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Old 10-14-09 | 01:47 PM
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Originally Posted by Nick Martin
What about "Beer Bad"?


That ep. actually plays well as a guilty pleasure, but it's still lackluster. I saw it after having read all the negativity regarding it and didn't find it that bad. FWIW, in the DVD notes section Whedon has a comment about this season having "that one bad ep. that looked good on paper." At least he acknowledged his mistake.
Old 10-14-09 | 04:30 PM
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Originally Posted by Tracer Bullet
Yes, that must be it.

I didn't care for Dr. Horrible because it did nothing new. If you're a fan of his previous work you saw the ending coming within the first 10 minutes. The songs were mostly forgettable, too- I don't remember a single one of them.
I'm being painted with a pretty broad brush too so I felt overgeneralizations were fine. I didn't like Dr. Horrbile because it was from Joss Whedon, I liked it because the music is catchy, NPH is outstanding, Fillion is hilarious, Felicia Day is cute, the premise is pretty original and the whole thing is a lot of fun to watch.

I resent any implication that I simply like it because it's from Joss Whedon.
Old 10-14-09 | 04:47 PM
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some sensitive ass people in this thread

this is an opinion board

if someone doesn't like a show, noone who likes it should take it as a personal attack

and yes, dollhouse sucks
Old 10-14-09 | 04:51 PM
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Originally Posted by ATX
some sensitive ass people in this thread

this is an opinion board

if someone doesn't like a show, noone who likes it should take it as a personal attack

and yes, dollhouse sucks
Old 10-14-09 | 05:54 PM
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Originally Posted by creekdipper
I grok your mouthmusic, Spain, but I guess I don't expect everything Joss does to live up to the heights of his earlier work.

My point was simply that the show offers a diversion from the other formula shows & their clones. If I found the show to be unwatchable, I'd say so. In DVDTalk Review terms, I'd give the show a "rent it"...not highly recommended or buy it, but not "skip it", either. It's certainly not essential and doesn't compare favorably to many better shows in the past, but I don't see too many current network shows that I would rate as 'essential'.

It's like Friday Night Lights...I watch it because it's different even though I sometimes find it infuriating when it relies on predictable conventions. Still, I prefer it to many other throwaway shows that are paint-by-number. I had some similar reservations about Battlestar Galactica, but the pros outweighed the cons.

Could Dollhouse be better? Undoubtedly. Should Dollhouse be better? Without question. Do those assessments make it unwatchable? IMHO, no way. I'll still watch Heroes even when the plots wander, just as I watched Prison Break when it got bogged down in Season 4, or The Tudors when almost two seasons were devoted to Anne Boleyn. I miss the variety of the 60's when every conceivable type of show was airing.

Will I miss Dollhouse when it's canceled? Not in a big way. However, I don't see much better on the horizon, judging by the quality of the new shows this season.
Your last point is the thing. I won't miss the show when it's gone, I'll miss the potential lost. I missed Firefly when it was cancelled. I loved that show. I was furious that people didn't watch it. I like this show. Perhaps people are getting the wrong impression, but I'm obviously still tuning in. I feel that there is something there, and I don't think the show is unwatchable. Now Heroes on the other hand...

Originally Posted by Draven
What about the one "Some Assembly Required" where Willow's computer fell in love with her? Was it THAT much better than that particular Dollhouse episode?
Yes, because I enjoyed the characters at the minimum. I'm beginning to really dislike Echo.

Originally Posted by rfduncan
Thanks for your sage input to this thread. I guess you must have endless amounts of time on your hands if you can wade through all the Dollhouse threads and contribute nothing to the topic except a threadcrap. Seriously, thanks.


WHAT!?!?! That implant allowed that priceless sequence with Victor (Enver Gjokaj) in the dance club!


Too bad she is
Spoiler:
adios in a few episodes.
Yes, that sequence was great. And like I said in that thread, this show would have been better with Victor, Whiskey, or Sierra as the lead.

Originally Posted by Nick Martin
What about "Beer Bad"?
Didn't think it was so bad. Certainly not Hush, but I thought it had some funny moments.
Old 10-14-09 | 06:05 PM
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It's not so easy to rank 'bad' ANGEL episodes. Being my favorite series, I've never found any episode of it to be bad and find something to like about every one of them. There is the odd episode that I don't enjoy because of something disturbing about them, namely the pregnant Cordelia episodes (partially since I find her to be just plain gross when pregnant) but nothing I flat-out disliked at all. Seasons 2 and 3 are my favorite, as is much of season 1. I loved that humble start the series had.
Old 10-14-09 | 06:22 PM
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And another one bites the dust. Awesome.
Old 10-14-09 | 09:35 PM
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And another one bites the dust. Awesome.
You know something we don't ? It's obviously gone after this Fall, but to my knowledge we're getting the rest of the season at least.
Old 10-14-09 | 09:38 PM
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I'd like to know who involved with Dollhouse pissed in everyone's Wheaties.
Old 10-15-09 | 01:14 AM
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Originally Posted by Draven
I'm being painted with a pretty broad brush too so I felt overgeneralizations were fine. I didn't like Dr. Horrbile because it was from Joss Whedon, I liked it because the music is catchy, NPH is outstanding, Fillion is hilarious, Felicia Day is cute, the premise is pretty original and the whole thing is a lot of fun to watch.
Old 10-15-09 | 03:55 AM
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Originally Posted by Draven
I didn't like Dr. Horrbile because it was from Joss Whedon
My thoughts exactly.

Old 10-16-09 | 04:20 AM
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***No Dollhouse tonight***

FOX is televising Game 1 of the ALCS. Hence that is why there is no new thread.
Old 10-16-09 | 09:42 AM
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Man, and here I thought we were going to have one with Victor being implanted with the persona of a baseball player trying to figure out a steroid scandal, with Echo as a News Reporter.
Old 10-16-09 | 09:46 AM
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Oh that's a relief. I still haven't gotten around to watching last week's episode yet.
Old 10-16-09 | 11:08 AM
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A number of shows on all networks seem to be going on hiatus for baseball. Boo.
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No conflict with Ugly Betty's premiere, so good.
Old 10-19-09 | 10:55 PM
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Originally Posted by Dr. DVD
Hell, I remember Fox used to be the joke network with shows that had premises so lame that in retrospect I'm surprised anyone had the audacity to even air them (Herman's Head got two seasons for Pete's sake!).
Herman's Head got three seasons.
Old 10-21-09 | 07:48 AM
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Apparently even Joss is ready to move on.

http://blogs.sun-sentinel.com/tv/200...dollhouse.html

Joss Whedon looks beyond doomed Dollhouse
> Posted by Tom Jicha on October 20, 2009 09:31 AM

Good news for Joss Whedon is probably bad news for fans of his Fox series Dollhouse.

Whedon is preparing for life after the inevitable cancellation of Dollhouse, one of the lowest rated series on any of the big four networks.

The creator of Buffy the Vampire Slayer is going to direct an episode of the Fox series Glee after he wraps the 13-episode order of Dollhouse.

Whedon is so hands-on this all but makes it official that there will be no backend pickup of the nine episodes that would constitute a full season of Dollhouse.

Whedon rarely gets involved in shows he didn't create--one exception is an episode of The Office he directed--but Glee is an ideal fit. His creative musical Once More With Feeling episode of Buffy is considered one of the cult phenomenon's brightest moments.

He also created the web series Dr. Horrible's Sing-Along Blog, which won an Emmy last month.
Old 10-21-09 | 10:26 PM
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This isn’t a good sign: Sources confirm to me exclusively that Fox has decided to pull Dollhouse off the schedule during November sweeps. Joss Whedon’s ratings-challenged drama is expected to return in December and air back-to-back episodes on Friday night.

http://ausiellofiles.ew.com/2009/10/...se-for-sweeps/
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Originally Posted by chrisih8u
This isn’t a good sign: Sources confirm to me exclusively that Fox has decided to pull Dollhouse off the schedule during November sweeps. Joss Whedon’s ratings-challenged drama is expected to return in December and air back-to-back episodes on Friday night.
This isn't exclusive news, or even new news. From the OP:
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http://www.thrfeed.com/2009/10/fox-w...-episodes.html
During [November] sweeps we might have to jack up the numbers a little [with other programming], but we plan on completing the order for this show."
Old 10-21-09 | 11:29 PM
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Originally Posted by Jay G.
This isn't exclusive news, or even new news. From the OP:
The OP says they might take it off during November sweeps. Now they have decided that they will in fact do that. Thats news.
Old 10-21-09 | 11:58 PM
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Originally Posted by kstublen
Regardless of whether the show is canceled or not, I have to respect FOX for this statement. They gave Terminator: The Sarah Connor Chronicles a second chance after lackluster ratings for the first season, renewed it, and then aired every episode. They gave Dollhouse a second chance and are likewise going to run all the episodes. That's a pretty good improvement from the old days where FOX would cancel a show after a few episodes and never air the rest of them.
It's a sign of the bad economy. They simply don't have enough money to cancel shows in the can and produce new shows.
Old 10-22-09 | 07:57 AM
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The OP says they might take it off during November sweeps. Now they have decided that they will in fact do that. Thats news.
OK, I guess if one couldn't read between the lines in the quote from the OP, then this is news.
Old 10-22-09 | 08:07 AM
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Originally Posted by Jay G.
OK, I guess if one couldn't read between the lines in the quote from the OP, then this is news.
No, its news to anybody that understands the definition. It was scheduled to air in November. Now it's not. It may not be surprising news, but it's still news. And pretty relevant to the thread.
Old 10-22-09 | 08:49 AM
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I find myself not caring about this news. And I still haven't gotten around to watching the last new episode. I look forward to it being canceled so I don't have to force myself to sit through it every week.


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