Why does these guys all get up so early in the morning? You'd think with their lifestyles they'd be out bar-hopping until the wee hours, but they always show them at like up at like 6am for no reason waiting to get ahold of people.

I'm pretty sure at least in this episode they were still up from being up at 6 am. Because when E went to Ashley's he was drunk and it was 6am.

You're correct, but agree that they do seem to get up really early. Drama is always making them breakfast, but I guess he could be making them breakfast at like 11:30 am or something.

These guys are supposed to be living the party lifestyle. I serious doubt Lindsay Lohan and Paris Hilton are up before noon very often.

I'll second that.

Well unlike Paris Hilton and Lindsay Lohan, Vince and crew are all actually working. Vince is working on his movie and seems to be reading a lot of scripts (he was reading in this episode). Drama was all up in arms about his Five Towns stuff this episode and in previous episodes he's been working. Turtle has school and before that he was Vinces lackey so he was always taking care of him. Then of course E has his job too.

They still party though. Real men don't let work get in the way of getting wasted all night.

In regards to Turtle. That's life. Sure he has something great with Jaime and he knows that and he knows that he would never do anything with that other girl. But when the temptation and attraction is there it's hard to just ignore it. So I understand his desires but I wouldn't understand it if he acted on those desires.

A-men, brother! I was out late last night, drinking with the boys (and some girls), and still made it to work by 7 this morning.

But being in my mid-30s, it's starting to wear on me..

It would be easy to understand, but that doesn't mean it would be a good choice.

I totally understand how and why people cheat. There are countless reasons why they do it, but it doesn't mean that they're NOT idiots for actually following through with it.