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Matthew Ackerly 03-05-09 07:20 AM

Re: Lost -- "LaFleur" -- 3/4/09
 
This was a great episode.

Slowed the pace of the season down a bit and took the story into its new arc...

And the last scene of this episode became one of my favorite moments of the show.

And Holloway showed off some serious acting chops...

JZ1276 03-05-09 07:24 AM

Re: Lost -- "LaFleur" -- 3/4/09
 

Originally Posted by GenPion (Post 9306957)
I think this still hasn't happened yet. I'm not convinced the Ben has arrived on the island yet. But we'll see. This definitely went through my mind tonight. I bet we'll find out in the next couple of weeks. At least, I REALLY hope so.

He HAD to have come to the island at that point. When he first spoke to Richard he was about 11-12. I think he did the purge when he was around 20. If tonights episode took place in 1974 that means the purge didnt happen until the mid 80's.

majorjoe23 03-05-09 07:26 AM

Re: Lost -- "LaFleur" -- 3/4/09
 

Originally Posted by TheNightFlier (Post 9306730)
Another person watching with us suggested that Richard with the eyeliner reminded her of how they portrayed Egyptian men in movies. A little out there but that's the fun part about coming up with theories about Lost.

I loved Sawyer's quote about "Your friend with the mascara" or something like that.

During the first scene I was going nuts for some Utz.

JZ1276 03-05-09 07:26 AM

Re: Lost -- "LaFleur" -- 3/4/09
 

Originally Posted by Son of Odin (Post 9307002)
if anyone caught the preview for the next episode there's a scene where a person inside one of the dharma houses is closing the door. it looks like christian. you only see a glimpse of the person closing it but it certainly looks like him. since the purge happens in the middle to late 80's, i'm guessing ben and his father should be arriving on the island any day now since it's 1977, right? sawyer told juliette it's 1974 when they first get the chance to ride the sub of of dodge, three years later and it's 77. considering ben is in his early 20's when the purge happens, he should be arriving at what age, 12?

wait..it did happen in the mid 80's?
this time travel back and forth is confusing the shit out of me.

B.A. 03-05-09 07:34 AM

Re: Lost -- "LaFleur" -- 3/4/09
 
Loved the ep - the best of the season by far. Very happy to see that it revolved around two of my favorite characters, and that two characters that I can't stand were nowhere to be found.

Liked the reveal of the statue and the ankh. Maybe that explains Richard's eye-liner fetish.

Palaver 03-05-09 07:35 AM

Re: Lost -- "LaFleur" -- 3/4/09
 

Originally Posted by JZ1276 (Post 9306905)
When we saw Richard in a previous season's episode when they show Ben's backstory, Richard comes from the jungle with long hair and in dirty clothes. This had to have happened before seeing Richard in tonight's episode where he looks like his dapper usual self. What sense could that make?

I thinking the truce must have broke down by the time Ben arrives and there is a minor war going on. Might explain Richard's disheveled look at that episode.

DamingR 03-05-09 07:54 AM

Re: Lost -- "LaFleur" -- 3/4/09
 

Originally Posted by majorjoe23 (Post 9307068)
During the first scene I was going nuts for some Utz.

Me too! I couldn't believe Jimmy ended up as a security guy on the island!

B.A. 03-05-09 07:58 AM

Re: Lost -- "LaFleur" -- 3/4/09
 
Finally caught up on the whole thread - I had completely forgotten about Samantha Mathis's character and that she was Horace's wife.

ivelostr2 03-05-09 08:05 AM

Re: Lost -- "LaFleur" -- 3/4/09
 

Originally Posted by ivelostr2 (Post 9306903)
the first links are to the different translations for Anubis in Hieroglyphs

http://en.wikipedia.org/w/extensions.../hiero_G43.png
http://en.wikipedia.org/w/extensions.../hiero_M17.png

the second is the hieroglyphs from the hatch for the "incidents"

http://images2.wikia.nocookie.net/lo...eroglyphic.jpg

Explaination of Anubis and his role (not really a spoiler)
Spoiler:
Anubis was the god to protect the dead and bring them to the afterlife. He was usually portrayed as a half human, half jackel, or in full jackal form wearing a ribbon and holding a flail in the crook of its arm[5]. The jackal was strongly associated with cemeteries in ancient Egypt, since it was a scavenger which threatened to uncover human bodies and eat their flesh[6] The distinctive black color of Anubis "did not have to do with the jackal [per se] but with the color of rotting flesh and with the black soil of the Nile valley, symbolizing rebirth."[6]

Anubis is depicted in funerary contexts where he is shown attending to the mummies of the deceased or sitting atop a tomb protecting it. In fact, during embalming, the "head embalmer" wore an Anubis costume. The critical weighing of the heart scene in Book of the Dead also show Anubis performing the measurement that determined the worthiness of the deceased to enter the realm of the dead (the underworld). New Kingdom tomb-seals also depict Anubis atop nine bows that symbolize his domination over the foes of Egypt.[3]



and for the record, tha anubis had some daddy issues too...

Spoiler:
Anubis was the son of Osiris, the god of the underworld, and Nephthys, Set's sister and wife. Nephthys and Isis tricked Osiris one night. Nephthys never liked Seth(Set), but she always had a "thing" for Osiris.Since Nephthys and Isis were twins,they were able to trick Osiris into sleeping with Nephthys one night instead of Isis.As a result, Anubis was born.Nephthys was very angry since Set killed Osiris so she left him and assisted Isis, Osiris's wife and Nephthys ran away with her son, Anubis.

chuckd21 03-05-09 08:13 AM

Re: Lost -- "LaFleur" -- 3/4/09
 
According to the Lost Wiki, Horace dies during the purge which takes place on December 19th, 1992.

uteotw 03-05-09 08:13 AM

Re: Lost -- "LaFleur" -- 3/4/09
 
I'm just glad to know Michelle's alive and on the island. I hope Tony can somehow find out.

Holysmoker 03-05-09 08:16 AM

Re: Lost -- "LaFleur" -- 3/4/09
 

Originally Posted by B.A. (Post 9307077)
Maybe that explains Richard's eye-liner fetish.

My daughter asked me why he wore eyeliner when we watched The Dark Knight. I told her he didn't that was his natural look because I figured there was no way he would be allowed to wear it in every project he worked on. I guess I was wrong.

Groucho 03-05-09 08:24 AM

Re: Lost -- "LaFleur" -- 3/4/09
 

Originally Posted by uteotw (Post 9307130)
I'm just glad to know Michelle's alive and on the island. I hope Tony can somehow find out.

I think 1974 Tony would have a hard time maintaining that goatee.

dsa_shea 03-05-09 08:24 AM

Re: Lost -- "LaFleur" -- 3/4/09
 

Originally Posted by uteotw (Post 9307130)
I'm just glad to know Michelle's alive and on the island. I hope Tony can somehow find out.

But he might have to go in deep to get her out. He might even have to fake his own death to pull it off.

B.A. 03-05-09 08:25 AM

Re: Lost -- "LaFleur" -- 3/4/09
 

Originally Posted by Holysmoker (Post 9307133)
My daughter asked me why he wore eyeliner when we watched The Dark Knight. I told her he didn't that was his natural look because I figured there was no way he would be allowed to wear it in every project he worked on. I guess I was wrong.

I was being sarcastic.

He's always looked that way from what I can remember.

Holysmoker 03-05-09 08:26 AM

Re: Lost -- "LaFleur" -- 3/4/09
 
Nevermind. He doesn't.

http://www.bullz-eye.com/movies/inte..._carbonell.htm


BE: …and, oddly enough, when I changed my Facebook status to mention that I was going to be speaking with you, the first response was from a friend of mine, asking, “Oooooooh, ask him if he wears eyeliner!”

NC: (Bursts into laughter)

BE: So once more, for the record and just for me, do you wear eyeliner?

NC: Let me make this perfectly clear: I do not. I do not wear make-up, and I do not wear eye-liner. No. My brother sent me that article, and I just laughed so loud. I mean, this is something I’ve had to deal with my whole life. When I was a little kid, I was about five years old and living in Mexico, and I remember my mom’s friends would come over and say, ‘Oh, look at his eyelashes!’ I got such a complex about it that I ended up taking scissors to them once, and my mom stopped me and said, ‘What are you doing?’ But they were talking about them, and I got a lot comments about my eye-liner. Eventually, I got over it and was, like, “What are you gonna do?” But I definitely had a complex when I was a kid about having dark eyelashes. But then, later on, as I got older, I remember I was in college in Boston, I had a commercial agent, and they sent me out for some print commercial stuff. And they called me into the office and said, “Look, we called you in to talk to you because we just want you to know that…well, we don’t think you need to wear eyeliner.’ And I’m, like, “What?” “Yeah, it’s okay, you don’t have to wear it for print ads.” “No, I’m not wearing eyeliner!” And I kept dabbing my eyes and saying, “Look! No eyeliner! I’m not wearing any!” And, finally, they started laughing. So, yeah, it’s something I’ve dealt with it in the past, and sometimes, makeup artists are able to diminish it…and they’re doing it on “Lost” more and more…by putting a base on my eyelashes so it makes it less dark. But I didn’t know it would be a question at the TCA tour, that’s for sure!


superdeluxe 03-05-09 08:54 AM

Re: Lost -- "LaFleur" -- 3/4/09
 
So this is getting crazy. Locke is the leader of the others, and now Sawyer is de-facto leader of the Dharma group.

Heh. And a crazy love triangle now gets even better.

So we have the others, the 'good' guys, the dharma guys, and the new 'others'.

mdc3000 03-05-09 08:55 AM

Re: Lost -- "LaFleur" -- 3/4/09
 

Originally Posted by Son of Odin (Post 9307002)
it's 1977, right? sawyer told juliette it's 1974 when they first get the chance to ride the sub of of dodge, three years later and it's 77.

Exactly - a lot of talk in this thread about Jack and Kate being in 1974 when in fact that shit is happening in 1977. (a few people mentioned 1971-1974) Sawyer definitely said it was 1974 in the 3 years earlier part because when he asked Juliette why she'd want to leave the island to return to a world she didn't know in 1974, my immediate thought was "To see JAWS on the big screen when it's released next summer".

Seriously, for all the rabid attention to detail around here, I'm surprised you guys have your dates mixed up ;) (Just kidding about that, I had to explain the timeline to the people I was watching it with at least 3 times throughout)... and I totally think that Locke and Ben are on the OTHER island in what we call the present... so somehow they'll have to find a way to bring the other Losties BACK TO THE FUTURE.

Dr. Henry Jones, Jr. 03-05-09 09:01 AM

Re: Lost -- "LaFleur" -- 3/4/09
 
What happened after Hurley got out of the van? My DVR cut off.

DarkestPhoenix 03-05-09 09:11 AM

Re: Lost -- "LaFleur" -- 3/4/09
 

Originally Posted by Goldberg74 (Post 9307032)
First rule of Lost threads... we don't talk about the previews.

What?!? He spoilerized it AND announced he would be addressing a preview. He did just what he was supposed to, so if anyone reads it now, they're the moron. I prefer to talk about previews, because it is in reference to ALREADY TELEVISED video footage.

And everything may or may not be as it seems, so you're not really giving anything away. I saw the preview for this episode and I sure as hell didn't think it'd be this freakin' awesome.

Geofferson 03-05-09 09:13 AM

Re: Lost -- "LaFleur" -- 3/4/09
 
Great episode last night. Somehow I must have missed the statue shot -- will have to catch it again when it re-airs next week.

Geofferson 03-05-09 09:14 AM

Re: Lost -- "LaFleur" -- 3/4/09
 

Originally Posted by Lunatikk (Post 9307233)
What happened after Hurley got out of the van? My DVR cut off.

Jack and Kate get out of the van as well. Sawyer and Kate lock eyes and the episode ends.

Anubis2005X 03-05-09 09:15 AM

Re: Lost -- "LaFleur" -- 3/4/09
 

Originally Posted by Lunatikk (Post 9307233)
What happened after Hurley got out of the van? My DVR cut off.

Kate gets out and she and Sawyer stare at each other, then...LOST!

Pointyskull 03-05-09 09:16 AM

Re: Lost -- "LaFleur" -- 3/4/09
 

Originally Posted by Lunatikk (Post 9307233)
What happened after Hurley got out of the van? My DVR cut off.

Jack got out, gave Sawyer a look.
Then Kate got out. Sawyer and her gave each "a look", as is in he's not over her. Despite what he told Horace.

Dr. Henry Jones, Jr. 03-05-09 09:18 AM

Re: Lost -- "LaFleur" -- 3/4/09
 
thanks x3

majorjoe23 03-05-09 09:21 AM

Re: Lost -- "LaFleur" -- 3/4/09
 

Originally Posted by Lunatikk (Post 9307233)
What happened after Hurley got out of the van? My DVR cut off.

The other side of the van lowered significantly.

mdc3000 03-05-09 09:22 AM

Re: Lost -- "LaFleur" -- 3/4/09
 

Originally Posted by Geofferson (Post 9307256)
Great episode last night. Somehow I must have missed the statue shot -- will have to catch it again when it re-airs next week.

It was actually easy to miss because that whole scene was seamlessly integrated with the previously on...one minute we were seeing shit we'd already seen and then BAM, new stuff and STATUE. If I hadn't watched it live and was watching it on PVR, I'd probably have thought it was all recap while fast forwarding it.

mdc3000 03-05-09 09:23 AM

Re: Lost -- "LaFleur" -- 3/4/09
 

Originally Posted by majorjoe23 (Post 9307276)
The other side of the van lowered significantly.

Ha, good one..but wouldn't it be the exact opposite since it was after he got out. "That side of the van got significantly higher".

Anubis2005X 03-05-09 09:28 AM

Re: Lost -- "LaFleur" -- 3/4/09
 

Originally Posted by mdc3000 (Post 9307286)
Ha, good one..but wouldn't it be the exact opposite since it was after he got out. "That side of the van got significantly higher".

That's why he said "other" side. And I love Hurley, but that made me rotflrotflrotfl

Geofferson 03-05-09 09:30 AM

Re: Lost -- "LaFleur" -- 3/4/09
 

Originally Posted by mdc3000 (Post 9307281)
It was actually easy to miss because that whole scene was seamlessly integrated with the previously on...one minute we were seeing shit we'd already seen and then BAM, new stuff and STATUE. If I hadn't watched it live and was watching it on PVR, I'd probably have thought it was all recap while fast forwarding it.

Well that explains it -- I DVR'd it and did just that! Thanks.

RoyalTea 03-05-09 09:44 AM

Re: Lost -- "LaFleur" -- 3/4/09
 

Originally Posted by Geofferson (Post 9307256)
Great episode last night. Somehow I must have missed the statue shot -- will have to catch it again when it re-airs next week.

why don't you watch it on abc.com?

Palaver 03-05-09 09:47 AM

Re: Lost -- "LaFleur" -- 3/4/09
 

Originally Posted by DarkestPhoenix (Post 9307254)
What?!? He spoilerized it AND announced he would be addressing a preview. He did just what he was supposed to, so if anyone reads it now, they're the moron.

He didn't spoilerize anything. Goldberg spoilerized it in his quote. The original info is still out there.

I don't care personally, as I always watch the previews, myself, but some people don't like that.

invisiblegt 03-05-09 10:11 AM

Re: Lost -- "LaFleur" -- 3/4/09
 

Originally Posted by ivelostr2 (Post 9307119)
and for the record, tha anubis had some daddy issues too...

Spoiler:
Anubis was the son of Osiris, the god of the underworld, and Nephthys, Set's sister and wife. Nephthys and Isis tricked Osiris one night. Nephthys never liked Seth(Set), but she always had a "thing" for Osiris.Since Nephthys and Isis were twins,they were able to trick Osiris into sleeping with Nephthys one night instead of Isis.As a result, Anubis was born.Nephthys was very angry since Set killed Osiris so she left him and assisted Isis, Osiris's wife and Nephthys ran away with her son, Anubis.

Also, in regards to Horace (Horus):

[spoiler]Horus was the half-brother of Anubis (same father/different mother). I doubt this winds up playing any potential role, but, knowing Lost...)

Geofferson 03-05-09 10:22 AM

Re: Lost -- "LaFleur" -- 3/4/09
 

Originally Posted by RoyalTea (Post 9307329)
why don't you watch it on abc.com?

You got me there. Good point. ;)

DarkestPhoenix 03-05-09 11:01 AM

Re: Lost -- "LaFleur" -- 3/4/09
 
OOOOOOOOOOoooooooooooooh. I was looking at Goldberg's post.

Damn. Guess I'm the moron.

Apologies.

Thos19 03-05-09 11:33 AM

Re: Lost -- "LaFleur" -- 3/4/09
 
I don't know how I missed the friggin' statue, but can someone tell me whereabouts in the broadcast that it appeared? I still have the show on my TiVo.

Thanks,

Thos.

ivelostr2 03-05-09 11:34 AM

Re: Lost -- "LaFleur" -- 3/4/09
 

Originally Posted by Thos19 (Post 9307623)
I don't know how I missed the friggin' statue, but can someone tell me whereabouts in the broadcast that it appeared? I still have the show on my TiVo.

Thanks,

Thos.

within the first minute, right after sawyer is pulling the rope attached to the ground...

DaveNinja 03-05-09 12:21 PM

Re: Lost -- "LaFleur" -- 3/4/09
 
how close to egypt is the donkey-wheel exit point?

madcougar 03-05-09 12:23 PM

Re: Lost -- "LaFleur" -- 3/4/09
 

Originally Posted by Anubis2005X (Post 9307262)
Kate gets out and she and Sawyer stare at each other, then...LOST!

Then...LOST! :lol:

I guess that would be the best way to describe it!

aintnosin 03-05-09 12:25 PM

Re: Lost -- "LaFleur" -- 3/4/09
 

Originally Posted by DaveNinja (Post 9307771)
how close to egypt is the donkey-wheel exit point?

It's on the other side of Libya. In ancient times, it probably would have been well within reach of the Egyptian empire by sea.


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