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hardercore 02-10-08 06:50 PM


Originally Posted by kaze0
Maybe Ben's source is the little girl from his childhood? Did we ever find out what happened to her? Or maybe she's why they are after ben

Didn't he say "I have a man on that boat?"

redrum 02-10-08 07:20 PM


Originally Posted by DthRdrX
Saw this elsewhere. First pic is when Miles went up the stairs. Second is when he came down. Both times the camera went to the boy's picture.

http://img171.imageshack.us/img171/715/lostqg6.jpg

frames are different too. weird.

DthRdrX 02-10-08 07:49 PM

Not only are the frames different, some of the pictures are as well.

TomOpus 02-10-08 08:01 PM

So, is this just a bad continuity error or does it mean something?

Nick Martin 02-10-08 08:15 PM


Originally Posted by TomOpus
So, is this just a bad continuity error or does it mean something?

With this show, do you even have to ask? :)

JeremyM 02-10-08 08:39 PM

The time travel idea will go over the heads of 99% of the audience, probably me included. Look at how many people were confused by Back to the Future II, even with Doc Brown breaking it all down on a chalkboard!

TomOpus 02-10-08 08:51 PM


Originally Posted by Nick Martin
With this show, do you even have to ask? :)

I know :) They did it just to mess with us.

kaze0 02-11-08 07:55 AM


Originally Posted by hardercore
Didn't he say "I have a man on that boat?"

Yes, but when I heard that line I immediately thought it might have been a woman. It seems like women play large roles in the show.

redskull 02-11-08 09:29 AM


Originally Posted by Rockmjd23
I can see the backstory of everything being complicated but the main story with the survivors remaining somewhat simple to digest.

It would pretty much have to be. This is TV after all. You have to show, not tell. I have to chuckle when I see these 20 page Island theories that people write and post. Sure they may have some fascinating ideas, but the real answer has to be simple and straightforward and can't be anywhere near that complex. Can you imagine a final episode where Ben just stands there and explains everything for 45 minutes?

GradVT06 02-11-08 11:06 AM

Wow, that linked theory with its own FAQ, Rebuttals, and supporting ideas is pretty damn good.

dsa_shea 02-11-08 02:10 PM


Originally Posted by JeremyM
The time travel idea will go over the heads of 99% of the audience, probably me included. Look at how many people were confused by Back to the Future II, even with Doc Brown breaking it all down on a chalkboard!

Maybe the last season will be 16 episodes of a man in front of a chalkboard breaking it all down. Talk about anticlimactic.

RichC2 02-11-08 02:20 PM

I just expect the ending to Neon Genesis: Evangelion all over again.

For those that don't know, it's an anime series from around 1995 that aired in Japan. It was a mix of introverted personalities, religious beliefs, the apocalypse, government politics, and, of course, giant robots. The series builds to a climax, but never shows it, instead it opted to have the final two episodes essentially take place in the main character's head (open to interpretation.) (Caused a huge uproar when it aired, they wound up making a movie to "clarify" it all.)

I can see it now, the last few episodes taking place in Jack's head. Ah, that'd turn out great. (Of course, it wouldn't really work, since Jack isn't exactly the "main character" at this point.)

DVD Josh 02-11-08 02:28 PM


Originally Posted by RichC2

I can see it now, the last few episodes taking place in Jack's head. Ah, that'd turn out great. (Of course, it wouldn't really work, since Jack isn't exactly the "main character" at this point.)

I strongly disagree with that.

kakihara1 02-11-08 02:31 PM


Originally Posted by DVD Josh
I strongly disagree with that.

Yeah even though the show goes away from Jack from time to time, it's never too far and the focus always comes back to him.

RichC2 02-11-08 02:32 PM

The show balances off of him since he's the leader of the pact - he was the first introduced, he is the leader of one side. As such, he is technically the main character for the show. However, unlike say 24, I feel Lost can very quickly shift the focal point of the show away from him and create a new main in no time at all due to the shows overall structure and back stories.

In otherwords, he always came off more of a jumping off point for the writers to focus on more so than the "key" to the show. It's about the characters and the island, not about Jack. At least, imo. Of course, there are shitloads of theories that can wrap around it otherwise.

maxfisher 02-11-08 03:40 PM

I almost quit reading the linked theory when the second paragraph contained this gem:


Originally Posted by Lost Theory Geek
In addition to your body going through the time machine, say you contracted a deadly disease in 1965, but went back to 1960, before you developed the disease – you wouldn’t have the disease when you stepped out of the time machine in a past time. Makes sense, right?

No. That makes absolutely no sense. Some of the hypothesized alternate time line stuff he puts out is interesting and might play a part in the show, but he also throws out all kinds of whacky ideas that sound really stupid.

I do think there's a good chance that, in the end, it'll turn out that there are multiple parallel dimensions and something about the island lets people move through them. I'm also guessing we'll find out that when people die, they just move on to another dimension. The biggest experiment of the Dharma initiative could've been trying to open portals to other dimensions to bring the dead back to our world. I'm guessing this is pretty similar to the 'Dark Tower' theory a couple people have mentioned.

adamblast 02-11-08 03:48 PM

I don't see how *any* parallel dimension or time-travel theory really explains all of the visions.

Whatever mechanism appears to bring back the dead also has to account for being able to materialize *FICTIONAL* people as well. (Hurley's imaginary friend.)

RichC2 02-11-08 03:49 PM

Yeah that time travel/disease thing makes no sense. I was thinking a similar island/parallel lives thing.


Originally Posted by adamblast
I don't see how *any* parallel dimension or time-travel theory really explains all of the visions.

Whatever mechanism appears to bring back the dead also has to account for being able to materialize *FICTIONAL* people as well. (Hurley's imaginary friend.)

Why? If Hurley can see his imaginary friend off the island, why wouldn't he just as easily be able to see him on the island?

adamblast 02-11-08 04:13 PM


Originally Posted by RichC2
Why? If Hurley can see his imaginary friend off the island, why wouldn't he just as easily be able to see him on the island?

Going by memory, I thought they'd established that he was physically really there, as a result of his imaginings. Like the horse.

Matter's being created by the mind in some way or another. I don't see how windows & portals make it all possible.

ANDREMIKE 02-11-08 04:44 PM

some good stuff on that website. It might explain why Jack wants to get back to the island, so he doesn't die..

DVD Josh 02-11-08 04:54 PM


Originally Posted by ANDREMIKE
some good stuff on that website. It might explain why Jack wants to get back to the island, so he doesn't die..

So he doesn't die? He was 10 seconds from jumping of a bridge into the LA "River".

aktick 02-11-08 06:24 PM


Originally Posted by DVD Josh
So he doesn't die? He was 10 seconds from jumping of a bridge into the LA "River".

Ha, agreed, I think dieing is the least of his concerns. I'm guessing a big part of him wanting to get back to the island is he literally has nothing in the "real" world, and knows he can truly be at peace on the island.

RichC2 02-11-08 06:40 PM


Originally Posted by adamblast
Going by memory, I thought they'd established that he was physically really there, as a result of his imaginings. Like the horse.

Matter's being created by the mind in some way or another. I don't see how windows & portals make it all possible.

Point taken. So back to the projection goodness that Klugh mentioned.

slop101 02-11-08 06:58 PM

It's implied that Lieutenant Daniels is with Dahrma, so with that we can infer that they have the Island bugged. So any day now, McNulty and Bunk are gonna bust in and arrest Ben and the Others - but then Omar's gonna beat them to the punch and take his own revenge...

calhoun07 02-11-08 07:50 PM


Originally Posted by JeremyM
The time travel idea will go over the heads of 99% of the audience, probably me included. Look at how many people were confused by Back to the Future II, even with Doc Brown breaking it all down on a chalkboard!

I don't know anybody who was confused by that movie. Must be just your friends, dude.


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