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#52
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My "favorite" of the Chelsia comments was when she said she couldn't talk about Natalie's abortions b/c the unborn fetuses didn't sign a waiver.
It was almost enough to make me feel sorry for Natalie. Almost...but then I remembered how big of a delusional hypocrite Natalie is and I didn't.
Still, Chelsia took it way too far. She might be the most disgusting female houseguest ever (though she has quite a bit of competition from this year alone).
It was almost enough to make me feel sorry for Natalie. Almost...but then I remembered how big of a delusional hypocrite Natalie is and I didn't.
Still, Chelsia took it way too far. She might be the most disgusting female houseguest ever (though she has quite a bit of competition from this year alone).
#53
Apparently, Sheila has told Joshua that Matt is "Family", but not explained it further and it has him perplexed. Sheila told someone else that her son has a similar "eye condition" to Matt and that's the problem. Natalie said that Chelsia was told by BB that she can't talk about her (Natalie's) mother or her "operations".
There was an interseting discussion tonight as Baller and the gang tried to piece together Natalie's life based on the stories she's told. It begins with her doing a year at Boston Market, then spending the next year stripping at the place across the street. She then ended up in Vegas stripping for four years. They're trying to figure out where the missing two years went to, where all her money went, and when she converted to Christianity, and how she can reconcile blowing Matt (and swallowing) the first week in the house. The prevailing theories right noiw is that she may have been a Meth-head , or that she worked at the Bunny Ranch...
There was an interseting discussion tonight as Baller and the gang tried to piece together Natalie's life based on the stories she's told. It begins with her doing a year at Boston Market, then spending the next year stripping at the place across the street. She then ended up in Vegas stripping for four years. They're trying to figure out where the missing two years went to, where all her money went, and when she converted to Christianity, and how she can reconcile blowing Matt (and swallowing) the first week in the house. The prevailing theories right noiw is that she may have been a Meth-head , or that she worked at the Bunny Ranch...
#54
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So, an interesting first hour last night. Natalie and James had serious discussions about being the final 2 in the game. If Natalie puts Joshuah and Sharon up tomorrow morning for eviction and says that it was because they are the last real couple in the house and also tells her alliance that she is doing it that way to backdoor James, then that means she has agreed to pair up with James till the end.
This might be her best chance to go to the final 2 because if James is evicted next Wednesday, then she will be a target in the near future. If she and James keep winning the POV's and keep each other safe, then they will be able to make it to the final 2 where they believe that Natalie has 5 votes and James has 3.
It will be interesting to see what happens.
Chris
This might be her best chance to go to the final 2 because if James is evicted next Wednesday, then she will be a target in the near future. If she and James keep winning the POV's and keep each other safe, then they will be able to make it to the final 2 where they believe that Natalie has 5 votes and James has 3.
It will be interesting to see what happens.
Chris
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Chris I saw that as well, however I believe later she was telling her alliance that she played James and he's the real target this week. "Matty's birthday present".
I'm not sure what is true but it really doesn't matter in the end, as long as one of Josh/Sharon/James leaves then Natalie's main alliance remains in control barring an HOH win.
I'm not sure what is true but it really doesn't matter in the end, as long as one of Josh/Sharon/James leaves then Natalie's main alliance remains in control barring an HOH win.
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Originally Posted by Phod
Chris I saw that as well, however I believe later she was telling her alliance that she played James and he's the real target this week. "Matty's birthday present".
I'm not sure what is true but it really doesn't matter in the end, as long as one of Josh/Sharon/James leaves then Natalie's main alliance remains in control barring an HOH win.
I'm not sure what is true but it really doesn't matter in the end, as long as one of Josh/Sharon/James leaves then Natalie's main alliance remains in control barring an HOH win.
Chris
#57
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If Natty doesn't put up James on the block, then she is hoping that James doesn't get picked up to play for POV, that's the only way to insure a backdoor strategy to get rid of James. But by at least entertaining the thought of a secret alliance with James, she can hope for the best (James does get to play for POV and wins POV) or at worst (James doesn't get to play for POV and gets backdoored, which makes her look like a genius to her overt alliance). So she could explain not putting up James as a ploy to hope that he doesn't get lucky enough to play for POV, otherwise, if James is up on the block, he's guaranteed a shot at POV, which is a bigger failed gamble than hoping he doesn't get picked to play for POV later after the nominations.
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Well, while I don't think it's here "only chance", I do agree that it's not a bad move. Then again, trusting James when he's already proved to be untrustworthy could backfire.
An equivalent, but possibly safer move would be to make a secret deal with Sharon that they will push for James to go home, since Josh and Sharon are now throwing James under the bus given last night's conversations, and in return get safety for a couple weeks in case Josh and Sharon back to back HOH.
An equivalent, but possibly safer move would be to make a secret deal with Sharon that they will push for James to go home, since Josh and Sharon are now throwing James under the bus given last night's conversations, and in return get safety for a couple weeks in case Josh and Sharon back to back HOH.
#59
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I haven't watched AD in days, and I wasn't planning on watching it tonight, but James WENT OFF on Sheila tonight. He went completely and totally around the bend. I personally can't stand Sheila, and while James really technically didn't say anything about her that isn't true it's still just too much.
Hopefully, they can find someone, anyone likeable for the summer show.
Hopefully, they can find someone, anyone likeable for the summer show.
#60
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Glad James called Sheila on her subversive verbal manueverings in the house, that's her form of game play. James didn't come off well during the rant, smacks of being a sore-loser-in-training, but at least it livened up the house last night.
#61
I just got done watching Thursday night's show and the last hour was fascinating. I've never quite seen that level of ferocity on the show, with James screaming within an inch of Sheila's face.
To some extent Sheila was asking for it, -the first two hours was Sheila's non-stop self-involved chatter, and I was pretty much ready for her to be hit with a brick. James, on the other hand, falls back on his "Woe is me!" act, crying about how he's been left all alone in the house with no one to "play" with, and how cruel they are to him. He has a slight point, -they tossed him out then brought him back and then are desperately trying to thow him out again, -but that's the game and you have to roll with it a little bit. The "personal" part of the game sucks, but it sucks for everybody. He's very spoiled...
Sheila, of course, now wants to be put up for eviction during the POV meeting...
To some extent Sheila was asking for it, -the first two hours was Sheila's non-stop self-involved chatter, and I was pretty much ready for her to be hit with a brick. James, on the other hand, falls back on his "Woe is me!" act, crying about how he's been left all alone in the house with no one to "play" with, and how cruel they are to him. He has a slight point, -they tossed him out then brought him back and then are desperately trying to thow him out again, -but that's the game and you have to roll with it a little bit. The "personal" part of the game sucks, but it sucks for everybody. He's very spoiled...
Sheila, of course, now wants to be put up for eviction during the POV meeting...
#63
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Looks like the 'good' people lost that chance to backdoor James because from here on out, everybody gets to play for POV from here on out, and that doesn't bode well for the rest of the houseguests.
I've already outlined the reason why Natty should have put up any 2 besides James, and then prayed for the outcome that James didn't get picked to play for POV, and then she could have backdoored him, but she played her cards stupidly, once again.
I've already outlined the reason why Natty should have put up any 2 besides James, and then prayed for the outcome that James didn't get picked to play for POV, and then she could have backdoored him, but she played her cards stupidly, once again.
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You can say whatever you want about Josh, but you can't say he doesn't know how to work the game. As for right now, there is an alliance of R/N/Josh/James for Sharon to go this week and for Adam and Sheila to go on the block next week (I'm sure Josh would keep that, but seriously how can anyone trust James).
Obviously, it's early, and the whole thing is contingent on Big She not finding out (b/c she'll go ape shit). Hopefully, Natalie can keep her big trap shut.
Obviously, it's early, and the whole thing is contingent on Big She not finding out (b/c she'll go ape shit). Hopefully, Natalie can keep her big trap shut.
#65
Its 24 hours after the big blow-up and things have changed again. Sheila seems to have patched things up with James and is sitting with his group while she suspects that Adam and Natalie are plotting against her. She suddenly has gotten over her desire to be put up on the block...
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Nevermind...didn't last long. Natalie (who can't help herself from talking) has already flipped on Ryan and spilled the entire plan to Sharon and Sheila and now they are plotting. Who knows what will happen? I guess ultimately if Sharon still goes up it will be up to Adam as to who stays.
I don't get this from Natalie's point of view (no surprise as she is very dumb). She's burned James again, and while he may still have put her up if he won HOH now he definitely will. Sharon is probably not going to try to win. Sheila is probably not going to try to win. And now she will have potentially burned Ryan. That leaves her with Adam.
Josh only has himself to blame b/c in his giddyness he supposedly let the secret out on his alliance with Ryan. They should have never said anything about that. It worked really well for quite a while.
I don't get this from Natalie's point of view (no surprise as she is very dumb). She's burned James again, and while he may still have put her up if he won HOH now he definitely will. Sharon is probably not going to try to win. Sheila is probably not going to try to win. And now she will have potentially burned Ryan. That leaves her with Adam.
Josh only has himself to blame b/c in his giddyness he supposedly let the secret out on his alliance with Ryan. They should have never said anything about that. It worked really well for quite a while.
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Sometimes Adam cracks me up. Check out this video clip. It gets quite funny about 90 or so seconds in.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Im_aw91Sa9k
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Im_aw91Sa9k
#71
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With Adam as new HoH, he's flipped the house up on its end: Adam nominated Sharon and Sheila for eviction, but James is still at risk and probably has win POV to stay in the house.
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Originally Posted by Patman
With Adam as new HoH, he's flipped the house up on its end: Adam nominated Sharon and Sheila for eviction, but James is still at risk and probably has win POV to stay in the house.
But Adam was second guessing his decision, saying that he screwed up by putting Sheila up. These people couldn't make a permanent decision to save their lives.
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You really have to wonder when stuff like this happens. The best plan of attack for Adam was Sharon and James. If either one of them wins POV, the other one goes. Now he may be looking at Sheila, Natalie or Ryan going with the blood on his hands.
A smarter player would have gotten one of the remaining stragglers out of the way and let next week's HOH winner deal with turning on an alliance member.
A smarter player would have gotten one of the remaining stragglers out of the way and let next week's HOH winner deal with turning on an alliance member.
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Originally Posted by TwineTime
You really have to wonder when stuff like this happens. The best plan of attack for Adam was Sharon and James. If either one of them wins POV, the other one goes. Now he may be looking at Sheila, Natalie or Ryan going with the blood on his hands.
A smarter player would have gotten one of the remaining stragglers out of the way and let next week's HOH winner deal with turning on an alliance member.
A smarter player would have gotten one of the remaining stragglers out of the way and let next week's HOH winner deal with turning on an alliance member.



