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chuckd21 12-04-09 11:56 AM

Re: The Office -- "Scott's Tots" -- 12/03/09
 
Does no one pad their DVRs? The second highest complaint after "Worst episode ever I am so done with this show!!!one!" is about their DVRs cutting off...

Goldblum 12-04-09 12:46 PM

Re: The Office -- "Scott's Tots" -- 12/03/09
 
I liked the episode, although the storylines did feel forced. For instance:

1. I can buy that Michael made such an asinine promise to the kids. But in the 10 years since not one kid or parent has bothered to follow or check-up with Michael and learn that he's not a millionaire?

2. Why didn't the office simply accept Jim saying it was a mistake and that he refused employee of the month?

3. David Wallace immediately turning from yelling at Jim to confirming their dinner reservation plans seemed an out of place way to end the plotline.

Plus, I hate how Pam has gotten so bitchy. She was a better character when she was cute and fun.

However, there were a lot of great things about this episode, including:

a. Dwight's impressions
b. Andy sitting down in Jim's office and immediately jumping back up
c. Creed's weekly non sequitur: "I'm starting to think Pam's not even pregnant."
d. Michael's numerous subtle put-downs of receptionist Erin
e. The song and dance
f. Michael offering the kids laptop batteries :lol:

clckworang 12-04-09 12:47 PM

Re: The Office -- "Scott's Tots" -- 12/03/09
 

Originally Posted by Quack (Post 9871022)
Was there anything at the very end? My damn DVR again cut it off before I saw the last snipet if there was one.

Yes, Ryan goes up to Dwight and tells him that he knows what Dwight is doing. Dwight tries to deny it, but Ryan shows him that he left a copy of his plan in the copy machine. Ryan says he wants in, he wants to bring down Jim, so Dwight apparently agrees to join forces.


Originally Posted by Slumbering Fist (Post 9871006)
Well, I think you totally missed the point. It falls right in line with Micheal's behavior. It was a half-hearted or exaggerated promise he made just to feel good, couldnt keep it, and then swept it under the rug as the years went by childishly hoping it would just go away. Its the same behavior as telling the shareholders they were coming back from a thirty minute break with all the answers to Dunder Mifluns slipping business problems.


Man this ep really piled it on, though. Micheal and Dwight are pure sociopaths. Lock those guys up.

Agreed. I thought this storyline kept perfectly in line with Michael's character. All these years he probably figured something would happen to let him off the hook or he would become a millionaire as planned. Oops.

I was surprised. I expected Michael's storyline to be the weak one, instead it was the other way around. I was really cracking up at Michael's situation but I was very disappointed in the Jim storyline. It just didn't seem very real. I don't see why he couldn't get out an explanation for the whole thing.


Originally Posted by chuckd21 (Post 9871040)
Does no one pad their DVRs? The second highest complaint after "Worst episode ever I am so done with this show!!!one!" is about their DVRs cutting off...

Some people actually watch things on other channels after The Office. I know, it's shocking, but it happens. In other words, not everyone is able to pad the show. Will we have to add complaints about people not padding their DVRs to your list?

rennervision 12-04-09 01:26 PM

Re: The Office -- "Scott's Tots" -- 12/03/09
 
As for why Jim could not explain the Employee of the Month mess, Dwight's diabolical cake delivery was supposed to thwart Jim's explanations that he knew nothing about picking himself.

Nausicaa 12-04-09 01:39 PM

Re: The Office -- "Scott's Tots" -- 12/03/09
 

Originally Posted by Slumbering Fist (Post 9871006)
Well, I think you totally missed the point. It falls right in line with Micheal's behavior. It was a half-hearted or exaggerated promise he made just to feel good, couldnt keep it, and then swept it under the rug as the years went by childishly hoping it would just go away. Its the same behavior as telling the shareholders they were coming back from a thirty minute break with all the answers to Dunder Mifluns slipping business problems.

I get that. It was just so 'over the top' that for me, it was on par with Michael following the GPS into that lake. Michael seemed to know these kids, yet in the last 6 years we've never once heard about this promise. In several past episodes Michael has even expressed his dreams of one day being a philanthropist. You'd think he might have mentioned being on the line for 20 kids' college tuitions. It came out of nowhere, and wasn't at all believable. As others have said, you can't just promise something like that and not be found out for ten years.

It would have worked much better if the storyline was Michael visiting a group of school kids and making such a promise during the episode, getting chastized right away. There was way too much history for me to just roll with it.

I'm not one to nitpick this show, it's one of my favorites. But I enjoy it most when it's at least slightly grounded in reality.

yourlocalcinema 12-04-09 02:18 PM

Re: The Office -- "Scott's Tots" -- 12/03/09
 
Really great article that sums up a lot of my problems with the show this season (even if the headline is a bit of hyperbole): http://www.theawl.com/2009/12/meghan...-on-television

uteotw 12-04-09 03:15 PM

Re: The Office -- "Scott's Tots" -- 12/03/09
 
Loved Erin cleaning out his Inbox: "There's three email alerts here from a place called 'Nipslips.'" "What?" "NIPSLIPS." -- and the look of genuine concern on her face when he says it must be hackers. Awesome.

fumanstan 12-04-09 03:43 PM

Re: The Office -- "Scott's Tots" -- 12/03/09
 
I thought Michael's promise was perfectly in character. Honestly, I think it's funny how wildly people's feelings are as to what constitutes being "in" character for Michael. Given all the other stupid things he's done, pretty much everything is game as far as i'm concerned. I just didn't like how that story line played out and it wasn't particularly funny, although his speech about being a millionaire was actually a sweet moment.

Osiris3657 12-04-09 03:44 PM

Re: The Office -- "Scott's Tots" -- 12/03/09
 
the awkwardness and cringe-worthy factor of the classroom scene was up to Michael's standards...could barely watch haha

Bill Needle 12-04-09 04:37 PM

Re: The Office -- "Scott's Tots" -- 12/03/09
 
I liked Stanley's line: "It's been ten years already? Heh-heh-heh-heh!"

And Michael's: "I have made some empty promises in my life, but hands-down, that was the most generous."

astrochimp 12-04-09 05:13 PM

Re: The Office -- "Scott's Tots" -- 12/03/09
 

Originally Posted by Bill Needle (Post 9871525)
And Michael's: "I have made some empty promises in my life, but hands-down, that was the most generous."

That one made me :lol:

Along his Elvis "Thank you,thank you a lot".

and Dwight's:

"Five minutes ahead of schedule.Right on schedule."

Achtung 12-04-09 05:25 PM

Re: The Office -- "Scott's Tots" -- 12/03/09
 

Originally Posted by Boba Fett (Post 9870409)
I'd love to see this same scenario played out in the British version. I can only imagine how much more cringeworthy it would have been with David Brent handling things.

It wouldn't have made sense in the British version though, since the government there heavily subsidizes college tuition. It's far more of an issue to get into school than to pay for it.

Plus, like someone else mentioned, David Brent was far more selfish and unlikable than Michael Scott.



Originally Posted by Nausicaa (Post 9870882)
Didn't like the employee of the month story either. It was too obvious and Jim was out of character with his inability to describe what was happening.

It's getting a bit old that they have the ones where Michael leaves the office and suddenly Jim turns into a Michael-like incompetent boob. It's like the writers want to be able to make a Michael main plot and a Michael subplot at the same time. Seems kind of lazy.

Overall I didn't like this one nearly as much as the past few. I did laugh at Dwight doing the voices and Ryan finding a copy of the devious plan though. :D

My Other Self 12-04-09 07:30 PM

Re: The Office -- "Scott's Tots" -- 12/03/09
 
I had a damn near impossible time watching this episode. I had to constantly pause it. The awkwardness was just too fucking intense.

But was still a fine episode. Thought it was pretty good. I really liked the end segment with Michael and Erin driving in the car. I wish he has more moments like that.

Also Dwight's impersonations were pretty funny.

Draven 12-04-09 07:39 PM

Re: The Office -- "Scott's Tots" -- 12/03/09
 

Originally Posted by yourlocalcinema (Post 9871306)
Really great article that sums up a lot of my problems with the show this season (even if the headline is a bit of hyperbole): http://www.theawl.com/2009/12/meghan...-on-television

See I read that article and respect and enjoy the show even more. It's not often you get to see real character change on a sitcom, and I think this season is knocking it out of the park depicting what a depressing position the manager of that office is, and explains a lot of Michael's problems.

DJLinus 12-04-09 09:24 PM

Re: The Office -- "Scott's Tots" -- 12/03/09
 

Originally Posted by Drav3n (Post 9870702)
great, wasnt it?? ;) haha

I dunno, man. Too much Erin could be PAINFUL!

(Likely NSFW due to subject matter.)

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:lol:

spainlinx0 12-05-09 01:02 AM

Re: The Office -- "Scott's Tots" -- 12/03/09
 
I have seen that video, but I had no idea that was her.

Achtung 12-05-09 01:18 AM

Re: The Office -- "Scott's Tots" -- 12/03/09
 
She's done some pretty funny stuff.

NSFW-ish.

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Trevor 12-05-09 07:54 AM

Re: The Office -- "Scott's Tots" -- 12/03/09
 
Erin and Michael stuff was great, Dwight awesome as always, but agree that the Jim storyline/group reactions were too manufactured and completely out of character(s). Sort of ruined the episode for me.

Superboy 12-06-09 09:19 AM

Re: The Office -- "Scott's Tots" -- 12/03/09
 
Seriously, the Scott's Tots was just too unbelievable. He should have gone to jail for that. Or at least gotten the crap kicked out of him.

Draven 12-06-09 10:11 AM

Re: The Office -- "Scott's Tots" -- 12/03/09
 
It's amazing to me that people think Michael promising something like that is unbelievable. It makes perfect sense that it happened in the moment, he enjoyed the 10 years of affection (he does genuinely love kids, after all), and that he hoped he would become a millionaire but at the same time dreaded the day the bill would come due.

It's a 100% Michael Scott move.

PopcornTreeCt 12-06-09 10:23 AM

Re: The Office -- "Scott's Tots" -- 12/03/09
 

Originally Posted by yourlocalcinema (Post 9871306)
Really great article that sums up a lot of my problems with the show this season (even if the headline is a bit of hyperbole): http://www.theawl.com/2009/12/meghan...-on-television

I thought Jim had a roommate early on, that he was good friends with. But I guess it's true that they have no friends. It is kinda sad how now Jim has to keep his job because of the house and the baby.

bluetoast 12-06-09 12:26 PM

Re: The Office -- "Scott's Tots" -- 12/03/09
 
Yeah I was thinking of Jim's roommate from when he had that party. "He didn't believe a person like Dwight existed." or something like that.

Superboy 12-06-09 07:25 PM

Re: The Office -- "Scott's Tots" -- 12/03/09
 

Originally Posted by Draven (Post 9874125)
It's amazing to me that people think Michael promising something like that is unbelievable. It makes perfect sense that it happened in the moment, he enjoyed the 10 years of affection (he does genuinely love kids, after all), and that he hoped he would become a millionaire but at the same time dreaded the day the bill would come due.

It's a 100% Michael Scott move.

I'm not saying that i can't believe that he would do such a thing, but the way it played out was totally unrealistic.

The show has really changed dramatically from being the ultra-realistic show it was in the first few seasons (almost to the point that the show was not watchable).

Draven 12-06-09 10:35 PM

Re: The Office -- "Scott's Tots" -- 12/03/09
 
What was unrealistic? The only thing I thought it was missing was some sort of media representation at the event. Especially since it had been covered before. Other than that, I don't know what was wrong with the way it was handled.

Superboy 12-06-09 11:06 PM

Re: The Office -- "Scott's Tots" -- 12/03/09
 
Yeah, he should have been plastered by the media. Which would have hurt his company for sure.

Take last episode for example - after that disastrous shareholder meeting, they had a snapshot of the stock price plummeting. So despite how we get the comedic viewpoint, the writers didn't forget that the show is supposed to be realistic.

And that shareholder meeting is actually pretty accurate.


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