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Old 12-03-09 | 09:09 AM
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As long as everyone comes back, that's the main thing. I'd hate to see this show lose momentum like Pushing Daisies did, and everyone just forget about it. I don't know if PD had the same kind of ratings that Glee does, or near the fan base that Glee seems to have, but it could happen. In TV, absence makes the viewer grow distant.
Exactly - that's the concern.
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I think PD had more to do with the writers losing momentum than the audience. It went off the air as a quirky, original show & came back after the writers strike as a standard TV murder solving show, only with bright colors.

Personally, I'd rather see Fox let this show move at it's own pace rather than trying to rush a bunch of sub-par episodes just to have something to air.
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Shue's getting pissed reminded me of Deep Space 9 when
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Sisko realized that Garak had blown up the Romulan ship.
Just an amazing performance.
Link? I'm curious now.

Glad to see story arcs taking major leaps, especially the non-pregnancy one. I think I've been so uncomfortable on behalf of Will that it's been difficult to watch it. I hope something great comes out of it for him though I have to say, too, the fact that the storyline hit me emotionally tells me they're doing it right.
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I hate to say it, but I think this one has been kind of predictable for awhile: Will finally finds out about Terri; leaves Terri after realizing he and Emma could have something; Emma makes it seem like she's actually going through with the wedding to Ken, leaving Will alone; doesn't go through with it and ends up in Will's arms; happily ever after; end scene.
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Amazing scenes with Will and Terri and Sue. I always thought Sue was funny despite the fact she was nasty to boot. This time Sue has really gone too far, I thought I couldn't hate her more than I did last night. I hope Sue gets hers in the future episodes.
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Re: Glee -- "Once Upon A Mattress" -- 12/02/09

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I hate to say it, but I think this one has been kind of predictable for awhile: Will finally finds out about Terri; leaves Terri after realizing he and Emma could have something; Emma makes it seem like she's actually going through with the wedding to Ken, leaving Will alone; doesn't go through with it and ends up in Will's arms; happily ever after; end scene.
I think you missed the part where Shue finds someone else or reconciles with his wife, while Emma decides to leave Ken. Then, once again, Emma is alone. I have a feeling they're going to do this cat and mouse thing for a while, at least until the finale if not next season.
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Thank god the fake pregnancy thing is finally done with! That storyline was getting really stale. That confrontation scene was great. Will was appropriately mad, not TV mad. I thought he was going to hit her or at least shove her.

And I don't think there's anything to fear in regards to Glee's future. The biggest difference when compared to a show like Pushing Daisies is the amount of money that is being raked in selling CDs and mp3s. The show could probably sustain a pretty big dip in ratings if songs were still selling. That's an extra revenue stream that most TV shows just don't have.
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I think you missed the part where Shue finds someone else or reconciles with his wife, while Emma decides to leave Ken. Then, once again, Emma is alone. I have a feeling they're going to do this cat and mouse thing for a while, at least until the finale if not next season.
He could always poke Rachel.
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The boys at 3Guys And Glee: The Podcast have their new episode up for "Mattress"
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I love Rachel

I thought that it was a bit odd for a pregnant chick to be jumping up and down on a bed so forcefully, but not so much about the handicapped kid.
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Personally, I thought this episode did everything "right," setting up whatever will be the dangling plot lines for the finale. Plotwise, more happened in this episode than just about all the others added together. I've never seen this show as "plot driven," with the music being a very satisfying commentary on whatever the episode's themes are. I did enjoy the yearbook stuff since it rings true about how geeks are treated in high school, and backing away from that (for example, letting the glee kids become "cool") sinks the reason I think the show is enjoyable.

Don't throw slushies, but I still enjoy Jessica Gilsig and her character. She fits right in with everyone else's kink (and her sister, Jennifer Aspen, completes that familial picture). I wondered at her desperation when her fake pregnancy was unmasked. I've never thought Terri would panic over abandonment; I did think she'd object to being exposed and losing control over her situation. But why does she need Will? With Terri's ambitions--which Will isn't meeting--is she the worse off? I wanted to correct her when she said she faked the pregnancy because Will was drifting off because of glee club; as I remember it, she faked the pregnancy so he'd quit teaching.

Will is alone in his support of the glee club, well, he and Rachel. Everyone else just tolerates the idea. Whether "dreams come true" at sectionals, I'm a little ambivalent. These characters thrive best when they're the underdog. What happens if they win?

I resist this show most when it becomes sentimental. Fortunately, that's rare. Embracing Quinn was nice, but she's best when she's confrontational. Is she really thriving from the acceptance by the glee kids or is it just convenient in her current circumstance? I was happy to see her mean streak surface again and not necessarily convinced when she walked away from the Cheerio's.

Regarding the scheduling: The time between the pilot and the season opener was considerable, and it only built interest. As long as the writers deliver, the show will keep its audience. Whether or not it can keep its cast is the hazard of assembling such a large amount of talent. But with proper casting, I think they can find the necessary replacements.
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I thought that the principal and the school was getting behind the Glee club from all the performances they were doing? And I thought Will's reaction was great, really based in reality of how someone in that situation would act. Also, i still don't buy Rachel not being popular. She's too pretty not to be. And I still find it hard to believe that the football team would still be ragging on them, even thought four of their team mates are on the team. I think it's time the four football/glee members starting fighting back.
Old 12-03-09 | 07:57 PM
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I really like how they handled the Will/Terri confrontation. Morrison did such a great job portraying the escalating motions Will was experiencing. He's upset and depressed and betrayed just to know that the pregnancy is faked, but then when Terri reveals she had planned to take Quinn's baby and pass it off as their own, you could see Will not just be angry or feel betrayed, but his life literally fell apart. That his wife would not only lie to him but take advantage of one of his students really dealt an immeasurable blow to him. That was some very fine acting by Will.

And the Will/Sue confrontation, I was absolutely sure Will was going to punch Sue in the face.

The episode was great as it moved the plot forward and resolved a lot of things, but I actually wasn't that big a fan of the music this time around.
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Personally, I thought this episode did everything "right," setting up whatever will be the dangling plot lines for the finale. Plotwise, more happened in this episode than just about all the others added together. I've never seen this show as "plot driven," with the music being a very satisfying commentary on whatever the episode's themes are. I did enjoy the yearbook stuff since it rings true about how geeks are treated in high school, and backing away from that (for example, letting the glee kids become "cool") sinks the reason I think the show is enjoyable.

Don't throw slushies, but I still enjoy Jessica Gilsig and her character. She fits right in with everyone else's kink (and her sister, Jennifer Aspen, completes that familial picture). I wondered at her desperation when her fake pregnancy was unmasked. I've never thought Terri would panic over abandonment; I did think she'd object to being exposed and losing control over her situation. But why does she need Will? With Terri's ambitions--which Will isn't meeting--is she the worse off? I wanted to correct her when she said she faked the pregnancy because Will was drifting off because of glee club; as I remember it, she faked the pregnancy so he'd quit teaching.

Will is alone in his support of the glee club, well, he and Rachel. Everyone else just tolerates the idea. Whether "dreams come true" at sectionals, I'm a little ambivalent. These characters thrive best when they're the underdog. What happens if they win?

I resist this show most when it becomes sentimental. Fortunately, that's rare. Embracing Quinn was nice, but she's best when she's confrontational. Is she really thriving from the acceptance by the glee kids or is it just convenient in her current circumstance? I was happy to see her mean streak surface again and not necessarily convinced when she walked away from the Cheerio's.

Regarding the scheduling: The time between the pilot and the season opener was considerable, and it only built interest. As long as the writers deliver, the show will keep its audience. Whether or not it can keep its cast is the hazard of assembling such a large amount of talent. But with proper casting, I think they can find the necessary replacements.
I couldn't agree more. The story was well structured and everyone had a good character moment.
I do have to say that I am really getting tired of the Sue vendetta.
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^I love Sue but I'm tired of her whole vendetta against Will and the glee club.
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^I love Sue but I'm tired of her whole vendetta against Will and the glee club.
She's pretty one dimensional except for that one episode where we see her Sister.
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I wanted to correct her when she said she faked the pregnancy because Will was drifting off because of glee club; as I remember it, she faked the pregnancy so he'd quit teaching.
You're absolutely correct. There's a difference between what she told Will and her real reasons. She wants to control Will. She said it herself when she said the marriage works because he doesn't feel good about himself. She's played this whole time on his self-esteem and got him to do what she wanted him to do.

Originally Posted by MJFargo
Embracing Quinn was nice, but she's best when she's confrontational. Is she really thriving from the acceptance by the glee kids or is it just convenient in her current circumstance?
Once again, Quinn, along with everyone else, is trying to find a place in this world by their associations with each other and their mentors. They're figuring things out about who they are, who they've been up to now, and what they want for the rest of their lives. I'm glad to see they didn't stay with Quinn being the stereotypical "evil cheerleader". I think she's feeling genuine acceptance in Glee Club, but this time out she did use her old conniving ways to get what she wanted for herself and her friends. Her and Sue's scene was fantastic.

Originally Posted by MJFargo
Whether or not it can keep its cast is the hazard of assembling such a large amount of talent. But with proper casting, I think they can find the necessary replacements.
I think replacing anyone in this cast would be a monumentally devastating mistake.

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Also, i still don't buy Rachel not being popular. She's too pretty not to be.
She's very pretty, and I don't think they've ever tried to convince us otherwise. But, as explained by the other students on several occasions, she's annoying and conceited. It's hard to get close to anyone who's always giving off an air of being completely full of themselves, no matter how they look on the outside.

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The girl in my high school that was like Rachel was not popular at all outside of those of us who did drama/musicals/etc, I find it believable.
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Originally Posted by MJFargo
Personally, I thought this episode did everything "right," setting up whatever will be the dangling plot lines for the finale. Plotwise, more happened in this episode than just about all the others added together. I've never seen this show as "plot driven," with the music being a very satisfying commentary on whatever the episode's themes are. I did enjoy the yearbook stuff since it rings true about how geeks are treated in high school, and backing away from that (for example, letting the glee kids become "cool") sinks the reason I think the show is enjoyable.

Don't throw slushies, but I still enjoy Jessica Gilsig and her character. She fits right in with everyone else's kink (and her sister, Jennifer Aspen, completes that familial picture). I wondered at her desperation when her fake pregnancy was unmasked. I've never thought Terri would panic over abandonment; I did think she'd object to being exposed and losing control over her situation. But why does she need Will? With Terri's ambitions--which Will isn't meeting--is she the worse off? I wanted to correct her when she said she faked the pregnancy because Will was drifting off because of glee club; as I remember it, she faked the pregnancy so he'd quit teaching.

Will is alone in his support of the glee club, well, he and Rachel. Everyone else just tolerates the idea. Whether "dreams come true" at sectionals, I'm a little ambivalent. These characters thrive best when they're the underdog. What happens if they win?

I resist this show most when it becomes sentimental. Fortunately, that's rare. Embracing Quinn was nice, but she's best when she's confrontational. Is she really thriving from the acceptance by the glee kids or is it just convenient in her current circumstance? I was happy to see her mean streak surface again and not necessarily convinced when she walked away from the Cheerio's.

Regarding the scheduling: The time between the pilot and the season opener was considerable, and it only built interest. As long as the writers deliver, the show will keep its audience. Whether or not it can keep its cast is the hazard of assembling such a large amount of talent. But with proper casting, I think they can find the necessary replacements.
I have been a fan of Jessalyn since Boston Public. She is great at playing psycho type characters. Terri does annoy me sometimes but I think Jessalyn's portrayal of her is done well and I do wonder if Terri was different person before she and Will married and she started expecting more from him.
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The girl in my high school that was like Rachel was not popular at all outside of those of us who did drama/musicals/etc, I find it believable.
I also find it believable. There were girls like that in my school. They were popular in their own groups but they weren't popular or well like by the school in general. There were a few jocks that weren't extremely with the whole school either. Rachel reminds me a lot of Tracy Flick from Election.
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Originally Posted by lordwow
The girl in my high school that was like Rachel was not popular at all outside of those of us who did drama/musicals/etc, I find it believable.
I agree. I was kinda/sorta friends with a choir girl in my HS who was very pretty and talented enough to actually be in the all girl group Nobody's Angel, who had some minor success in the late 90s. She wasn't all that popular.
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I have been a fan of Jessalyn since Boston Public. She is great at playing psycho type characters. Terri does annoy me sometimes but I think Jessalyn's portrayal of her is done well and I do wonder if Terri was different person before she and Will married and she started expecting more from him.
I too enjoy the actress. Loved her on Nip/Tuck but I don't think she really belongs on this show.
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Everybody voted for Rachel... including Rachel
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any way for me to watch this show from the beginning?
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At this point you'll have to wait for the DVD set to come out in a few weeks. All the sites that stream the show only show the newest 5 episodes.


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