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Old 02-14-08 | 10:31 PM
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I saw this live this morning, but I was only halfway paying attention to the show. When it happened I did a double take, said "no way!" and rewound to make sure I heard correctly. Then, just for fun, I rewound it again. I love DVR!
Old 02-14-08 | 10:59 PM
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To be clear, there is a monologue in the Vagina Monologues that's about reclaiming the word, "****," kind of like some members of the black community use, "*******," in an effort to reclaim it from those who use it in a derogatory manner. In this particular monologue, the word is basically repeated ad nauseam for several minutes. Her use of the word was completely appropriate in context, which was discussing the a piece from the Vagina Monologues that uses that word, OVER and OVER and OVER. She wasn't being vulgar or inappropriate, and there's no reason she, the Today Show, or anyone should have to apologize.
Old 02-14-08 | 11:41 PM
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To be clear, there is a monologue in the Vagina Monologues that's about reclaiming the word, "****," kind of like some members of the black community use, "*******," in an effort to reclaim it from those who use it in a derogatory manner. In this particular monologue, the word is basically repeated ad nauseam for several minutes. Her use of the word was completely appropriate in context, which was discussing the a piece from the Vagina Monologues that uses that word, OVER and OVER and OVER. She wasn't being vulgar or inappropriate, and there's no reason she, the Today Show, or anyone should have to apologize.
Understood and you're right, it sucks.

But the Media companies are so uptight about the FCC and those fuckin' "Parent TV Watchdog Groups" it's kinda understandable.
Old 02-15-08 | 12:03 AM
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Understood and you're right, it sucks.

But the Media companies are so uptight about the FCC and those fuckin' "Parent TV Watchdog Groups" it's kinda understandable.
Of course, the PTC has already put an article up on their website complaining about it.

PTC complains about Jane Fonda saying c*nt on the Today Show.
Old 02-15-08 | 01:05 AM
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Of course, the PTC has already put an article up on their website complaining about it.

PTC complains about Jane Fonda saying c*nt on the Today Show.
I hate the PTC and organizations like it so much.
Old 02-15-08 | 07:40 AM
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I hate the PTC and organizations like it so much.
Ugh. Like any child would have been watching that. With all likelyhood any kid watching it who DIDN'T know the word already certainly would have had no idea what she meant from the context either. Again, it ain't a swear unless you use it in that context.
Old 02-15-08 | 08:01 AM
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That's terrible! Did she suck off the Viet Cong with that filthy mouth?
Old 02-15-08 | 09:31 AM
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Yeah cause I'm sure there were a lot of children watching Good morning America yesterday.
Old 02-15-08 | 09:40 AM
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Originally Posted by shaun3000
To be clear, there is a monologue in the Vagina Monologues that's about reclaiming the word, "****," kind of like some members of the black community use, "*******," in an effort to reclaim it from those who use it in a derogatory manner. In this particular monologue, the word is basically repeated ad nauseam for several minutes. Her use of the word was completely appropriate in context, which was discussing the a piece from the Vagina Monologues that uses that word, OVER and OVER and OVER. She wasn't being vulgar or inappropriate, and there's no reason she, the Today Show, or anyone should have to apologize.
I think Ms. Fonda forgot that the very word is considered one of the infamous "Seven Dirty Words" you can't say on over-air TV, more or less. That got her and NBC into trouble for all the wrong reasons. It would be understandable to use this word in the play The Vagina Monologues, but then, we are talking a play done to an audience of adults.
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What's the difference between vagina and ****? They were using vagina in every other sentence talking about the play. **** was used in the same context.

BESIDES, the FCC ruled once before that context is the controlling factor in if a word is inappropriate or not. (As FUCKING ridiculous as that sounds) Bono (from U2) received some award on a live, televised awards show. Well he said something along the lines of, "This is fucking great!" The ****y-whores, er, watchdog groups got their ****y-panties in a wad about it, and the FCC said since he was using fuck as an adjective, it was OK.

So again, anyone getting upset about this (or ANY use of ANY fucking word) can go and FUCK themselves.
Old 02-15-08 | 12:06 PM
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**** is the word that every girl I have ever known despises.
Old 02-15-08 | 12:07 PM
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Old 02-15-08 | 01:53 PM
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Hold on. Let's be a little fair about this. ****.

See can't say it here, either.

Well, motherfucker!
Old 02-15-08 | 04:57 PM
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Originally Posted by shaun3000
BESIDES, the FCC ruled once before that context is the controlling factor in if a word is inappropriate or not. (As FUCKING ridiculous as that sounds) Bono (from U2) received some award on a live, televised awards show. Well he said something along the lines of, "This is fucking great!" The ****y-whores, er, watchdog groups got their ****y-panties in a wad about it, and the FCC said since he was using fuck as an adjective, it was OK.
The FCC actually ruled that it was indecent and profane, but they declined to issue fines against NBC over the incident.
Old 02-15-08 | 05:12 PM
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What was indecent or profane about it?

The FCC should be disbanded.

And what did Jane Fonda ever do to be labeled a "traitor"?

As far as I know, she did more for the enlisted servicemembers than most, to include, but not limited to, chickenhawk cowards who haven't spent a single day in a foreign-soil war, but paint themselves as the grandest patriots in all of the land.

*signed, a veteran of multiple foreign-soil combat tours*


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Old 02-15-08 | 05:40 PM
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Looks like someone at DVDTalk gave the greenlight to the word ****.
Old 02-15-08 | 05:45 PM
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And what did Jane Fonda ever do to be labeled a "traitor"?
Didn't she do a photo-op with the intention of de-moralizing the American public with enemy troops in vietnam and strike a pose with a enemy anti-aircraft gun used to shoot American planes down???

Please, correct me if I'm wrong.

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Old 02-15-08 | 06:03 PM
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She did a lot worse than just taking a few photos. During her trip she made almost a dozen propaganda radio broadcasts for the enemy denouncing the US, praising the North Vietnam military and asking US soldiers to lay down their arms. She also said the North Vietnamese were treating US POWs humanely, unlike NV POWs in US camps who actually were being tortured. Even after the war when POWs returned to give horrifying accounts of their capture she called them liars and killers, who should be treated like war criminals, not heroes.
Old 02-15-08 | 06:55 PM
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On a lighter note...

Old 02-15-08 | 07:02 PM
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Originally Posted by DeltaSigChi4
What was indecent or profane about it?



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Believe it or not, the FCC bases it on what "reasonable" people might consider obscene. I would guess if you ran into a Mall and yelled "****!" most people, women in particular, would be highly offended. I know girls who go nuts when called "****". You can call them "Bitch" but once you call them a "****" all bets are off.

Either way, as far as I can tell the FCC isn't even on this Fonda thing...yet.

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Old 02-15-08 | 07:37 PM
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Old 02-15-08 | 07:38 PM
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Originally Posted by Giantrobo

Either way, as far as I can tell the FCC isn't even on this Fonda thing...yet.
Give them at least 5 years before issuing the fine.
Old 02-15-08 | 09:49 PM
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Old 02-15-08 | 11:15 PM
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Wake me up when there are boobies.
or bush... oh wait there's a joke there



"wha wha WHAT did she say!'
Old 02-15-08 | 11:26 PM
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Originally Posted by dan30oly
Didn't she do a photo-op with the intention of de-moralizing the American public with enemy troops in vietnam and strike a pose with a enemy anti-aircraft gun used to shoot American planes down???
AND .....

? *shrugs*

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