Dollhouse -- Season Finale -- "Omega" -- 5/8/09
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Too bad it's only 3. Still, any Amy Acker beats the hell out of no Amy Acker. I hope she has a bigger role on Happy Town than apparently the pilot suggests. If she has to leave the show where she was the most interesting person to play second fiddle smiling wife I'm going to be pissed. Unless it gets her in movies, in which case the winner is everyone.
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In a perfect world Amy Acker would be in everything, and we'd never have to sit through Jessica Alba be a scientist ever again. Seriously, how has she only had like three major roles in her life (and that's if you count her role on Dollhouse as major)?
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from /film:
I don't know how the awesome Denisof isn't cast in like a million movies. He deserves it.
If true, this is turning out to be the Whedon-verse all-stars!!
Despite being mostly tight-lipped when it came to revealing many of the story developments of the second season of Dollhouse, Joss Whedon did hint at it having “a couple of other faces you recognize.” As time wore on though, so did his penchant for secrecy. Whedon dropped two names: Alexis Denisof and Summer Glau. Now, any Buffy and Angel fans can attest to the greatness of Alexis Denisof, who played the bumbling “watcher” Wesley who was originally sent to look after Faith (played by Eliza Dushku). Whedon fans will surely enjoy that bit of TV synergy, but Summer Glau is naturally the real draw here.
Whedon made sure to clarify that, at this point, Glau is still a “maybe”. They’re still working out the details, but if everything goes as planned, she will indeed be on the show. I’m curious to see what part she ends up playing, because there’s a notable similarity between the blank-faced River (her character on Firefly) and the “dolls” (or “actives”) in Dollhouse. How interested would you guys be to see her play a “doll” on the show?
Whedon made sure to clarify that, at this point, Glau is still a “maybe”. They’re still working out the details, but if everything goes as planned, she will indeed be on the show. I’m curious to see what part she ends up playing, because there’s a notable similarity between the blank-faced River (her character on Firefly) and the “dolls” (or “actives”) in Dollhouse. How interested would you guys be to see her play a “doll” on the show?
If true, this is turning out to be the Whedon-verse all-stars!!
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I think I say that about every Whedon actor who doesn't get more roles (i.e. like all of them but Hannigan and Gellar, though Gellar needs to stop picking shitty movies). Acker is not only hotter than should be allowed by law, she can out-act damn near anyone she's put up against. Denisof and Marsters are also superb, and Marsters is just now appearing to age in his late 40s. It's wrong that Marsters' biggest movie role is a friend in P.S. I Love You. And Fillion? Oh for God's sake, that dude is a megastar waiting to happen.
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Re: Dollhouse -- Season Finale -- "Omega" -- 5/8/09
Dollhouse Comic Con Panel:
Part 1
Part 2
Part 3
Part 4
Part 5
Part 6
Part 7
TV Guide's Q & A with Joss Whedon:
http://www.tvguidemagazine.com/news/...on-2-1791.html
Radio Askew's podcast interview with Jed Whedon:
http://www.radioaskew.com/cast/ra61.mp3
Podcast interviews with Miracle Laurie:
Echo Alert
The SciFi Diner (start from 57:17)
Interviews with Eliza Dushku and Joss Whedon:
E! Online
G4
The Los Angeles Times interviews Dichen Lachman and Fran Kranz:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KpJjalpWRiA
TV Guide interviews Felicia Day:
http://link.brightcove.com/services/...id=30857919001
Coverage of the Dollhouse panel and reactions to "Epitaph One":
http://www.eonline.com/uberblog/watc...c-con_god.html
http://io9.com/5322494/dollhouse-bri...e-beg-for-more
http://blastmagazine.com/the-magazin...009-dollhouse/
http://sepinwall.blogspot.com/2009/0...-and-have.html
http://www.slashfilm.com/2009/07/24/...e-epitaph-one/
http://popwatch.ew.com/popwatch/2009...-comiccon.html
http://www.tvguide.com/News/Dollhous...i-1008428.aspx
http://tv.ign.com/articles/100/1005712p1.html
http://www.buddytv.com/articles/doll...tal-30274.aspx
http://featuresblogs.chicagotribune....itaph-one.html
http://thetvaddict.com/2009/07/24/co...rol-your-mind/
Casting call for the second episode of season 2:
http://spoilertv.blogspot.com/2009/0...2-casting.html
Part 1
Part 2
Part 3
Part 4
Part 5
Part 6
Part 7
TV Guide's Q & A with Joss Whedon:
http://www.tvguidemagazine.com/news/...on-2-1791.html
Radio Askew's podcast interview with Jed Whedon:
http://www.radioaskew.com/cast/ra61.mp3
Podcast interviews with Miracle Laurie:
Echo Alert
The SciFi Diner (start from 57:17)
Interviews with Eliza Dushku and Joss Whedon:
E! Online
G4
The Los Angeles Times interviews Dichen Lachman and Fran Kranz:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KpJjalpWRiA
TV Guide interviews Felicia Day:
http://link.brightcove.com/services/...id=30857919001
Coverage of the Dollhouse panel and reactions to "Epitaph One":
http://www.eonline.com/uberblog/watc...c-con_god.html
http://io9.com/5322494/dollhouse-bri...e-beg-for-more
http://blastmagazine.com/the-magazin...009-dollhouse/
http://sepinwall.blogspot.com/2009/0...-and-have.html
http://www.slashfilm.com/2009/07/24/...e-epitaph-one/
http://popwatch.ew.com/popwatch/2009...-comiccon.html
http://www.tvguide.com/News/Dollhous...i-1008428.aspx
http://tv.ign.com/articles/100/1005712p1.html
http://www.buddytv.com/articles/doll...tal-30274.aspx
http://featuresblogs.chicagotribune....itaph-one.html
http://thetvaddict.com/2009/07/24/co...rol-your-mind/
Casting call for the second episode of season 2:
http://spoilertv.blogspot.com/2009/0...2-casting.html
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Does anyone have pictures of the Comic-Con exclusive? I'd like to see what makes it so special compared to the regular set. A picture of the letter that was supposedly lenticular perhaps?
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Re: Dollhouse -- Season Finale -- "Omega" -- 5/8/09
Jamie Bamber (Lee "Apollo" Adama, Battlestar Galactica) will be guest starring on the season 2 premiere!
http://www.eonline.com/uberblog/watc...ollhouses.html
http://twitter.com/EWAusielloFiles/status/2878733009
http://community.livejournal.com/bam...ws/153897.html
http://www.eonline.com/uberblog/watc...ollhouses.html
http://twitter.com/EWAusielloFiles/status/2878733009
http://community.livejournal.com/bam...ws/153897.html
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Re: Dollhouse -- Season Finale -- "Omega" -- 5/8/09
Airlock Alpha's lengthy and informative video interview with Joss Whedon:
http://airlockalpha.com/node/6577
io9's three-part video interview with Joss Whedon:
http://io9.com/5326680/joss-whedon-o...-of-his-worlds
Wired's video interview with Joss Whedon and Eliza Dushku:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sUKX3V74IYQ
Digital City's interview with Maurissa Tancharoen Whedon:
http://www.digitalcity.com/2009/07/3...d-dr-horrible/
Eliza Dushku on Twitter:
http://airlockalpha.com/node/6577
io9's three-part video interview with Joss Whedon:
http://io9.com/5326680/joss-whedon-o...-of-his-worlds
Wired's video interview with Joss Whedon and Eliza Dushku:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sUKX3V74IYQ
Digital City's interview with Maurissa Tancharoen Whedon:
http://www.digitalcity.com/2009/07/3...d-dr-horrible/
Eliza Dushku on Twitter:
Episode 1 under our belt, folks- its as rad & bad as rock-n-roll baby! Unfrigginbelievable!! Ahhh. Pride.
http://twitter.com/ElizaPatricia/status/3063741315
http://twitter.com/ElizaPatricia/status/3063741315
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Re: Dollhouse -- Season Finale -- "Omega" -- 5/8/09
The Chicago Tribune's Maureen Ryan on Twitter:
More info on her blog:
http://featuresblogs.chicagotribune....ogan-tigh.html
Eliza Dushku on Twitter:
Maurissa Tancharoen Whedon on Twitter:
Tim Minear on Facebook:
The title of episode 2 is "Belle Chose".
The Television Critics Association visits the set of Dollhouse:
http://www.hitfix.com/blogs/2008-12-...-dollhouse-set
http://www.nj.com/entertainment/tv/i..._joss_whe.html
http://ifmagazine.com/new.asp?article=8456
A video interview with Enver Gjokaj and Dichen Lachman (over 8 minutes long) and more TCA coverage:
http://featuresblogs.chicagotribune....pect-next.html
Michael Hogan--Col Tigh from Battlestar Galactica--will guest star in the 2nd episode of #Dollhouse Season 2. Yes!!
http://twitter.com/moryan/status/3080669204
http://twitter.com/moryan/status/3080669204
http://featuresblogs.chicagotribune....ogan-tigh.html
Eliza Dushku on Twitter:
I concur with @elizapatricia. Minear's ep 2 is insanely awesome.
http://twitter.com/MoTancharoen/status/3057446257
http://twitter.com/MoTancharoen/status/3057446257
Not directing this time. David Solomon! First script of mine he's directed since "Out Of Gas," and that seemed to go pretty well.
http://www.facebook.com/tim.minear
http://www.facebook.com/tim.minear
The Television Critics Association visits the set of Dollhouse:
http://www.hitfix.com/blogs/2008-12-...-dollhouse-set
http://www.nj.com/entertainment/tv/i..._joss_whe.html
http://ifmagazine.com/new.asp?article=8456
A video interview with Enver Gjokaj and Dichen Lachman (over 8 minutes long) and more TCA coverage:
http://featuresblogs.chicagotribune....pect-next.html
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Why do I love Joss Whedon? I'll tell you. His shows always get better the second time you watch them.
Having just rewatched all the episodes on DVD, there were several things I was able to catch knowing the whole story (as told so far...) that were seemingly innocent the first time around. Most significantly: the big reveal at the end of "Needs" takes on a whole new level after knowing who Whiskey is. Everyone sits in the room and listens to Dr. Saunder's idea of how to give the dolls closure and hopefully stop the anomalous behaviors. What Dr. Saunders doesn't realize (but everyone else in the room does) is she is perhaps uniquely qualified to come up with that idea.
It is just fun to see it all fit together again. So many other shows have things exist for an episode and then are never mentioned again. Or even worse, have things early on that you later have to ignore to make things work down the road. Joss (and team) makes it look flawless. There's a tiny forgettable line in the second episode, that if reworded any other way may have caused things to conflict later. In the flashback to the Alpha "event" in that episode there's the line (I may be paraphrasing) "Dr. Saunder's looks like a jigsaw puzzle" which when originally viewed seems to refer to Amy Acker's scars, but takes a very different and darker meaning after viewing the season finale. Brilliant bit of storytelling there, that lets the viewer hear what they're expecting to hear, but leaves a big enough hole for the twist down the line.
Having just rewatched all the episodes on DVD, there were several things I was able to catch knowing the whole story (as told so far...) that were seemingly innocent the first time around. Most significantly: the big reveal at the end of "Needs" takes on a whole new level after knowing who Whiskey is. Everyone sits in the room and listens to Dr. Saunder's idea of how to give the dolls closure and hopefully stop the anomalous behaviors. What Dr. Saunders doesn't realize (but everyone else in the room does) is she is perhaps uniquely qualified to come up with that idea.
It is just fun to see it all fit together again. So many other shows have things exist for an episode and then are never mentioned again. Or even worse, have things early on that you later have to ignore to make things work down the road. Joss (and team) makes it look flawless. There's a tiny forgettable line in the second episode, that if reworded any other way may have caused things to conflict later. In the flashback to the Alpha "event" in that episode there's the line (I may be paraphrasing) "Dr. Saunder's looks like a jigsaw puzzle" which when originally viewed seems to refer to Amy Acker's scars, but takes a very different and darker meaning after viewing the season finale. Brilliant bit of storytelling there, that lets the viewer hear what they're expecting to hear, but leaves a big enough hole for the twist down the line.
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Casting call for episode 3:
http://spoilertv.blogspot.com/2009/0...ting-call.html
http://spoilertv.blogspot.com/2009/0...dditional.html
Casting call for episode 4 "Belonging":
http://spoilertv.blogspot.com/2009/0...g-casting.html
Sci Fi Wire:
iFMagazine:
http://spoilertv.blogspot.com/2009/0...ting-call.html
http://spoilertv.blogspot.com/2009/0...dditional.html
Casting call for episode 4 "Belonging":
http://spoilertv.blogspot.com/2009/0...g-casting.html
Sci Fi Wire:
How Dollhouse's 'lost episode' will drive season two
When Joss Whedon wrote and filmed the post-apocalyptic Dollhouse episode "Epitaph One," it was entirely possible it would be the final episode in the Fox series.
So when Fox picked up a second season of the sci-fi series, Whedon instead intended to use the "Epitaph" storyline as the jumping-off point to drive the new season's arcs. But the episode ended up only on the season-one DVD/Blu-ray set (it also screened at Comic-Con), complicating any plans to use it to inform the second season's stories.
Nevertheless, Fran Kranz—who plays doll programmer Topher—confirmed that producers still plan to go there, even though there's a part of the audience who only watched the episodes that aired on Fox last season. (Possible spoilers ahead.)
"We're really going to move forward towards where 'Epitaph One' ended, and we're heading towards the apocalypse," Kranz said in an exclusive interview Thursday at the Television Critics Association summer press tour in Pasadena, Calif. "It's still going to go according to [Whedon's] plan."
"Epitaph One" takes place in the year 2019 in what appears to be a Los Angeles ravaged by some kind of apocalypse. Survivors, led by Felicia Day's Mag, discover the abandoned Dollhouse underground. Flashbacks fill in the period between our time and 2019, suggesting that the technology developed by the Dollhouse has led to massive mindwipes and identity replacement, culminating in war and chaos.
Though the episode never aired, it will inform the new season, Kranz said. "Felicia, her character and her world, is in the first episode of season [two]," he said. "So we're sticking with it. Things could change. We could always play it out a little differently if we wanted to, but that's the trajectory we're on. My character kind of loses his mind in ['Epitaph One'], feeling the weight of what he's done—the technology he invented destroying the world—and he kind of feels bad about it. We're kind of already heading there in the second season."
Even without jumping ahead, Topher has a lot to answer for when Dollhouse returns. Dr. Saunders (Amy Acker) learned she was a doll, whom Topher programmed to hate him.
"In season two, we address that pretty much immediately," Kranz said. "Dr. Saunders—Amy Acker and I, who's the best—we work across the hall from each other, so we can't avoid each other. All that kind of awkwardness ensues, and it gets pretty dark. I have to answer to her eventually. That's going to be really exciting. Right now, Topher's a little down on himself, and he's starting to think like, 'Wow, one of the most beautiful things I created hates me. Maybe I'm a bad guy.'"
That certainly indicates that Topher is still on a dark path that could lead to the apocalypse of "Epitaph One." "Look, it's a provocative show," Kranz said. "The technology, when you really choose to think about it and its consequences, is really provocative. We're definitely exploring that much more this season."
The second season represents one last chance for Dollhouse to capture a sizable audience. "It's like second life, and we're really going for broke in the second season," Kranz said. "It's really going to be out there. It's really twisted. It's much darker. We're really taking advantage of the opportunity, so I'm pumped. Certainly it's getting more into the characters. They're no longer really stand-alone [episodes]."
Dollhouse returns Sept. 25 at 9 p.m. on Fox.
http://scifiwire.com/2009/08/how-dol...lost-episo.php
When Joss Whedon wrote and filmed the post-apocalyptic Dollhouse episode "Epitaph One," it was entirely possible it would be the final episode in the Fox series.
So when Fox picked up a second season of the sci-fi series, Whedon instead intended to use the "Epitaph" storyline as the jumping-off point to drive the new season's arcs. But the episode ended up only on the season-one DVD/Blu-ray set (it also screened at Comic-Con), complicating any plans to use it to inform the second season's stories.
Nevertheless, Fran Kranz—who plays doll programmer Topher—confirmed that producers still plan to go there, even though there's a part of the audience who only watched the episodes that aired on Fox last season. (Possible spoilers ahead.)
"We're really going to move forward towards where 'Epitaph One' ended, and we're heading towards the apocalypse," Kranz said in an exclusive interview Thursday at the Television Critics Association summer press tour in Pasadena, Calif. "It's still going to go according to [Whedon's] plan."
"Epitaph One" takes place in the year 2019 in what appears to be a Los Angeles ravaged by some kind of apocalypse. Survivors, led by Felicia Day's Mag, discover the abandoned Dollhouse underground. Flashbacks fill in the period between our time and 2019, suggesting that the technology developed by the Dollhouse has led to massive mindwipes and identity replacement, culminating in war and chaos.
Though the episode never aired, it will inform the new season, Kranz said. "Felicia, her character and her world, is in the first episode of season [two]," he said. "So we're sticking with it. Things could change. We could always play it out a little differently if we wanted to, but that's the trajectory we're on. My character kind of loses his mind in ['Epitaph One'], feeling the weight of what he's done—the technology he invented destroying the world—and he kind of feels bad about it. We're kind of already heading there in the second season."
Even without jumping ahead, Topher has a lot to answer for when Dollhouse returns. Dr. Saunders (Amy Acker) learned she was a doll, whom Topher programmed to hate him.
"In season two, we address that pretty much immediately," Kranz said. "Dr. Saunders—Amy Acker and I, who's the best—we work across the hall from each other, so we can't avoid each other. All that kind of awkwardness ensues, and it gets pretty dark. I have to answer to her eventually. That's going to be really exciting. Right now, Topher's a little down on himself, and he's starting to think like, 'Wow, one of the most beautiful things I created hates me. Maybe I'm a bad guy.'"
That certainly indicates that Topher is still on a dark path that could lead to the apocalypse of "Epitaph One." "Look, it's a provocative show," Kranz said. "The technology, when you really choose to think about it and its consequences, is really provocative. We're definitely exploring that much more this season."
The second season represents one last chance for Dollhouse to capture a sizable audience. "It's like second life, and we're really going for broke in the second season," Kranz said. "It's really going to be out there. It's really twisted. It's much darker. We're really taking advantage of the opportunity, so I'm pumped. Certainly it's getting more into the characters. They're no longer really stand-alone [episodes]."
Dollhouse returns Sept. 25 at 9 p.m. on Fox.
http://scifiwire.com/2009/08/how-dol...lost-episo.php
'DOLLHOUSE' SCOOP ON THE SECOND SEASON - Breaking TCA 2009 News
As far as creatively, Reilly says that early on last season, Whedon was certainly struggling trying to find the voice of the show, but commends the creator in figuring out a way to make DOLLHOUSE work.
“I don’t think he was having any fun and we were a big part of that, and ultimately once he hit his stride, I don’t think we spoke,” says Reilly. “It was an ambitious show. It wasn’t a straight ahead linear concept. I felt that struggle and challenged him on some things and he completely engaged on it, gave it thought and attempted to address it. I think it did very well and it never came down to ‘you’re trying to make me do a show I don’t want to do.’ It never came to that place. I can’t say enough good things about him.”
As for the Friday time slot, Reilly says the low expectations on Friday night also factored into the second season renewal.
“There’s less pressure on it and when we told Joss what we were going to do, ‘we can give you better time slots, but you’re going to be under a lot of pressure’ I believe what he said to me, ‘I’m actually comfortable staying on, rather than having a bigger rating and the pressure of not being able to see the order through,’” adds Reilly.
That said, Reilly says he would be happy with the same numbers from last year to give him confidence to order the back nine and perhaps even a third season.
"We want the same stability we had last year," says Reilly. "The same ratings would be just fine. We’re looking at the cume as well. I’d like to see it continue its creative consistency, which I believe it will and I want to see a show we can lock in to week in and week out."
There was concern from the fan community that Fox not airing the “Epitaph One” episode was a sign the show was doomed, but Reilly notes it was financial more than anything.
“They had an extra episode to round out their order on the DVD and it’s an extra license fee last year we didn’t want to pay,” reveals Reilly.
And finally, with the show back for Season 2, budget cuts were inevitable which Reilly says won’t affect the overall production.
“They had to trim the budget a bit,” says Reilly. “I don’t think it will change anything. Joss is an outstanding producer. He knows how to do this. He’s way ahead of it. It comes under the heading of smart producing. This is not a guy who is going to say ‘I’m going to do a lesser show’ and the audience is going to say ‘Joss, what have you done?’ It’s not incumbent on him to make the same show efficiently.”
http://ifmagazine.com/new.asp?article=8505
As far as creatively, Reilly says that early on last season, Whedon was certainly struggling trying to find the voice of the show, but commends the creator in figuring out a way to make DOLLHOUSE work.
“I don’t think he was having any fun and we were a big part of that, and ultimately once he hit his stride, I don’t think we spoke,” says Reilly. “It was an ambitious show. It wasn’t a straight ahead linear concept. I felt that struggle and challenged him on some things and he completely engaged on it, gave it thought and attempted to address it. I think it did very well and it never came down to ‘you’re trying to make me do a show I don’t want to do.’ It never came to that place. I can’t say enough good things about him.”
As for the Friday time slot, Reilly says the low expectations on Friday night also factored into the second season renewal.
“There’s less pressure on it and when we told Joss what we were going to do, ‘we can give you better time slots, but you’re going to be under a lot of pressure’ I believe what he said to me, ‘I’m actually comfortable staying on, rather than having a bigger rating and the pressure of not being able to see the order through,’” adds Reilly.
That said, Reilly says he would be happy with the same numbers from last year to give him confidence to order the back nine and perhaps even a third season.
"We want the same stability we had last year," says Reilly. "The same ratings would be just fine. We’re looking at the cume as well. I’d like to see it continue its creative consistency, which I believe it will and I want to see a show we can lock in to week in and week out."
There was concern from the fan community that Fox not airing the “Epitaph One” episode was a sign the show was doomed, but Reilly notes it was financial more than anything.
“They had an extra episode to round out their order on the DVD and it’s an extra license fee last year we didn’t want to pay,” reveals Reilly.
And finally, with the show back for Season 2, budget cuts were inevitable which Reilly says won’t affect the overall production.
“They had to trim the budget a bit,” says Reilly. “I don’t think it will change anything. Joss is an outstanding producer. He knows how to do this. He’s way ahead of it. It comes under the heading of smart producing. This is not a guy who is going to say ‘I’m going to do a lesser show’ and the audience is going to say ‘Joss, what have you done?’ It’s not incumbent on him to make the same show efficiently.”
http://ifmagazine.com/new.asp?article=8505
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wow.. Joss just doesn't get it does he?
Let's proceed with events that occur on an episode that LESS people watched than the original series during it's initial run (which wasn't very many in the first place). WISE BUSINESS MOVIE DICKHEAD. Are you TRYING to run this show into the ground?
You've been given a stay of execution, moron... build on the current (small) fanbase, and draw MORE people in... not less, by alienating some of the "on the fence" fans, like me, that have no desire to own/rewatch S1 on DVD, therefore won't be watching "Epitaph One"... (and no, sorry, I have no interest in downloading it and sitting behind my 17" computer monitor to watch it, rather than my 56" HDTV.
Joss, you're a fucking idiot dude.. seriously.
Let's proceed with events that occur on an episode that LESS people watched than the original series during it's initial run (which wasn't very many in the first place). WISE BUSINESS MOVIE DICKHEAD. Are you TRYING to run this show into the ground?
You've been given a stay of execution, moron... build on the current (small) fanbase, and draw MORE people in... not less, by alienating some of the "on the fence" fans, like me, that have no desire to own/rewatch S1 on DVD, therefore won't be watching "Epitaph One"... (and no, sorry, I have no interest in downloading it and sitting behind my 17" computer monitor to watch it, rather than my 56" HDTV.
Joss, you're a fucking idiot dude.. seriously.
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Re: Dollhouse -- Season Finale -- "Omega" -- 5/8/09
wow.. Joss just doesn't get it does he?
Let's proceed with events that occur on an episode that LESS people watched than the original series during it's initial run (which wasn't very many in the first place). WISE BUSINESS MOVIE DICKHEAD. Are you TRYING to run this show into the ground?
You've been given a stay of execution, moron... build on the current (small) fanbase, and draw MORE people in... not less, by alienating some of the "on the fence" fans, like me, that have no desire to own/rewatch S1 on DVD, therefore won't be watching "Epitaph One"... (and no, sorry, I have no interest in downloading it and sitting behind my 17" computer monitor to watch it, rather than my 56" HDTV.
Joss, you're a fucking idiot dude.. seriously.
Let's proceed with events that occur on an episode that LESS people watched than the original series during it's initial run (which wasn't very many in the first place). WISE BUSINESS MOVIE DICKHEAD. Are you TRYING to run this show into the ground?
You've been given a stay of execution, moron... build on the current (small) fanbase, and draw MORE people in... not less, by alienating some of the "on the fence" fans, like me, that have no desire to own/rewatch S1 on DVD, therefore won't be watching "Epitaph One"... (and no, sorry, I have no interest in downloading it and sitting behind my 17" computer monitor to watch it, rather than my 56" HDTV.
Joss, you're a fucking idiot dude.. seriously.
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Re: Dollhouse -- Season Finale -- "Omega" -- 5/8/09
I think you misunderstood. What I got from that article is that Epitath One will be to season two what Echo was to season one. It's the prototype to what will be the overall story arc of season two. I doubt season two will begin right were Epitath One left off. Rather, we'll see Felicia Day's character in the season opener and her character will be brushed aside (for the moment). Then other story elements from Epitath One will be gradually integrated into the season until the season ender finds the characters in the setting where Epitath One took place. Finally, they'll probably end the second season with a retooled version of Epitath One.
Relative to Angel:
Spoiler:
#168
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Re: Dollhouse -- Season Finale -- "Omega" -- 5/8/09
just finished the Bd set (haven't seen the original pilot yet but did watch Epitaph).
I wasn't paying attention to the evolution of this show or the week to week chatter about it as it aired. I consider myself a Whedon fan due to Buffy and a lesser extent Firefly- but when I heard the premise of this, I didn't see beyond the formula hook of new costume/new mission op of the week formula.
I also liked Tru Calling, which was very formula for most of it's run, and I guess that's what I expected this to be more of.
That seemed confirmed by the first half of the season. However I was pleasantly surprised by how much deeper into the premise they went in the second half. Although looking back, I think the series as a whole definitely benefits from setting up the superficial formula (even in an inane episode/circumstance like Stage Fright) because breaking out beyond that creates even more impact by the contrast.
Also the hints to the larger philosophical, spiritual, religious, political, and ethical questions this premise creates I found very tantalizing.
Unfortunately it looks like these will be seriously undercut in the future by having to deal with the genre cliche fallout from Epitaph.
I wasn't paying attention to the evolution of this show or the week to week chatter about it as it aired. I consider myself a Whedon fan due to Buffy and a lesser extent Firefly- but when I heard the premise of this, I didn't see beyond the formula hook of new costume/new mission op of the week formula.
I also liked Tru Calling, which was very formula for most of it's run, and I guess that's what I expected this to be more of.
That seemed confirmed by the first half of the season. However I was pleasantly surprised by how much deeper into the premise they went in the second half. Although looking back, I think the series as a whole definitely benefits from setting up the superficial formula (even in an inane episode/circumstance like Stage Fright) because breaking out beyond that creates even more impact by the contrast.
Also the hints to the larger philosophical, spiritual, religious, political, and ethical questions this premise creates I found very tantalizing.
Unfortunately it looks like these will be seriously undercut in the future by having to deal with the genre cliche fallout from Epitaph.
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Re: Dollhouse -- Season Finale -- "Omega" -- 5/8/09
A similar dynamic was at work in the Star Wars prequel movies, where part of the thrill (perhaps the only thrill for many of us) was seeing the developing of something we knew to be inevitable. And many of my favorite moments in "Smallville" are those that herald major epic milestones in the Superman mythos, such as when he throws the shard and creates the Fortress. Joss has created an apocalyptic future as a mythic touchstone, and we get to watch as the world slowly goes to hell in a handbasket. What could be better?
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Re: Dollhouse -- Season Finale -- "Omega" -- 5/8/09
Jonathan Frakes is directing an episode of Dollhouse:
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Re: Dollhouse -- Season Finale -- "Omega" -- 5/8/09
Keith Carradine will be appearing in at least two episodes this season:
http://ausiellofiles.ew.com/2009/08/...ers-dollhouse/
http://blog.zap2it.com/frominsidethe...n-october.html
The character he'll be playing:
Official season 2 poster:
http://reporter.blogs.com/.a/6a00d83...50e5aaa970b-pi
Eliza Dushku promo pics:
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v1...n-2-yellow.jpg
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v1...yellow-gun.jpg
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v1...-dangerous.jpg
http://ausiellofiles.ew.com/2009/08/...ers-dollhouse/
http://blog.zap2it.com/frominsidethe...n-october.html
The character he'll be playing:
[MATTHEW HARDING] Male, mid 30s to mid 50s. A powerful businessman, MUST HAVE STRONG PRESENCE. Please submit all ethnicities. GUEST STAR, PROBABLE RECURRING.
http://reporter.blogs.com/.a/6a00d83...50e5aaa970b-pi
Eliza Dushku promo pics:
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v1...n-2-yellow.jpg
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v1...yellow-gun.jpg
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v1...-dangerous.jpg
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Re: Dollhouse -- Season Finale -- "Omega" -- 5/8/09
Keith Carradine will be appearing in at least two episodes this season:
http://ausiellofiles.ew.com/2009/08/...ers-dollhouse/
A description of the character he'll be playing:
Official season 2 poster:
http://reporter.blogs.com/.a/6a00d83...50e5aaa970b-pi
Eliza Dushku promo pics:
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v1...n-2-yellow.jpg
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v1...yellow-gun.jpg
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v1...-dangerous.jpg
http://ausiellofiles.ew.com/2009/08/...ers-dollhouse/
A description of the character he'll be playing:
Official season 2 poster:
http://reporter.blogs.com/.a/6a00d83...50e5aaa970b-pi
Eliza Dushku promo pics:
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v1...n-2-yellow.jpg
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v1...yellow-gun.jpg
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v1...-dangerous.jpg
I hope this season is more like the last half of the first and doesn't end each week with Eliza looking like she got hit on the head with a shovel.
to Keith Carradine. It's a shame David Carradine is dead, he would be an awesome presence. It's cool how Whedon realizes his fanbase and is doing as much as possible to please them.
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Re: Dollhouse -- Season Finale -- "Omega" -- 5/8/09
Summer Glau joins the cast of Dollhouse in episode 5:
http://www.thefutoncritic.com/news.a...=20090827fox01
http://www.hitfix.com/articles/2009-...-the-dollhouse
http://www.aintitcool.com/node/42174
http://www.dollverse.com/2009/08/off...dollhouse.html
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v1...bamber-gun.jpg
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v1...hokes-echo.jpg
Access Hollywood's interview with Joss Whedon:
http://www.accesshollywood.com/dish-..._video_1140723
and Eliza Dushku:
http://www.accesshollywood.com/dish-..._video_1149946
E! Online's interviews with Fran Kranz & Dichen Lachman and Enver Gjokaj & Olivia Williams:
http://au.eonline.com/uberblog/watch...d_Sexquot.html
TV Guide's interview with Eliza Dushku:
http://www.tvguidemagazine.com/news/...on-2-2145.html
Hulu's "The Faces Of Echo" with Jane Lynch:
http://www.hulu.com/watch/92063/dollhouse-faces-of-echo
Chicago Tribune's Dollhouse intel:
http://featuresblogs.chicagotribune....dollhouse.html
Episode 1 - "Vows"
Written and directed by Joss Whedon
Episode 2 - "Belle Chose"
Written by Tim Minear
Directed by David Solomon
Episode 3 - "Instinct"
Written by Michele Fazekas & Tara Butters
Episode 4 - "Belonging"
Written by Maurissa Tancharoen & Jed Whedon
Directed by Jonathan Frakes
Episode 5 - "The Public Eye"
Episode description for "Vows":
Episode description for "Belle Chose":
http://www.thefutoncritic.com/news.a...=20090827fox01
http://www.hitfix.com/articles/2009-...-the-dollhouse
http://www.aintitcool.com/node/42174
http://www.dollverse.com/2009/08/off...dollhouse.html
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v1...bamber-gun.jpg
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v1...hokes-echo.jpg
Access Hollywood's interview with Joss Whedon:
http://www.accesshollywood.com/dish-..._video_1140723
and Eliza Dushku:
http://www.accesshollywood.com/dish-..._video_1149946
E! Online's interviews with Fran Kranz & Dichen Lachman and Enver Gjokaj & Olivia Williams:
http://au.eonline.com/uberblog/watch...d_Sexquot.html
TV Guide's interview with Eliza Dushku:
http://www.tvguidemagazine.com/news/...on-2-2145.html
Hulu's "The Faces Of Echo" with Jane Lynch:
http://www.hulu.com/watch/92063/dollhouse-faces-of-echo
Chicago Tribune's Dollhouse intel:
http://featuresblogs.chicagotribune....dollhouse.html
Episode 1 - "Vows"
Written and directed by Joss Whedon
Episode 2 - "Belle Chose"
Written by Tim Minear
Directed by David Solomon
Episode 3 - "Instinct"
Written by Michele Fazekas & Tara Butters
Episode 4 - "Belonging"
Written by Maurissa Tancharoen & Jed Whedon
Directed by Jonathan Frakes
Episode 5 - "The Public Eye"
Episode description for "Vows":
Picking up a few months after the Season 1 finale, Echo (Eliza Dushku) is the new bride of a charismatic businessman (guest star Jamie Bamber), who is tied to an old FBI case that Paul (Tahmoh Penikett) was unable to close. Meanwhile, Dr. Saunders struggles with her discovery that she is a Doll and targets Topher. Written and directed by Joss Whedon.
Michael Hogan guest stars as a client of the Dollhouse who comes to Adelle (Olivia Williams) for help with a psychotic family member. Topher (Fran Kranz) accidentally crosses Echo and Victor’s (Enver Gjokaj) imprints while they're on different assignments.
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Re: Dollhouse -- Season Finale -- "Omega" -- 5/8/09
I just watched Epitaph One finally, and I must say I really enjoyed it. Definitely one of the better episodes and I'd have no problem with them going that route for season 2.
Now, do I even bother with the unaired Pilot, or just skip it?
Now, do I even bother with the unaired Pilot, or just skip it?
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Re: Dollhouse -- Season Finale -- "Omega" -- 5/8/09
Keith Carradine will be appearing in at least two episodes this season:
http://ausiellofiles.ew.com/2009/08/...ers-dollhouse/
http://blog.zap2it.com/frominsidethe...n-october.html
The character he'll be playing:
Official season 2 poster:
http://reporter.blogs.com/.a/6a00d83...50e5aaa970b-pi
Eliza Dushku promo pics:
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v1...n-2-yellow.jpg
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v1...yellow-gun.jpg
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v1...-dangerous.jpg
http://ausiellofiles.ew.com/2009/08/...ers-dollhouse/
http://blog.zap2it.com/frominsidethe...n-october.html
The character he'll be playing:
Official season 2 poster:
http://reporter.blogs.com/.a/6a00d83...50e5aaa970b-pi
Eliza Dushku promo pics:
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v1...n-2-yellow.jpg
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v1...yellow-gun.jpg
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v1...-dangerous.jpg