Sonic

Who's that?

Tracer Bullet

Leno?

Deftones

you need to bother reading up on this situation so you can see why you are wrong, which includes Jay's involvement before you make such a fuckheaded remark.

Deftones

RoyalTea

I just wonder what Leno's reaction would be if Conan hadn't said anything?

Right now, Leno's gotta be ecstatic, knowing that he'll get his old time slot back, AND it'll be "The Tonight Show" again for 1 hour. But if Conan had kept quiet and it looked like he'd suck it up an accept being pushed back to 12:05, would Leno be fine with having his show cut in half?

MvRojo

It's funny, I actually saw part of Carson Daly's show the other day and he doesn't even have an audience or studio anymore. Apparently, it's all on the street and he does interviews in bars/restaurants, and it's filmed all "gritty" with hand-held cameras.

Dan

As someone who has watched late night talk shows on and off for as long as I can remember, I'd have to say that Jay Leno ranks at the bottom of my list. I DID watch his monologue last night, and it was horrible. I rarely tuned into his "Tonight Show" and the only time I tuned into his primetime show was to see the interview with Kanye West. After the dust has settled, I can't imagine I'd have any reason to watch his show again. Unless he promises to kill himself while interviewing Joey Lawrence or something.

Right now, I like to DVR Conan's show and Craig Ferguson. When Conan's gone, I may start watching David Letterman again, but I'm not a big enough fan to DVR his show or watch it every night; just when I know a really good guest or band is on.

Long story short, I'm on Team Ferguson! Go Craig! I'm extremely disappointed that I didn't buy tickets to his stand-up show in my city next week.

WCChiCubsFan

I know more than enough about the situation. You on the other hand must live in a really pathetic world that can’t deal with reality. When you want to join us in the real world, please don’t. We don’t need such fuckhead thinking.

freshticles

Jay Leno is like the Mcdonalds of Comedy. He tastes like shit but people continue to eat there because they're unimaginitive and lazy morons.

aintnosin

The difference is that the Carson/Leno/Letterman battles were mostly behind closed doors. Most people didn't know until later what had gone on. On the other hand, the Leno/O'Brien debacle has played on on the public stage, so the public reaction could be different.

And lest anyone give a pass to Leno, don't forget that he was the first one to mention that he'd take back 11:30 if it was offered to him. And he publicly badmouths NBC while getting exactly what he wants from them.

Deftones

My reality is where the Cubs haven't won a World Series in 102 years. Yours?

pinata242

Wait until 2015! I'm putting all my money on the Cubbies before the season starts.

Double_Oh_7

Judging from your forum name, you must really like supporting major losers.

coli

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coli

I agree that alot of the BS went on behind the scenes, but when Letterman bolted to CBS, that was a HUGE story that day. I remember the press conference, and how Leno was going to get creamed, and how stupid NBC was for letting Dave go.

Trust me, I was one of those people who believed Letterman was going to kick Jay's ass, because I LOVED Letterman at 12:30. I thought NBC was a bunch of idiots for giving Leno the job. Years later, Letterman was never the same on CBS, as I still don't know what happened to him???? And I ended up watching Leno all those years.

Yavin

Conan apologized for his hair in the statement he issued this week!

Fist of Doom

That's never happened to me, so I can't relate, but let's sum up the grand total of what Conan has lost:

The option of doing the Tonight Show at 11:35.

That's it. He can still do the Tonight Show at 12:05, or he can do his same show on Fox. And he'll still make a shit-ton of dough. Don't get me wrong - I think Conan has handled the situation in a classy manner, making his opinion known without being whiny about it. What I find silly is how angry his fans are The guy will still have a show somewhere, sometime - you're losing nothing. Just use that remote control-y thing.

Deftones

that's not necessarily true until the details of his exit are hammered out. Conan might not be on TV for a while as a condition of any settlement, so we may be losing something.

WCChiCubsFan

Your posts say lot about yourselves.

Michael Corvin

Maybe, but Leno retired from the Tonight Show and decided to experiment with a nightly "variety" show. He failed. He should walk away.Also as noted earlier, Leno doesn't need money, he lives off his stand-up revenue. I don't even like Conan (I'm with Team Ferguson ) but I have to say I'm with him over Leno.

I don't disagree, the problem is, will Leno have the guests to put on a decent show? I can see celebs holding out over this mess. It could be a six month period where Leno gets nothing but NBC stars on the couch. How will ratings be after he's recycled the same guests in that amount of time?

Bingo. The internet age changes everything. Back then, once the nightly news stopped covering it, the story is dead. This time out, things will live on forever via YouTube and it will be dragged out for a long time. It also gives TMZ and Entertainment Tonight something to talk about until the end of the year.

cleaver

That makes me think of my favorite Tonight Show moment with Conan - the autotuned Kanye interrupting Taylor Swift.
http://www.tonightshowwithconanobrie...091409/1157164

jpb07

I still can't shake the thought that this is being played up behind the scenes to give both a bit of a ratings bump while they work it out behind the scenes. I've watched more of the two shows in the past two nights than I have since both took over their timeslots.

If not, count me as one of the 30somethings who hate Conan. NBC hasn't been anywhere near what they were in the Carson/Letterman days. I think Dave got screwed over by Leno but after the moves took place, Leno had the more watchable show. Dave's humor just was a more natural fit at the Late Show coming off a "dignified" Tonight Show. The same thing has happened with Conan except for many he wasn't even watchable at the 12:35 slot before the move....much less after the move. Did he improve? Yes. Did he learn his lesson? No. If he had, Andy Richter would be no where near the set. Can someone tell me what he adds to the show except a annoying look for a camera shot a couple times during the monologue? I will say that the band is an improvement from Leno's though. Fallon had a very rough start but he's actually halfway decent now. He's got the best band of the NBC late night shows and his SNL training is showing as his comedy is more mainstream. Not to bag on him too much but when you're big comic prop is your hair....you need to be doing standup or move to FOX.

So the question is how things will shake out. Will they just rebuild the Tonight Show sets for Leno and act as if nothing happened or are they just going to destroy Conan's set and move the JLS set/format to 11:35? Personally I think NBC should be innovative and rebuild Leno's TS set while keeping some parts of his primetime show. The panel that he did the other night was entertaining...the best "skit" I've seen on either of his shows outside of the Ross the Intern Olympic skits. I'm guessing FOX will build Conan's set pretty close to what it was at NBC....maybe with a bit of an Arsenio twist. Or thinking outside of the box, will there be some sort of a "screwed over my NBC" club at CBS with Conan going to 12:35 for a year or two under the agreement that he gets 11:35 when Dave retires?

jpb07

That is not entirely true. He was forced to "retire" based on a 5 year old agreement that Conan got the slot in 2009. It was one big gamble by NBC that has failed. Do you really think the suits (or Leno) wanted to give Conan 11:35 in the past few years? It was a move to prevent his exit to ABC when they thought Leno would be ready to leave and they didn't have a backup plan. The big winner in all of this is likely Jimmy Fallon. He has put together a fairly solid show and should be viewed as "in training" by NBC. He's not going anywhere so when Leno is ready to go, he'll always be there to move up.

jpb07

Since when did the Cubs have anything to do with Leno/Conan? Talk about threadcrapping...

Drexl

I really hope they have a better choice than Fallon as the future host of the Tonight Show.