LOST -- "What Kate Does" -- 02.09.2010
02-11-10 | 03:08 PM
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02-11-10 | 03:10 PM
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Re: LOST -- "What Kate Does" -- 02.09.2010
I don't know, maybe they could tack on a "5 years later" at the end of the last episode just to get some kind of resolution there.
02-11-10 | 03:10 PM
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Re: LOST -- "What Kate Does" -- 02.09.2010
Do you really think that stuff is insignificant?
02-11-10 | 03:37 PM
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Re: LOST -- "What Kate Does" -- 02.09.2010
The only way you can call it a throwaway shot is if you've seen the entire season up to and including the finale. If that's the case, I think some people on here have questions for you.
02-11-10 | 03:38 PM
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Re: LOST -- "What Kate Does" -- 02.09.2010
Then how do you propose they come together? The foundation of your logic is that they are discrete, so I can't see how based on that they can narratively come to a head without one of them being a waste of time....
02-11-10 | 04:15 PM
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Re: LOST -- "What Kate Does" -- 02.09.2010
When Flocke promises to "tell everything" then we damn better be able to hear it.
02-11-10 | 04:15 PM
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Re: LOST -- "What Kate Does" -- 02.09.2010
I have to wonder if any characters have been infected/claimed. A number of characters have been to shown to act erratically, like Michael. Charlie, back when he attacked Sun, is another, though he's a junkie and erratic behavior is the norm for those folks.
02-11-10 | 05:00 PM
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Re: LOST -- "What Kate Does" -- 02.09.2010
I do believe that they are separate though and I have faith that the writers will do something unexpected, making both timelines significant to each other.
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02-11-10 | 05:05 PM
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Re: LOST -- "What Kate Does" -- 02.09.2010
Then, when Widmore was exiled, he said to Ben - "I know you, boy... I know what you are..."
Ben's behavior is quite erractic.
02-11-10 | 05:45 PM
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Re: LOST -- "What Kate Does" -- 02.09.2010
They have to be separate timelines.
The only way O815 didn't crash in 2004 was because the bomb was exploded in 1977. The only way the bomb exploded in 1977 was because Jack, Kate, Hurley, and Sayid were pulled off A316 in 2007 with Faraday's plan.
If what happened in 1977 simply prevented what happened in 2004, what happened in 1977 would never have happened and O815 would have crashed again in 2004.
A single timeline makes no sense. Those on the island have essentially martyred themselves to save their 2004 selves. Unfortunately, they're not aware that "It worked". Unfortunately for the O815 passengers that did land in "LA X", they don't know what they're missing and won't have the choice to go to the island since it's submerged.
Only we, the viewers, will be able to tell which outcome was better for which player.
Or, if any of it matters because of
The only way O815 didn't crash in 2004 was because the bomb was exploded in 1977. The only way the bomb exploded in 1977 was because Jack, Kate, Hurley, and Sayid were pulled off A316 in 2007 with Faraday's plan.
If what happened in 1977 simply prevented what happened in 2004, what happened in 1977 would never have happened and O815 would have crashed again in 2004.
A single timeline makes no sense. Those on the island have essentially martyred themselves to save their 2004 selves. Unfortunately, they're not aware that "It worked". Unfortunately for the O815 passengers that did land in "LA X", they don't know what they're missing and won't have the choice to go to the island since it's submerged.
Only we, the viewers, will be able to tell which outcome was better for which player.
Or, if any of it matters because of
02-11-10 | 06:41 PM
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Re: LOST -- "What Kate Does" -- 02.09.2010
The dialogue explicitly mentioned Sayid's "infection" and how the exact same thing happened to "Jack's sister." They then cut to a shot of Claire acting just like Rosseau.
Do we really need explicit dialogue that says Rousseau was "infected?"
Maybe it was an intentional misdirect that will be fleshed out in future episodes, but if Rousseau's never mentioned again, I think it's pretty safe to assume that she had what Sayid and Claire have.
Do we really need explicit dialogue that says Rousseau was "infected?"
Maybe it was an intentional misdirect that will be fleshed out in future episodes, but if Rousseau's never mentioned again, I think it's pretty safe to assume that she had what Sayid and Claire have.
02-11-10 | 07:33 PM
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Re: LOST -- "What Kate Does" -- 02.09.2010
There's some very distinct parallels to the two characters. Both lost a child. Both had to survive on the island for a number of years fending for themselves. Both set similar traps around the jungle. Both have crazy looking hair. Etc.
02-11-10 | 07:49 PM
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Re: LOST -- "What Kate Does" -- 02.09.2010
Exactly. The traps that Kate and the Others found were assumed, at first, to have been Rousseau's, but it seems clear to me that they were, in fact, set by Claire. That, combined with her aggressive behavior and slightly wild appearance are meant to convey the parallels between the two women's lives. It only seems logical that the infection is part of that.
02-11-10 | 07:49 PM
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02-11-10 | 08:01 PM
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Re: LOST -- "What Kate Does" -- 02.09.2010
They already stated the food drops will be expanded upon this season.
02-11-10 | 08:06 PM
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02-11-10 | 08:52 PM
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Re: LOST -- "What Kate Does" -- 02.09.2010
* I'm still anxious to find out the meaning behind the spacing in LA X.
**I do not subscribe to this theory, just thinking out loud.
02-11-10 | 11:00 PM
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Re: LOST -- "What Kate Does" -- 02.09.2010
I don't think Claire is infected but this could be the No-crash Claire we're seeing.
The last time we saw Claire on the island was in the cabin with Christian and she said she was with him. We know now that Jacob left that cabin after making contact with Locke ("help me") and broke the ring of powder that was protecting him. Moving on to the foot of the statue. Since then, Christian has been occupying the cabin talking for Jacob but really being the MiB. I don't know where this Claire is but the MiB probably disposed of her long ago.
If this is No-crash Claire then she can take her place. Gotta find Faraday and Eloise and catch a flight.
The last time we saw Claire on the island was in the cabin with Christian and she said she was with him. We know now that Jacob left that cabin after making contact with Locke ("help me") and broke the ring of powder that was protecting him. Moving on to the foot of the statue. Since then, Christian has been occupying the cabin talking for Jacob but really being the MiB. I don't know where this Claire is but the MiB probably disposed of her long ago.
If this is No-crash Claire then she can take her place. Gotta find Faraday and Eloise and catch a flight.
02-11-10 | 11:32 PM
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02-11-10 | 11:57 PM
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Re: LOST -- "What Kate Does" -- 02.09.2010
Dude. It was very obvious. The traps, living in the jungle, shooting hostiles. The NEW Rousseau
I'm sure Claire thinks her baby was stolen also.
I'm sure Claire thinks her baby was stolen also.
02-12-10 | 12:03 AM
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Re: LOST -- "What Kate Does" -- 02.09.2010
Traps could be leftovers from Rousseau. Living in the jungle? Not sure where that was said but the whole place is a jungle, and she's clearly one of the 'reanimated dead' like Christian so I don't think it matters where she lives. Shooting others, well I think that could just be MiB taking care of business.
I'm not saying it's NOT where they are going with it, but I do think it's still ambiguous at this point.
I'm not saying it's NOT where they are going with it, but I do think it's still ambiguous at this point.
02-12-10 | 12:25 AM
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Re: LOST -- "What Kate Does" -- 02.09.2010
Traps could be leftovers from Rousseau. Living in the jungle? Not sure where that was said but the whole place is a jungle, and she's clearly one of the 'reanimated dead' like Christian so I don't think it matters where she lives. Shooting others, well I think that could just be MiB taking care of business.
I'm not saying it's NOT where they are going with it, but I do think it's still ambiguous at this point.
I'm not saying it's NOT where they are going with it, but I do think it's still ambiguous at this point.
02-12-10 | 12:27 AM
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Re: LOST -- "What Kate Does" -- 02.09.2010
What about when Justin (great name by the way) dismissed it being Rousseau's because she's been dead for years. Then Aldo yells at him to shut up. I think he was about to say something important.
It's pretty clear that she's been living in the jungle just based on her appearance.
The missing baby thing is extremely important.
You may be right but I think all the clues are there for us to make this judgement right now.
It's pretty clear that she's been living in the jungle just based on her appearance.
The missing baby thing is extremely important.
You may be right but I think all the clues are there for us to make this judgement right now.