking Bad -- "I.F.T." -- 04/04/10

Originally Posted by Dr Mabuse
It was.

The 'Dean of Mean' himself, I posted about it earlier.

A bunch of those guys train here because of the mile high air, they acclimate and then can fight longer in sea level air.
i didn't see your post b/c it was hidden.
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Re: Breaking Bad -- "I.F.T." -- 04/04/10

I'm often not sure when to spoil stuff in this forum, so I err on the side of caution.
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Re: Breaking Bad -- "I.F.T." -- 04/04/10

Originally Posted by Dr Mabuse
Okay that's well said...

I still say she's a rotten bitch!

Thanks. I must admit one of the show's few false notes for me was the happy birthday song -- pregnant and all, she was definitely a bitch in that moment...
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Re: Breaking Bad -- "I.F.T." -- 04/04/10

Originally Posted by Tommy Ceez
Problem is this. If Jesse can pull off cooking like Walt, he signs Walts death warrant.

He has no wife problem, he's not dying, and Walt can be easily handed over to the Cartel for the revenge.
Remeber though, Gus doesnt like Walt. He sees him as a junkie and a liability.
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Re: Breaking Bad -- "I.F.T." -- 04/04/10

Originally Posted by Thrush
Remeber though, Gus doesnt like Walt. He sees him as a junkie and a liability.
Jesse, but I see your point
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Re: Breaking Bad -- "I.F.T." -- 04/04/10

Originally Posted by Dr Mabuse
Okay that's well said...

I still say she's a rotten bitch!

Ditto. And Spinal's comments are good too--a lot more insightful than just saying "If you don't like Skyler or what she did you hate women."
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Re: Breaking Bad -- "I.F.T." -- 04/04/10

I think Gus likes Walt. That is why he fought to keep him alive, he also puts out a superior product. Walt is the kind of man Gus wants to do business with not psychos like Tuco and the cousins. Even though he is dying, his marriage is falling apart, and Hank is on his tail Walt still has something to lose and Gus likes that.
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Re: Breaking Bad -- "I.F.T." -- 04/04/10

Yeah, besides his drugs, I'm pretty sure the way Walt respected Gus when he met with him last went a long ways in having Gus look out for him.
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Re: Breaking Bad -- "I.F.T." -- 04/04/10

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Am I the only one who sees that Gustavo is latino?

He is dark skinned and all but I've never got any inkling from him that he is non-latino, so the whole "speaking spanish" thing seems natural to me.
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Re: Breaking Bad -- "I.F.T." -- 04/04/10

He's Yaphet Kotto's son!
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Re: Breaking Bad -- "I.F.T." -- 04/04/10

I'm a bit behind the game here. I just watched BB S1 & S2 and am catching up on S3 now. The show is great, but man I'm really hating Skylar now. She is such a hypocritical bitch. Ah well, I'm headed back to finish this episode.
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Re: Breaking Bad -- "I.F.T." -- 04/04/10

Originally Posted by jrsl76
I'm a bit behind the game here. I just watched BB S1 & S2 and am catching up on S3 now. The show is great, but man I'm really hating Skylar now. She is such a hypocritical bitch. Ah well, I'm headed back to finish this episode.
I don't think Walt and Skyler's marriage was as stable as it seemed to be at the beginning of the series. Skyler's reaction after she found out Walt's secret point to troubles that go deeper. Just my opinion.

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