Lost -- "Dead is Dead" -- 04/08/09
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Re: Lost -- "Dead is Dead" -- 04/08/09
Also, is everyone assuming that the guns were in the crate? I didn't...they look like old Others weapons. The redshirt just said "They found guns." I have no idea what was in the crate.
And that reminds me...am I the only one that thinks it's hilarious that this new group of people crashed on the island, and quickly found and started using the housing with electricity...and didn't think that was weird? Remember when the original plane crashed and it was this huge reveal that there was a hatch and some modern conveniences on the island? Now it's just like "yeah, we found a house. The lights work. No big deal."
And that reminds me...am I the only one that thinks it's hilarious that this new group of people crashed on the island, and quickly found and started using the housing with electricity...and didn't think that was weird? Remember when the original plane crashed and it was this huge reveal that there was a hatch and some modern conveniences on the island? Now it's just like "yeah, we found a house. The lights work. No big deal."
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Re: Lost -- "Dead is Dead" -- 04/08/09
That was basically my first thought but we know the statue isn't on the island these folks are on. And we don't know if they can even see it from their vantage.
So, more likely, they're another group of people with an agenda... That's getting a little old, imho. Ceasar was a douchebag, but if we accept that he was hired by someone to be there for a reason, it would explain why he was so adamant about being in charge.
So, more likely, they're another group of people with an agenda... That's getting a little old, imho. Ceasar was a douchebag, but if we accept that he was hired by someone to be there for a reason, it would explain why he was so adamant about being in charge.
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Re: Lost -- "Dead is Dead" -- 04/08/09
It doesn't matter if they can see it or not. It's a password that was given to them by Widmore for sure. They know the answer but nothing more. They just need to be able to gather their people on the island and my guess is start a takeover. This is the beginning of Widmore's war he was talking about to Locke.
Maybe I'm wrong. There's just a lot of jumping to conclusions here based on little to no evidence.
Something's up, that much is for sure.
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Re: Lost -- "Dead is Dead" -- 04/08/09
i totally spaced at one part...after Desmond beat the crap out of Ben and threw him in the water...what happened? did he get out and kill Penny?
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Re: Lost -- "Dead is Dead" -- 04/08/09
What? I didn't get that they've changed anything at all... all of this is happening because it HAPPENED. Ben has always had these same events happen in his childhood, so I'm pretty sure he's still going to gas all of Dharma. What indicates that anything in the past has changed the timeline?
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Re: Lost -- "Dead is Dead" -- 04/08/09
Ben was pushing a young (3, 4, 5?) Alex (born 88/89) on a swing in Dharmaville and Richard walked freely up. Of course The Purge (12/19/92) still happened.
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Re: Lost -- "Dead is Dead" -- 04/08/09
I am not saying this isn't true. It just leaves little time and room for error for Charles to get all these people together and on this particular flight when, as far as we know, only Mrs. Hawking knew this flight would cross paths with the moving island and (according to Charles himself) he wasn't in contact with Eloise at all when he sent Desmond that way. Maybe that was a lie or changed, who knows. Maybe he has his own team for finding the island and came to the same Flight 316 conclusion but, as I recall, it was the presence of 5/6 of the O6 and a dead John Locke that created the opening.
Maybe I'm wrong. There's just a lot of jumping to conclusions here based on little to no evidence.
Something's up, that much is for sure.
Maybe I'm wrong. There's just a lot of jumping to conclusions here based on little to no evidence.
Something's up, that much is for sure.
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Re: Lost -- "Dead is Dead" -- 04/08/09
I'm pretty sure Penny is fine. The apology to Desmond was for shooting him.
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Re: Lost -- "Dead is Dead" -- 04/08/09
I can buy memories being "created"...but physical objects is a little much. Of course the whole thing is stupid but that's what they've decided to do so I guess we just have to go with it.
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Re: Lost -- "Dead is Dead" -- 04/08/09
But it's also creating new objects like the photo? So that photo wasn't there and then suddenly poofed into existence when the Losties went back in time?
I can buy memories being "created"...but physical objects is a little much. Of course the whole thing is stupid but that's what they've decided to do so I guess we just have to go with it.
I can buy memories being "created"...but physical objects is a little much. Of course the whole thing is stupid but that's what they've decided to do so I guess we just have to go with it.
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Re: Lost -- "Dead is Dead" -- 04/08/09
The bullet hit the milk jug. The liquid probably deflected the shot off course.
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Re: Lost -- "Dead is Dead" -- 04/08/09
And that reminds me...am I the only one that thinks it's hilarious that this new group of people crashed on the island, and quickly found and started using the housing with electricity...and didn't think that was weird? Remember when the original plane crashed and it was this huge reveal that there was a hatch and some modern conveniences on the island? Now it's just like "yeah, we found a house. The lights work. No big deal."
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Re: Lost -- "Dead is Dead" -- 04/08/09
But maybe Ben went back in time, prevented Desmond & Penny from having a child, then came back to the dock in the future to shoot her! You never know with these writers!
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Re: Lost -- "Dead is Dead" -- 04/08/09
Ben had no knowledge then of the survivors that just crashed will eventually go back in time to his past.
The picture was a relic of the past to Ben and certainly not worth remembering a bunch of people that either left or died on the island 12 years or more before.
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Re: Lost -- "Dead is Dead" -- 04/08/09
It also seems as though a lot of people are unable or unwilling to grasp the meaning of the "whatever happened, happened" statement that's been made several times on the show, explained on the show, and used as an episode title. The future/present has not and does not change.
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Re: Lost -- "Dead is Dead" -- 04/08/09
They were standing around the crate when Lapidus came up to them, and we saw earlier that they didn't want Ben helping them with it, which indicates that they had reason to keep other people away from it.
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Re: Lost -- "Dead is Dead" -- 04/08/09
A young Ethan was with Ben when he kidnapped Baby Alex. If Ethan was born in the Dharma camp, how'd he end up over there? Is there speculation that Ethan's Mom used to be an Other that defected? When she was introduced on the show, Others were throwing a sack over her head to kidnap her. Maybe trying to take her back? The kidnapping happened before the purge, right?
We also learned in this episode where Smokey lives and that its not some kind of Dharma experiment gone bad. I like how the buzzing / clicking noise it makes are charges of electricity as it moves. I thought that was pretty cool.
Did this ep wrap up Desmond & Penny's storyline, assuming Ben didn't kill Penny after he was dumped in the water, which doesn't seem likely to me. If not, I wonder how they'll fit them in now.
We also learned in this episode where Smokey lives and that its not some kind of Dharma experiment gone bad. I like how the buzzing / clicking noise it makes are charges of electricity as it moves. I thought that was pretty cool.
Did this ep wrap up Desmond & Penny's storyline, assuming Ben didn't kill Penny after he was dumped in the water, which doesn't seem likely to me. If not, I wonder how they'll fit them in now.