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DthRdrX 03-04-09 09:29 PM

Re: Lost -- "LaFleur" -- 3/4/09
 

Originally Posted by goofee girl (Post 9306559)
This looks to be one of my all time favorite episodes!

How was the baby born and not kill the mother?

Is child Ben part of the DI yet?

I hope Locke isn't in the present. That would make me sad not seeing much of him.

Apparently something happened that prevented women from giving birth on the island, or, she was pregnant before arriving on the island like Claire. It's probably something to do with Ben given how obsessed he was with the problem. Just a guess though.

Ben came to the island 'sometime' during the 70s. I can only image what Sawyer would like to do with him.

Son of Odin 03-04-09 09:31 PM

Re: Lost -- "LaFleur" -- 3/4/09
 

Originally Posted by The Bus (Post 9306551)
We don't know when that is. At that point they are building something. We don't know if that was in 1974, in the 60s, etc.

it's obvious that was the job daniel took when sawyer and miles took security detail. so yes, it was from 71 to 74 that dan was seen in the orchid in the season premiere. he wasn't with the rest of the gang because he's trying to figure out the orchid.

Goldberg74 03-04-09 09:31 PM

Re: Lost -- "LaFleur" -- 3/4/09
 
Wonderful ep.

Glad Sawyer finally got a pair of glasses that fit right. ;)

Ephemeral_Life 03-04-09 09:31 PM

Re: Lost -- "LaFleur" -- 3/4/09
 

Originally Posted by DthRdrX (Post 9306570)
Apparently something happened that prevented women from giving birth on the island, or, she was pregnant before arriving on the island like Claire.

Maybe it's related to the "incident".

Anubis2005X 03-04-09 09:34 PM

Re: Lost -- "LaFleur" -- 3/4/09
 

Originally Posted by TLwizard (Post 9306522)
So that statue looks
Spoiler:
like Anubis? Egyptian god of afterlife.


Anyone else?

I was totally going to post that, agreed!

DthRdrX 03-04-09 09:36 PM

Re: Lost -- "LaFleur" -- 3/4/09
 

Originally Posted by Son of Odin (Post 9306574)
it's obvious that was the job daniel took when sawyer and miles took security detail. so yes, it was from 71 to 74 that dan was seen in the orchid in the season premiere. he wasn't with the rest of the gang because he's trying to figure out the orchid.

Very possible.

I think the statue is going to wind up being a cast member, or maybe even Jacob. Odd that they would tease it from behind like that. That's a season six answer though I'll bet.

GenPion 03-04-09 09:47 PM

Re: Lost -- "LaFleur" -- 3/4/09
 

Originally Posted by Goldberg74 (Post 9306576)
Wonderful ep.

Glad Sawyer finally got a pair of glasses that fit right. ;)

Agreed.

Josh Holloway was awesome as Sawyer in this episode. It was his best character moment in almost two years IMHO.

GenPion 03-04-09 09:48 PM

Re: Lost -- "LaFleur" -- 3/4/09
 

Originally Posted by Ephemeral_Life (Post 9306577)
Maybe it's related to the "incident".

Maybe.

And maybe, perhaps, we are actually on the road to receiving a LOT of series answers to our long standing mysteries! At least I hope so! :)

Jimmy James 03-04-09 09:56 PM

Re: Lost -- "LaFleur" -- 3/4/09
 

Originally Posted by Ephemeral_Life (Post 9306577)
Maybe it's related to the "incident".

That would be my guess.

PopcornTreeCt 03-04-09 10:08 PM

Re: Lost -- "LaFleur" -- 3/4/09
 
Wait, how do we know Ben and Locke and the other survivors are in 2008. When was this confirmed?

Palaver 03-04-09 10:13 PM

Re: Lost -- "LaFleur" -- 3/4/09
 

Originally Posted by PopcornTreeCt (Post 9306660)
Wait, how do we know Ben and Locke and the other survivors are in 2008. When was this confirmed?

All we know for sure is that they seem to have landed after Dharma abandoned the Hydra.

Goldberg74 03-04-09 10:15 PM

Re: Lost -- "LaFleur" -- 3/4/09
 
Doc Jensen has alot of theories over at EW.com... check out the last two paragraphs on page 4...

http://www.ew.com/ew/article/0,,1550...262780,00.html

IDrinkMolson 03-04-09 10:16 PM

Re: Lost -- "LaFleur" -- 3/4/09
 
I could have sworn I saw Sayid on the beach last episode, just before Locke lowered his hood and told them his name.

It's probable that Goodspeed knocked her up on the island, since her husband was killed on the island first, then she ended up with Goodspeed. Unless they took the sub out and got it on.

I was glad to see Juliet and Sawyer together. Hopefully he doesn't blow it now that Kate is back. I guess she learned to cook, last time we saw her cooking she burned something in the oven before the book club and then burnt her hand.

Timber 03-04-09 10:16 PM

Re: Lost -- "LaFleur" -- 3/4/09
 

Originally Posted by PopcornTreeCt (Post 9306660)
Wait, how do we know Ben and Locke and the other survivors are in 2008. When was this confirmed?



It's confirmed that Locke is there after "the purge" because the Darma station was vacant. I think we're to assume they're in 2008.

Rizor 03-04-09 10:16 PM

Re: Lost -- "LaFleur" -- 3/4/09
 
Whatever happened to....
http://lostpedia.wikia.com/wiki/Olivia ?

Palaver 03-04-09 10:18 PM

Re: Lost -- "LaFleur" -- 3/4/09
 
Good shot of the statue
http://img7.imageshack.us/img7/701/statue.jpg

dsa_shea 03-04-09 10:19 PM

Re: Lost -- "LaFleur" -- 3/4/09
 

Originally Posted by Rizor (Post 9306686)
Whatever happened to....
http://lostpedia.wikia.com/wiki/Olivia ?

Good point! Is there a rift in the storyline? Did they just forget about her? Is Dharma actually a camp of polygamists?

Shinobi 03-04-09 10:22 PM

Re: Lost -- "LaFleur" -- 3/4/09
 

Originally Posted by Palaver (Post 9306670)
All we know for sure is that they seem to have landed after Dharma abandoned the Hydra.

Yes. And tonight's pop-up video show of last week's episode specifically said that Ceasar was in Ben's old office in the Hydra station. So that timeline isn't in the 1970's.

Timber 03-04-09 10:23 PM

Re: Lost -- "LaFleur" -- 3/4/09
 
Speaking of the statue. Since when is the Orchid so close to the water?

TheNightFlier 03-04-09 10:25 PM

Re: Lost -- "LaFleur" -- 3/4/09
 

Originally Posted by Rizor (Post 9306686)
Whatever happened to....
http://lostpedia.wikia.com/wiki/Olivia ?

Wow, good call. I had thought Horace was married.

And I'd love to know what the statue is carrying.

Ranger 03-04-09 10:27 PM

Re: Lost -- "LaFleur" -- 3/4/09
 

Originally Posted by IDrinkMolson (Post 9306680)
I was glad to see Juliet and Sawyer together.

Yeah, that was cool. Good to see Reiko.

dsa_shea 03-04-09 10:29 PM

Re: Lost -- "LaFleur" -- 3/4/09
 

Originally Posted by TheNightFlier (Post 9306706)
Wow, good call. I had thought Horace was married.

And I'd love to know what the statue is carrying.

It looks like it might be the same symbol of the necklace that was being kept by Horace's wife's from her dead husband. They showed it rather prominently in that scene.

TheNightFlier 03-04-09 10:38 PM

Re: Lost -- "LaFleur" -- 3/4/09
 

Originally Posted by dsa_shea (Post 9306715)
It looks like it might be the same symbol of the necklace that was being kept by Horace's wife's from her dead husband. They showed it rather prominently in that scene.

That's what I was assuming till I saw pics of Anubis carrying a flail as well.

My friend came up with an interesting theory that it could also be Horus. He follows all the crazy lost easter eggs and remembered that the symbol for Horus was on the outside of the temple where smokey came from. Egyptian mythology would be an interesting road to go down.

Another person watching with us suggested that Richard with the eyeliner reminded her of how they portrayed Egyptian men in movies. A little out there but that's the fun part about coming up with theories about Lost.

zuffy 03-04-09 10:40 PM

Re: Lost -- "LaFleur" -- 3/4/09
 
Best Sawyer episode so far. I really hope the writers don't get into this triangle love crap between Kate, Jack, Sawyer and Juliet anymore. I mean Sawyer spent 3 years with Juliet in the island and Jack and Kate was sort of together for 3 years off the island. That should be enough time for them to move on.

CKMorpheus 03-04-09 10:49 PM

Re: Lost -- "LaFleur" -- 3/4/09
 
Anubis:
http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedi...s_standing.svg

vs.

Horus:
http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedi...s_standing.svg

They're both holding the ankh, but the head (judging from the pointy ears on the statue) seems to suggest Anubis.

CKMorpheus 03-04-09 10:57 PM

Re: Lost -- "LaFleur" -- 3/4/09
 
Found this on another forum...


The four toed foot - it's been baffling me for ages. That was until this morning when I dug a little deeper using some of the great theories already here.

I'm strongly leaning toward the fact that the statue is very old, likely from ancient Egyptian times - specifically Tutankhamun (I'll get to why King Tut specifically shortly), and that it's part of a statue of Anubis - for a number of reasons:

1. it's widely discussed that the "smoke monster" has of late perhaps shown signs of being "dog-like" - with ears, snout, teeth - Anubis is typically known as a figure with a human body and the head of a dog (others also believe it could be a jackal, fox, or wolf)

2. Anubis was the Egyptian god that cared for the bodies of the dead - and we can assume that the dead are buried underground, hence the smoke monster appearing from underground, and subsequently scuttling back underground - usually dragging a LOST character with it

3. Inside King Tutankhamun's tomb they found its very own Anubis statue guarding the "treasure room" - with 5 toes on its forefeet, and 4 toes on its hindfeet

4. Anubis was the god of the Underworld - weren't the Swan hatch hieroglyphs translated into the word "Underworld"?

5. The many references to Cerberus - Cerberus is thought to be linked to Anubis and is the 3 headed dog guardian of Hades

6. Charlotte said that "this place is death" - perhaps another reference to an "Underworld"

I'm convinced the four toed statue is of Anubis for these very reasons.

Thoughts?

dom56 03-05-09 12:11 AM

Re: Lost -- "LaFleur" -- 3/4/09
 
Why did Richard wanted Paul's body for after losing two of his men?

I thought Kate look a little older without the makeup at the end.

dex14 03-05-09 12:21 AM

Re: Lost -- "LaFleur" -- 3/4/09
 
Ive been away from the computer for awhile. Yea I have friends who call me "Dodgeball" because of Peter LaFleur. I was glad to see Sawyer used it as his name. Good episode. I was happy to see Reiko in something.

Gizmo 03-05-09 12:26 AM

Re: Lost -- "LaFleur" -- 3/4/09
 

Originally Posted by dom56 (Post 9306865)
Why did Richard wanted Paul's body for after losing two of his men?

I thought Kate look a little older without the makeup at the end.



To bring back to his people. Eye for an eye.

FatTony 03-05-09 12:35 AM

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Great episode. Loved the teaser shot of that damn statue. :lol:

So much has happened this season, I'm having a bit of trouble keeping up with all of it. Need to re-watch "Jughead" again.


Originally Posted by dom56 (Post 9306865)
I thought Kate look a little older without the makeup at the end.

That shot of her at the end was definitely not flattering.

madcougar 03-05-09 12:40 AM

Re: Lost -- "LaFleur" -- 3/4/09
 

Originally Posted by dom56 (Post 9306865)
I thought Kate look a little older without the makeup at the end.

Well it has been three years... ;)

ivelostr2 03-05-09 01:06 AM

Re: Lost -- "LaFleur" -- 3/4/09
 
the first links are to the different translations for Anubis in Hieroglyphs

http://en.wikipedia.org/w/extensions.../hiero_G43.png
http://en.wikipedia.org/w/extensions.../hiero_M17.png

the second is the hieroglyphs from the hatch for the "incidents"

http://images2.wikia.nocookie.net/lo...eroglyphic.jpg

JZ1276 03-05-09 01:11 AM

Re: Lost -- "LaFleur" -- 3/4/09
 
When we saw Richard in a previous season's episode when they show Ben's backstory, Richard comes from the jungle with long hair and in dirty clothes. This had to have happened before seeing Richard in tonight's episode where he looks like his dapper usual self. What sense could that make?

kenny79 03-05-09 01:20 AM

Re: Lost -- "LaFleur" -- 3/4/09
 
Ben said Charlotte was born in 1979. How could she have been a kid in the early '70s?

Arthur Dent 03-05-09 01:32 AM

Re: Lost -- "LaFleur" -- 3/4/09
 

Originally Posted by kenny79 (Post 9306911)
Ben said Charlotte was born in 1979. How could she have been a kid in the early '70s?

Ben would have to be wrong for that to be the case.

GenPion 03-05-09 03:02 AM

Re: Lost -- "LaFleur" -- 3/4/09
 

Originally Posted by JZ1276 (Post 9306905)
When we saw Richard in a previous season's episode when they show Ben's backstory, Richard comes from the jungle with long hair and in dirty clothes. This had to have happened before seeing Richard in tonight's episode where he looks like his dapper usual self. What sense could that make?

I think this still hasn't happened yet. I'm not convinced the Ben has arrived on the island yet. But we'll see. This definitely went through my mind tonight. I bet we'll find out in the next couple of weeks. At least, I REALLY hope so.

Son of Odin 03-05-09 05:40 AM

Re: Lost -- "LaFleur" -- 3/4/09
 
if anyone caught the preview for the next episode there's a scene where a person inside one of the dharma houses is closing the door. it looks like christian. you only see a glimpse of the person closing it but it certainly looks like him. since the purge happens in the middle to late 80's, i'm guessing ben and his father should be arriving on the island any day now since it's 1977, right? sawyer told juliette it's 1974 when they first get the chance to ride the sub of of dodge, three years later and it's 77. considering ben is in his early 20's when the purge happens, he should be arriving at what age, 12?

kaze0 03-05-09 06:20 AM

Re: Lost -- "LaFleur" -- 3/4/09
 

Originally Posted by kenny79 (Post 9306911)
Ben said Charlotte was born in 1979. How could she have been a kid in the early '70s?

Ben lies about everything. He seems to be completely incapable of telling the truth. Even when Jack asked him about "how he could read." Ben's sarcastic reply "my mother taught me" was even a lie since she died when she gave birth.

Goldberg74 03-05-09 06:48 AM

Re: Lost -- "LaFleur" -- 3/4/09
 

Originally Posted by Son of Odin (Post 9307002)
if anyone caught the preview for the next episode
Spoiler:
there's a scene where a person inside one of the dharma houses is closing the door. it looks like christian. you only see a glimpse of the person closing it but it certainly looks like him.
since the purge happens in the middle to late 80's, i'm guessing ben and his father should be arriving on the island any day now since it's 1977, right? sawyer told juliette it's 1974 when they first get the chance to ride the sub of of dodge, three years later and it's 77. considering ben is in his early 20's when the purge happens, he should be arriving at what age, 12?

First rule of Lost threads... we don't talk about the previews.

Pointyskull 03-05-09 07:06 AM

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Easily one of the best Lost eps...

That shot of the statue was just a terrific "wow" moment.


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