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Old 08-19-08 | 06:05 AM
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why is race walking a sport in the Olympics? they want to get rid of baseball and softball and they have this stupid event?

shit, it's more legit than "sports" like "Curling". Do they still feature "Curling" in the Winter events?
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Enough said.
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Enough said.
Both married.

I think we need to revamp the Olympics. Ban: Badminton, Ping-Pong, Walking, anything synchronized, Trampoline, and Horse Dancing (did you guys see that? I couldn't make it up)

Add: Ninja Warrior competition, World's Strongest Man competition (including the truck pull), and The Eliminator circa 1992.
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Originally Posted by matta
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I think we need to revamp the Olympics. Ban: Badminton, Ping-Pong, Walking, anything synchronized, Trampoline, and Horse Dancing (did you guys see that? I couldn't make it up)

Add: Ninja Warrior competition, World's Strongest Man competition (including the truck pull), and The Eliminator circa 1992.

Personally I'd add surfing. But it'll probably forever be considered too dangerous for this kind of competition.
Old 08-19-08 | 08:22 AM
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Wasn't racewalking born out of frustration by kids that were told by their parents not to run around the pool?

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Originally Posted by wishbon3
Wasn't racewalking born out of frustration by kids that were told by their parents not to run around the pool?


I can so picture that!
Old 08-19-08 | 05:35 PM
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Originally Posted by matta
Ban: Badminton, Ping-Pong, Walking, anything synchronized, Trampoline, and Horse Dancing (did you guys see that? I couldn't make it up)

Horse Dancing sounds like dressage which goes back a long time.

Badminton has a right to be in the Olympics as much as beach volleyball. After a point, they play music and cut it 2 seconds later before the serve. Why even play it? Weird.
Old 08-19-08 | 05:44 PM
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Horse Dancing sounds like dressage which goes back a long time.
Call it whatever you want. How is that a sport? I mean, if you won 10 gold medals in horse dancing, are people going to talk about how great you are?

Originally Posted by big whoppa
Badminton has a right to be in the Olympics as much as beach volleyball. After a point, they play music and cut it 2 seconds later before the serve. Why even play it? Weird.
Beach Volleyball takes skill. Have you ever tried to play it? That shit is hard.

Badminton just takes the will to play badminton. That "sport" takes as much skill as ping pong, which takes half as much skill as darts, which ranks slightly below curling, which is really just shuffleboard on ice.

What's next? A beer pong competition? Poker?
Old 08-19-08 | 05:48 PM
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And I'm all for an overall agility and strength competition like Ninja Warrior. How many Olympic athletes do you think could get over the warped wall?
Old 08-19-08 | 05:59 PM
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Originally Posted by matta
Call it whatever you want. How is that a sport? I mean, if you won 10 gold medals in horse dancing, are people going to talk about how great you are?



Beach Volleyball takes skill. Have you ever tried to play it? That shit is hard.

Badminton just takes the will to play badminton. That "sport" takes as much skill as ping pong, which takes half as much skill as darts, which ranks slightly below curling, which is really just shuffleboard on ice.

What's next? A beer pong competition? Poker?
They all take skill at that level of competition. Any (drunk) fool on the beach can play beach volleyball. It's the level these people take it that is different. You wouldn't stand a chance with those people who play badminton or ping pong competitively yet it's simple enough that anyone can learn. Easy to learn, hard to master kind of thing.
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You wouldn't stand a chance with those people who play badminton or ping pong competitively yet it's simple enough that anyone can learn. Easy to learn, hard to master kind of thing.
Actually, I probably could qualify for the Olympics in ping pong if I wanted to. We had a table in my fraternity house and I got pretty good.
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You wouldn't score a point, and in badminton you wouldn't even see the shuttlecock (haha I said cock) until it landed on your side of the court.
Come on, it's ping pong. It takes like no skill, which is why drunks can play it. I'd kick some serious ass.

America isn't good at ping pong because it's beneath us. We're the cool kid at school and ping pong is the glee club.
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Maybe we should concentrate more on the lesser sports. Then we could close the gold medal gap between China and the US.
But that's how they do it. In China, they take children at an extraordinarily young age and force them to live and breath some less competitive sport in order to increase their medal count.

I have a friend from China who tells me about how she feared being good at sports as a kid because it meant she would be literally taken away from her family and brought up in a government run academy. The problem is that those academies make you a machine and you learn nothing but your sport. So when you're too old to compete or if you're just not good enough, you're thrown out with the bath water and forced to fend for yourself with no skills, no education, and no assistance.
Old 08-19-08 | 07:45 PM
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Originally Posted by matta
But that's how they do it. In China, they take children at an extraordinarily young age and force them to live and breath some less competitive sport in order to increase their medal count.

I have a friend from China who tells me about how she feared being good at sports as a kid because it meant she would be literally taken away from her family and brought up in a government run academy. The problem is that those academies make you a machine and you learn nothing but your sport. So when you're too old to compete or if you're just not good enough, you're thrown out with the bath water and forced to fend for yourself with no skills, no education, and no assistance.
It's a totally different society. You can't compare the US and China. For the Chinese, it's about improving your way-of-life in a country where many don't make much. They make huge sacrifices and more power to them when it pays off.

Seems there is always criticism any time a country can compete with the US. Years back, it was the Russians and the Soviet Union. Now, that China is racking all the gold and running neck in neck with US in total medal count, there is some backlash against China. Their accomplishments are completely deserved no matter what people say.

As for the comment from Rockmjd, the Chinese are competing in gymnastics and diving where they've won many gold. What's non-competitive about that? I can make a case that the US have the most athletes in the Olympics and can afford to get some of the best coaches who happen to be Chinese (women's volleyball, women's gymnastics, women's diving).

Matta, you know you couldn't compete with the lowest ranked player in ping pong. Who are we kidding here? And if ping pong is so uncool as you say, what was it doing in your fraternity house and why were you supposedly good at it?

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Old 08-19-08 | 08:02 PM
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Shouldn't China have a shortage of talented female athletes, given their culture?

It would be ironic if one of those unwanted Chinese girl babies that is adopted to an American family ended up being a gold medalist for USA.
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That's possible but she would be American with more importantly different influences and discipline.
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China backlash? Really? From where? Other the the rather legit concerns about the ages of the Chinese gymnasts I haven't heard any backlash.

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Old 08-20-08 | 10:50 AM
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It's a totally different society. You can't compare the US and China. For the Chinese, it's about improving your way-of-life in a country where many don't make much. They make huge sacrifices and more power to them when it pays off.
Yeah, it has nothing to do with people who become slaves to the government for the sole purpose of boosting prestige, then are left to fend for themselves with no education and no training, is it?

Nope. No human rights abuses here.



Originally Posted by big whoppa
Matta, you know you couldn't compete with the lowest ranked player in ping pong. Who are we kidding here? And if ping pong is so uncool as you say, what was it doing in your fraternity house and why were you supposedly good at it?
I could easily take the ping pong championship. The problem with these people is they've never played where I've come from on the streets. I know many people right now who could win gold medals in ping pong, including me.

Why did we have a ping pong table? The same reason we had 300 red plastic cups and a hollowed out Coke machine for a keg.
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Im with Matta, I think I could take Ping Pong as well... One whiff of my "phantom serve" and its lights out!!!!
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http://www.gamesbids.com/eng/other_news/1216133649.html

ESPN To Bid For 2014 and 2016 Olympic Games Rights

Wednesday, August 20, 2008 10:35am EDT GB Staff

ESPN head George Bodenheimer said ESPN/ABC intends to bid for the rights to the 2014 Winter Games and the 2016 Summer Games when the International Olympic Committee (IOC) begins the auction process over the next year.

According to Multichannel News Bodenheimer said ESPN/ABC was "very interested" in the future Olympic rights while cautioning that it "still has to make business sense".

ESPN officials said bidding for the Sochi 2014 Games and the 2016 Games will likely unfold over the next six to nine months. A firm deadline is expected by October 2009 when the IOC determines which city - Rio de Janeiro, Tokyo, Madrid or Chicago - will host the 2016 Games.

The bidding is likely to surpass the $1 billion mark due to NBC Universal's ratings and digital-media success with the Beijing Games, which held an $894 million rights fee.

ESPN vice president of content John Skipper said, "if I was holding the auction I would definitely want to hold it after this Olympics".

ESPN officials said the IOC has assured them that the incumbent does not hold the rights for first negotiations and there will not be pre-emptive bidding for the package.

If ESPN/ABC secures the rights to the future Games it would differ from NBC's coverage in one regard. West Coast residents would not be held back from viewing top events as did NBC when Michael Phelps' record-breaking swims were held back until primetime arrived in the Pacific time zone, reports Multichannel.

Skipper said, "we would never put an event on tape delay. When we put ‘live' on the screen we mean live right now. We don't mean live three hours ago".

He added "the unnecessary manipulation" of events for ratings purposes is a disservice to sports fans who expect information as soon as events occur.
Bravo! And I hope that Disney/ABC/ESPN can win the bid.

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Old 08-20-08 | 05:58 PM
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China backlash? Really? From where? Other the the rather legit concerns about the ages of the Chinese gymnasts I haven't heard any backlash.

Where else? Various internet boards. Back to the use of a pretty face for the song and fireworks during the opening ceremonies and children being forced into these sports at an early age (as matta is doing). Seems those who are against the Chinese will find any excuse to discredit them and their accomplishments which is just bad sportmanship. Yet China has shown to the world that they can do one hell of an opening Olympics ceremony and have athletes who can compete and win with the best of the world. And on top of that from what I've witnessed, they've been great hosts welcoming and applauding for everyone (including countries they have frictions with). On the last note, I can't say that for the US during the Olympics hosted in America.

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Old 08-21-08 | 06:14 AM
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Where else? Various internet boards. Back to the use of a pretty face for the song and fireworks during the opening ceremonies and children being forced into these sports at an early age (as matta is doing). Seems those who are against the Chinese will find any excuse to discredit them and their accomplishments which is just bad sportmanship. Yet China has shown to the world that they can do one hell of an opening Olympics ceremony and have athletes who can compete and win with the best of the world.
Really? That's it? Some blowhards shakin' their dicks on a couple boards? Who takes any of them seriously? Again, I've seen nothing but appreciation for China, the Chinese people, and the success of Chinese Athletes from all over. Besides, it's natural that some will put down winners but it's nothing new or unexpected.
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NBC trying to retain the Michael Phelps glow

Thursday August 21, 11:39 am ET

By David Bauder, AP Television Writer

NBC agrees to televise swim championships in effort to keep the Michael Phelps glow

NEW YORK (AP) -- Trying to keep the Michael Phelps glow, NBC has agreed to televise next year's World Swimming Championships from Rome, along with the 2009, 2010 and 2011 national championships.

The deal, announced Thursday, is NBC's latest attempt to ride the wake of the Olympic golden boy's race to history. In large part because of Phelps' successful attempt to win eight gold medals in Beijing, NBC Universal's Olympic telecasts have been a ratings success.

Phelps' coach, Bob Bowman, had told the AP earlier that Phelps would definitely compete in Rome.

"It's like Michael said the other day, `Debbie (Phelps' mother) wants to go to Rome, I want to go to Rome, that's why we're going,'" he said.

Bowman said that in Rome the swimmer will focus on relays and shorter events, including the 100-meter freestyle and one of the backstroke events.

NBC has been advertising its own DVD of Phelps highlights since less than a half-hour after he earned his eighth medal. No immediate sales figures were available. The swimming star will also make an appearance from London during Sunday's closing festivities, NBC said. London is the site of the 2012 Olympics.

And guess who has already signed on to appear at this winter's Super Bowl, also broadcast by NBC?

The swimming championships will be shown on NBC for the first time. The network already has the rights to the 2012 U.S. Olympic swimming trials and the London games.

"The whole world watched as Michael Phelps took his sport to a new level and introduced a generation of fans to swimming through his extraordinary achievements," said Dick Ebersol, chairman of NBC Universal Sports & Olympics. "His accomplishments transcend sports and are, in fact, a cultural phenomenon. We're greatly looking forward to following the next chapter in his career."

NBC Universal, owned by General Electric Co., will top its ratings from the Athens Olympics four years ago -- an unusual feat in today's TV world. During the half-hour that Phelps raced for his eighth gold medal, NBC had 39.9 million viewers. More people were interested in that relay than in finding out the next "American Idol" or winners of this year's Academy Awards.

Phelps dutifully made the rounds of interviews at NBC after the race, visiting Bob Costas on Sunday's prime-time Olympic broadcast, the "Today" show's Matt Lauer on Monday and "Nightly News" anchor Brian Williams Monday.

Jim Bell, executive producer of "Today," had his complete team of Lauer, Meredith Vieira, Ann Curry and Al Roker in Beijing, a decision that paid off handsomely. "Today" last week had the widest margin of victory over ABC's second-place "Good Morning America" in eight years, nearly 3 million viewers on Friday.

"You get that kind of margin, and you have to think you're getting some people watching your show who don't always watch the show," he said. That's not a bad place to be heading into the Democratic National Convention next week and the general election campaign.

Same thing at "Nightly News," where Williams anchored at dawn in Beijing. His broadcast has been running nearly neck-and-neck with ABC's "World News" this year, and last week won by 2.5 million viewers.

At ESPN, where Phelps gave a much-replayed interview with Jeremy Schaap, the swimmer has also received much attention. But because NBC is the Olympics rights-holder, ESPN is limited in where it can send camera crews in Beijing and in how much it can use video replays of Phelps' race. That's limited much of their coverage to discussions, said Vince Doria, senior vice president and news director.

ESPN executives said this week they are interested in bidding for the 2014 and 2016 Olympics, as they have for past Olympics, and the experience of Phelps and NBC this week only increases their interest, Doria said.

ESPN is owned by The Walt Disney Co.

Chris
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