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If it's extortion, it's extortion Netflix has already caved to for Comcast. I'd really love to read a good write-up on the issues involved. The concepts of net neutrality (which was apparently recently struck down) vs a provider's right to manage the performance of their network. Netflix IS a ridiculously huge drain on the country's bandwidth. Yet, the ISP's seems to think people should pay $50/month (or more) to read e-mail -- with 50mbps connections.

I've never had the best luck with streaming. It's definitely not a way I prefer to watch any content. I simply don't have time for "buffering". And I get that even when the transfer rate is way below my max. Just the other day, when trying to stream something from HBO's site, I got seemingly 2 second of content followed by 3 seconds of buffering. I just stopped watching.

I stopped watching the Clone Wars in S1. However, I've read the final arc will be very Yoda-centric. I'm interested in taking a look. But even though I'm interested, I'm far more likely to just wait for the DVD's to come out. I'm in no mood to have 2 characters about to clash light sabers and then... "buffering..."

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I have timewarner and have had zero problems. Even while streaming at work, zero problems. Come to think about it never had a problem with netflix.

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Sweet.

Looking forward to watching the series w/ the kids.

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Anyone have a list of the eps. that can be omitted? I have heard that while some are good, there are some filler eps. that serve no purpose.

I have to say, this has a lot more humor than the movies.

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At least the show is getting a proper send off.

I watched the first 3 episodes tonight on the PS3. The presentation and format were exceptional! Much better than it ever was on Cartoon Network.

Liked the small reference in the first episode to the movie Aliens with the automatic sentry guns and the clone troopers sealing themselves in the control room!

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I watched the first episode of season 1 last night to check it out on Netflix. I can't really tell much difference between the stream and my bluray copy. It looks and sounds great.

I have a couple friends coming over tomorrow and we are going to binge watch the entire new season.

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They were up at 12:00 am PST on the dot just like all their other new releases.

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God forbid you have to actually search for anything... must be extremely hard for you.

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I haven't streamed Netflix in a few months and I have to say that the first episode looks like complete shit. I'm on Fios and I had no idea they made the service this bad.

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Did you check out the original content? House Of Cards, Orange Is The New Black, Lillyhammer are quality shows. Also you should look into turning Netflix region free. There's a ton of content only available in other Countries.

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FiOS has been purposely slowing Netflix down until they pay the piper.

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Just finished up watching the whole 6th season. Simply outstanding. Not a bad episode in the bunch. Really leads into Episode 3 now. No problems with Netflix streaming (I'm on TWC)... full HD and 5.1.

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Just watched through season 6 yesterday. Liked them all except for the Jar Jar two-parter. Aliens with Indian accents now? Ugh.

Pretty dark season. I was also very surprised they actually got .

Only other thing that was kind of weird was having a few episodes of Ian Abercrombie voicing Palp/Sidious again, but then back to Curry later in the season. I have to assume those episodes with Abercrombie were already done before he stopped doing the show.

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The Jar Jar/Mace two parter was horrible.

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This is a joke, right? Jar Jar gets a two-parter with Mace Windu?-screwy-

It is essential to read an episode guide before watching this series. Someone really needs to setup a website that cuts out the many bad and meaningless episodes.

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I don't get the force ghost stuff. before any of the prequel shit came out, I just assumed all Jedi's would live on as a force ghost if they weren't on the Dark Side. now, with the prequels, none of them could do it, until Yoda goes ahead and does it... by fighting his inner demons, or whatever. Fine, he went through some tough trials, and now earned the right to be a force ghost. So, then, how are Obi Wan and Annakin Skywalker able to do it in the OT? and why was Qui Gon able to reach out as just a voice?

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These answer to all those questions is simple: it was the will of the midichlorians. Or put another way, a wizard did it.

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Qui Gon was more in tune with the "living force" then the other Jedi so he maintained conciousness after death. He wasn't trained to do so it just happened. Yoda trained and as we heard in RoTS he trained Obi in the time before ANH. Annakin makes no sense no matter how you slice it.

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So there's a separate thread for Season 7, but I think my question may better fit here.

After watching The Mandalorian season 2, decided to finally watch Clone Wars while I have Disney+ . Except, I've heard that it starts off really rough, so I want to skip the bad episodes, at least at the beginning, unless they're otherwise essential to the show. I don't have a problem with "filler" episodes, since I'm not in a rush to finish the show, as long as they're still good episodes.

Also, I don't care about watching it in the chronological order Lucasfilm later set out.

So, I've done some research. First, there's lists of "essential" episodes, with maybe this list being the most prominent (image spoilered for size)
https://originaltrilogy.com/topic/Th...Guide/id/77657


Then, there's some guides showing IMDB user ratings:


Based on that, I've decided on the following viewing guide for season 1 (episodes being watched in bold):
Ambush
Rising Malevolence
Shadow of Malevolence
Destroy Malevolence
Rookies
Downfall of a Droid
Duel of the Droids
Bombad Jedi
Cloak of Darkness
Lair of Grievous
Dooku Captured
The Gungan General
Jedi Crash
Defenders of Peace
Trespass
The Hidden Enemy
Blue Shadow Virus
Mystery of a Thousand Moors
Storm of Ryloth
Innocents of Ryloth
Liberty on Ryloth
Hostage Crisis

I think from season 2 on I'll just watch it straight through, since the overall IMDB ratings seem better, with only the occasional dud.

Also, some other watchlists, this one up through Season 5:
https://watchlist.neocities.org/

And this one through Season 6:
https://www.georgeshawmusic.com/post...-episode-guide

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It's been ages since I've watched Clone Wars, though watching select season one episodes and going through season two on would probably be a good plan. There's some really good stuff in there (like Ahsoka Tano's storyline in season five), but a fair amount of cheese, too.

It does sort of improve the Prequels by giving them some context, but I find it feels like of awkward to shoe-horn an apprentice for Anakin in between Eps II and III. She is essentially the main protagonist in the Clone Wars series, and it's strange that she isn't even hinted at Revenge of the Sith -- granted, it's because nobody thought of her until well after the film came out, but still...

Also, if you're watching it to get background on The Mandalorian, you should probably also watch some Rebels episodes, too, if you haven't already, as Ahsoka Tano, Bo Katan, the Darksaber, and Grand Admiral Thrawn are featured there.

(I always found the Mandalore stories on Clone Wars and Rebels to be kind of dull, though. A lot of infighting families and sitting around discussing politics, from what I recall.)

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My girlfriend and I went in chronological order. Messed up a couple times and it didn’t matter a ton. We watched the movie first when there are supposed to be a couple episodes (I believe) before it.

I think aspects of the show do flow better when viewed chronologically. Really mainly the first few seasons are out of order. Seems like it isn’t as much from season four onwards.

Great show though. I will agree that the first season or so is rocky. A big issue is the animation is really kind of jarring and weird to get used to. My girlfriend and I are close to the end season five already and I’m sad that we’re almost done with it.

I feel like I have a much greater appreciation for the prequels now, and honestly the show adds a ton of much needed backstory to various characters and really fleshes out the story.

To me it is a bit stupid that since Disney acknowledges the chronological order of the show they don’t have an option to watch it that way on Disney+. Doesn’t seem like it would take much for them to organize them that way for people who prefer that order. Instead you have to go through the seasons and pick out the right episodes. I wound up printing the list from the Star Wars website and have been using it for reference.

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I'm planning to go through all of Clone Wars, and then watch Rebels. Are there episodes to skip in Rebels too?

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The main thing I remember about Rebels (I watched it live on the Disney channel and don't have it on disc) is that the important stuff seemed to happen in the season openers, the midseason cliffhangers, and the season finales. The first season was kind of iffy, the second season was better, the third season was pretty good, and the fourth season was the strongest. It also seemed to get more arc intensive as it went along.

Pulled this list off of Reddit, and it's probably not a bad guide for the best episodes...


https://cimg6.ibsrv.net/gimg/dvdtalk...56761d91e2.png

I wouldn't be surprised at all to see a few characters from Rebels show up in either The Mandalorian or one of the D+ series coming up set in the post-ROTJ era. Also wouldn't be surprised if one in particular was in the Rogue Squadron film.

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"The Call" is a must watch? A full episode about Space Whales is where I tapped out on the series.

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Maybe I'll try selectively watching. I tried watching season one of The Clone Wars and most of it was such a boring slog that I gave up. So does Rebels take place after The Clone Wars show, or during it or something? (I've never seen that show)

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After. And 5 years before ANH.

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I get that it’s easy to do, but judging the show based off its first season really isn’t a good way to measure it’s quality. It gets significantly better as it goes on. I think towards the end of season one is where I had a good feel for it, and then pretty much from season two onwards I’ve loved it.

I also feel like selectively watching won’t be the most beneficial. There are on-going story and character arcs that build throughout the show.

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In general, it can vary, but if you're not liking a show in its first season, unless there's people online saying it gets better, it just may not be a show for you.

For the old TV model, shows often got running at all gears likely in their 2nd or 3rd season, after they figured stuff out. Other times they might be spinning their wheels a bit in later seasons. I skipped episodes for Seasons 1 & 2 of Star Trek The Next Generation on a rewatch, but on the other hand LOST season 1 is pretty much the strongest season that show ever had, and season 2 and 3 definitely had some filler, wheel spinning going on.

For modern serialized binge shows, sometimes the best season is the first season. Orphan Black, Stranger Things, The Mandalorian, etc. Not to say that later seasons were terrible, but if you're not enjoying the first seasons of those shows, there's no reason to think you'll enjoy later ones.

I skipped out on The Clone Wars when it first came out because the movie was terrible, according to reviews, and the initial episodes weren't getting that favorable reviews either. I'm only going back to it now because I've now heard it gets better, it's all out and done so I can watch the whole thing, and I've seen Dave Filoni's work on The Mandalorian and want to see his previous Star Wars contributions.

It can be a question of "how much time do I want to invest in this show I'm not currently enjoying?" If you're watching as it's airing, there's no reason to stick it out to see if it gets better. You can always return after the fact. And if it's a show that starts out a bit rubbish but gets better, maybe there's a way to skip the rubbish while still experience the best the show has to offer, and follow the overall arc.

Mike86, I posted my Clone Wars viewing list for season 1. Are they any episodes that I'm skipping that you think will harm my ability to enjoy the on-going story and character arcs that build throughout the show?

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I would say going off your list you probably have the most essential episodes selected from what I remember. It’s been a bit since I watched season one. Just I feel like you get a good feel for the characters and their relationships. Especially going through the show in order. Seems like it must have been a case where the network jumbled up the order when they aired them.

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The network didn't jumble the order; that's the way they produced the episodes.

From a 2008 interview:
https://theforce.net/jedicouncil/int...davefiloni.asp

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Hmm, interesting I’ve never read that. I just kind of figured because that’s something that happens occasionally with shows. That’s kind of odd then, because there are definitely episodes that line up with each other that have large gaps between. I prefer the chronological order just because it seems to make sense to watch the show that way.

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They might have it listed as a "must watch" because the space whales play a significant role in a later episode.

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I stuck with both shows far longer than I'd like to admit. But both work better if you only watch the highly-rated episodes. There are many filler episodes in both not worth a single watch unless you are a Star Wars obsessive.

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Either I’m an obsessive fan or I have a different idea on filler episodes. There are some that are filler, and definitely some clunkers, but by and large there are a lot more good episodes than bad.

Truthfully some of my favorite episodes are the ones that are more side stories not focused on the main characters.

For instance there’s an arc with some younglings on their quest to gather their crystals to build their lightsabers. It’s a few episodes and I found it to be a really enjoyable set of episodes with some surprisingly likable kid characters.

There are also a lot of episodes dedicated to the Clones, which makes you realize that they’re more than just mindless drones. They actually have personalities and are interesting characters.

You also get quite a few episodes that are from the perspective of the antagonists, which can be interesting. A characters like Asajj Ventress for instance winds up really interesting. Maul comes back and is awesome. You get a lot more of characters who were underrepresented in the films like Dooku and Grievous.

There’s a lot to soak up and a lot of good lore building in the show. Maybe it is the fanboy in me, but I’ve enjoyed way more than I haven’t. :shrug:

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Yeah, to reiterate, my particular goal isn't to avoid "filler," just bad episodes, and really just the bad episodes at the beginning before I get into the show. The only exception was if there's a episode that's bad but "essential," then I may watch that one anyway.

Having watched shows like ST:TNG, which is like 90% standalone "filler" episodes, I'm fine with watching stories that aren't essential to the overall arc. Also, being a Doctor Who fan and having just watched and enjoyed the Lego Star Wars Holiday Special, I don't necessarily mind the more silly aspects of a show, so, say, "space whales" aren't going to necessarily bother me.

I'm mostly through my first season list, I just have the last 4 episodes to watch. I will say that the Malevolence arc, which were the first episodes I watched, weren't "bad," but they weren't particularly compelling either. They felt a little padded out, especially the second episode, and I think may have worked better if they had been a single story trimmed down in bits. The show started out a bit more violent and darker than I expected, what with watching clones getting cut out of escape pods, ejected into space and suffocating, right in the first episode. It also didn't help that the people in jeopardy, the Jedi and the clones, were characters unfamiliar with me. If Obi-Wan had been stuck in the pod, it might've heightened the tension. For the second episode, there was a lot of people standing around and going "are we/they there yet?" The third episode was a lot better balanced in pacing and tension.

"Rookies", "The Hidden Enemy" and "Trespass" all seem, at this point at least, standalone episodes. I think Trespass works best as a standalone. I appreciated Rookies and The Hidden Enemy for illustrating how the clones each have their own personalities and lives, but their storylines were sort of bog standard war stories. A "spy among us" story tends to work best when you actually know/care about the people being accused of being a spy, and I think all the accused clones were new to this particular tale.

Cloak of Darkness and Lair of Grievous was presented as an "arc" in the episode guide I used, but they're really only tangentially related. I did enjoy them for fleshing out some of the villains though.

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Trespass is one of my favorite episodes in season one and a strong episode of the show in general if you ask me.

I don’t think the first season is even that bad necessarily. It just may take time to get used to, and in my opinion the animation is a bit off. My girlfriend described the animation at first as looking like a cutscene from a video game, which I sort of agree with.

It’s a show that you can tell just takes a bit to find it’s groove. Anakin is made into a way more interesting character ultimately. Ahsoka is one of my favorite characters in Star Wars now. Plus you get more from some of the underdeveloped Jedi Council members as well as Sith characters.

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All you need to know about space whales is that

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This show is so good. In the sixth season now and everything is falling into place for what ultimately happens in Revenge of the Sith.

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Yeah, I think one of the strengths of the show is that when watching the earlier seasons it's easy sometimes not to think about where the story ultimately has to end up. Then you get toward the end and you know what's coming but it's still interesting to see the tragedy play out from a different point of view.