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Old 03-22-10 | 03:25 PM
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Re: The Pacific -- "Part Two" -- 03/21/10

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Basilone.

Is it really that hard to tell these two apart?
I don't know the names of any of them.
Old 03-22-10 | 03:26 PM
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Was it Basilone that cleared that pile of corpses? That had my dad and I cheering as much as the Terps near comeback.
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Re: The Pacific -- "Part Two" -- 03/21/10

Originally Posted by FRwL
Did anyone catch the first episode on channel 101 on directtv? i dont have HBO but was really surprised that i did a doubletake last time that it was actually showing on that channel like nothing. Is it just for the first episode or is the whole mini series airing on there?
That was just the first episode. To entice you to subcribe to HBO if you want to see subsequent episodes. I have to say it worked, at least for me.
Old 03-22-10 | 03:53 PM
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Re: The Pacific -- "Part Two" -- 03/21/10

Originally Posted by sven
Basilone.

Is it really that hard to tell these two apart?
I do know what Leckie looks like (Chase from 24)

I just couldn't remember if it was him who got burned or Basilone. I guess Basilone is the machine gunner right? If so then it makes sense that he would be the one who got burned. Leckie doesn't have a specific job like Basilone?

But, other than being the machine gunner, I guess I can't tell Basilone apart from anybody other than Leckie...so far. I remember it took a while for me to tell many of the people in Band of Brothers apart too.
Old 03-22-10 | 03:58 PM
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I keep wanting to call Basilone 'Falsone' since that was the characer Jon Seda played on Homicide LOTS (and the only person I recognize on this except for the Colonel who also played the Colonel in Die Hard II).
Old 03-22-10 | 04:25 PM
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I don't know the names of any of them.
One is named "Peaches"; the other one is named "Old Faithful".
Old 03-22-10 | 04:29 PM
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Re: The Pacific -- "Part Two" -- 03/21/10

Originally Posted by sven
Basilone.

Is it really that hard to tell these two apart?
Yes
Old 03-22-10 | 05:04 PM
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I enjoyed the daytime scenes. But the nighttime battle didn't do anything for me. I couldn't see anything. Had no idea what was going on.
Old 03-22-10 | 06:09 PM
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I just finished reading the Guadalcanal part of the Chesty Puller biography "Marine!" and this episode followed the book almost exactly with many of the lines of dialogue matching up perfectly. I would have had a hard time following along if I hadn't just read the book though as the night battles were just sheer chaos.
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Re: The Pacific -- "Part Two" -- 03/21/10

Originally Posted by superdeluxe
Ok.

So questions.

Spoiler:

Was the guy that got shot in the neck, was he the one that's friends with the guy that had heart trouble?

Is Chase from 24's group of guys...in a different unit then the NCO trio? (now down to 2 with gonzalez dying last night).

I never see them together..so I wonder if they are in a different unit.
Now that somebody has said that Chase from 24 is Leckie I can answer your second question. Both units are in the 1st Marine Division, but Basilone's unit is in a different regiment than Leckie's. In the first episode Basilone's unit showed up a little late to Guadalcanal, and as they walked by Leckie's unit who had been there for a little while they asked why it took them so long to arrive. IIRC, Basilone said something like "don't worry, the 7th marines are here now." That is his regiment.

This link should help people put some names to the faces: http://www.hbo.com/#/the-pacific/cas...rew/index.html
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Re: The Pacific -- "Part Two" -- 03/21/10

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I just couldn't remember if it was him who got burned or Basilone. I guess Basilone is the machine gunner right? If so then it makes sense that he would be the one who got burned. Leckie doesn't have a specific job like Basilone?
Not to confuse you, but both Basilone and Leckie are machine gunners. In the first episode we saw Leckie "turkey shoot" the Japanese with his machine gun at Alligator Creek. The next day the Japanese soldier faked being injured and blew up a grenade next to the medic. Leckie was the machine gunner who took down the few Japanese soldiers who charged at the Marines after the grenade incident. When one Japanese solider was left standing and wanting to die, Leckie stood up from behind his machine gun and shot him with a pistol.

In episode two we saw Basilone do his work with his machine gun. He injured his arm when he couldn't find his glove to carry the gun.
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Originally Posted by TruGator
Not to confuse you, but both Basilone and Leckie are machine gunners. In the first episode we saw Leckie "turkey shoot" the Japanese with his machine gun at Alligator Creek. The next day the Japanese soldier faked being injured and blew up a grenade next to the medic. Leckie was the machine gunner who took down the few Japanese soldiers who charged at the Marines after the grenade incident. When one Japanese solider was left standing and wanting to die, Leckie stood up from behind his machine gun and shot him with a pistol.

In episode two we saw Basilone do his work with his machine gun. He injured his arm when he couldn't find his glove to carry the gun.
Thanks for the clarification.
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I enjoyed the daytime scenes. But the nighttime battle didn't do anything for me. I couldn't see anything. Had no idea what was going on.
No offense, but what do you really need to see or know what's going on?

It's not really necessary to know what's going on. All you needed to know was that wave after wave of Japanese troops were advancing and the marines were just trying to kill as many as possible and stay alive. That's really all that happened.
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Re: The Pacific -- "Part Two" -- 03/21/10

Originally Posted by DJariya
The Pacific

Synopsis:

Spoiler:
The fighting continues for the 1st Marine Division on Guadalcanal through the end of 1942, including machine gunner John Basilone's heroics during a desperate defense of the airfield by Lt. Col. "Chesty" Puller's outnumbered 7th Marine Regiment.


I'm going to watch the premiere on HBO's website, which I'm surprised to see there. If I really love it, then I may consider investing the $45 or so to watch the rest for 3 months. Otherwise, I will wait until it comes out on DVD in November.
Cool, I know what I am doing when I go to the Hotel tonight - on a business trip for a week. Thanks!
Old 03-22-10 | 09:20 PM
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Re: The Pacific -- "Part Two" -- 03/21/10

during the long gunfight did it seem like it was going from daytime to nightime to anyone else?
Old 03-22-10 | 09:46 PM
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Re: The Pacific -- "Part Two" -- 03/21/10

Originally Posted by riotinmyskull
during the long gunfight did it seem like it was going from daytime to nightime to anyone else?
that was the result of the flares being shot into the sky so that the Marines could see where the Japs were coming from.
Old 03-22-10 | 10:46 PM
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Re: The Pacific -- "Part Two" -- 03/21/10

Famous painting of John Basilone inspired by the same events depicted in this episode:

Old 03-22-10 | 11:58 PM
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I read With the Old Breed, and while it did not have a lot if action, the nastiness ad horrors it describes will be brutal and incredible in HD. I remember a pasage talking about the flies having so many corpses to feed on a being so bloated with blood they could not even fly.
And I agree the next episode does not look that great, I really prefer to see the soldiers in country, the raid, peaches and same mundane stuff in BoB were great.
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Originally Posted by Big Worms
Band of Brothers was the same way.
Huh? Several episodes of BoB were over an hour. I don't care enough to dig out my DVDs, but Wiki and IMDB both list the total running time for all ten episodes at 705 minutes, so 70.5 minutes per episode average.
Old 03-23-10 | 03:29 AM
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This show has been good but a little disappointing so far. It seems a little soap-operaish compared to BoB... more cable-TVish than a normal HBO show. I don't know if it's the writing or the acting, but I'm not buying into the characters yet.
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Originally Posted by FantasticVSDoom
Another good ep... Brings up a question I have since I dont know economics of the military and what not. But this is the third time in the past few months Ive seen/read this, but why does one arm of the military (the Army in each case) seem to always have better supplies/money than another (the Marines in each case as well)? Last night it was the case, I recently seen it mentioned in a movie I was watching (possibly the Hurt Locker but cant remember) and also mentioned in a book I was reading (joker One). Just something I don't know anything about really and really had me thinking last night.
One of the simple answers: The Navy gets to play with all the money first, and then spend it on Marines.

Also, the Army still does most of the ground-fighting. Now, with that in mind, try and imagine some of the internecine battles individual units in the Army have with one another over money, supplies, training time, etc.
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They have added more characters to the cast and crew page on HBO's website.
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Originally Posted by whoopdido
No offense, but what do you really need to see or know what's going on?

It's not really necessary to know what's going on. All you needed to know was that wave after wave of Japanese troops were advancing and the marines were just trying to kill as many as possible and stay alive. That's really all that happened.
Mainly because the sequence went on and on and on and on. As someone who didn't watch Band of Brothers and watched this only because everyone I work with rave about Band of Brothers so I assumed it was going to be classic. I'm sorry, but I'm not that into it at this point. I'm going to stick with it because I really like Tom Hanks' work. But, for me, who isn't a history buff I felt like I was going to miss something important and couldn't see anything or figure out who was doing what.
Old 03-23-10 | 08:27 AM
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Re: The Pacific -- "Part Two" -- 03/21/10

I enjoyed this one more than the first. At least they had a few scenes to give these marines a little personality. But I also agree the night scenes, especially in the jungle, were a confusing mess. I just read an account of that battle on Basilone's wiki page and I don't think the episode did it justice.
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Re: The Pacific -- "Part Two" -- 03/21/10

Originally Posted by Rex Fenestrarum
Huh? Several episodes of BoB were over an hour. I don't care enough to dig out my DVDs, but Wiki and IMDB both list the total running time for all ten episodes at 705 minutes, so 70.5 minutes per episode average.
Not sure how they get that, but I watched BoB when it first aired on HBO, and no episode went past an hour.


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