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Old 12-13-07 | 03:32 PM
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I think Sophia was a no-brainer for the $50,000 gold star (stah) as well. She won the first one by working hard without knowing there was an incentive to work hard. She continued to work hard without knowing there was another incentive at the end of the show as well. Hopefully they will invest her money well since she will definitely be college-bound.

The reaction of Morgan's dad to what Greg said of Morgan was nice to see as well as the words of praise from Mike's mom to the kids.

I do not see how they can put the magic back in the bottle for a Season 2 though...
Old 12-13-07 | 05:07 PM
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I feel bad for the people who felt this was too staged, or whatever it was that turned them off initially, and didn't see this season. It was inspirational for me to see how great some of these kids were. I've been thinking about changing careers to become a teacher, instead of working for some company the rest of my life, and seeing kids like these really affirms that idea for me.
Old 12-13-07 | 06:09 PM
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Mike got screwed.
Old 12-13-07 | 06:52 PM
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Mike annoyed me, he was too manic.
Old 12-14-07 | 10:49 AM
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I think filming is already completed for Season 2, they were taking applications during the summer and filming this fall. The Season 2 kids won't know anything about what happened to the Season 1 kids so they will be able to recreate some of the mystery of the gold star and events of the show.
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I think filming is already completed for Season 2, they were taking applications during the summer and filming this fall. The Season 2 kids won't know anything about what happened to the Season 1 kids so they will be able to recreate some of the mystery of the gold star and events of the show.
Can you link to this information? This is the first that I (we) have heard of this. If this is true, it would be great news. Hopefully they would show it this spring instead of next fall.

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Old 12-14-07 | 11:39 AM
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Season 2? kidding me? i don't understand the show at all... all i see is bunch of kids in the candy store drinking soda till they burst or something.

There's no limited food supplies, there's no hardship at all... Definitely skipping season two.
Old 12-14-07 | 11:57 AM
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Originally Posted by mrpayroll
Can you link to this information? This is the first that I (we) have heard of this. If this is true, it would be great news. Hopefully they would show it this spring instead of next fall.
Here is a link from a CBS affiliate page:
http://cbs2.com/misc/Open.Call.Infor....2.533995.html
Approximately 40 finalists (the final number of which will be determined by Producer) will be selected as contestants to participate in this program. Filming is presently scheduled to occur sometime between October - December 2007 at a location to be announced.
I take this to mean the 40 days of filming will occur between October and December, so I guess there is a chance that the kids will have seen the first couple shows.

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Old 12-14-07 | 12:11 PM
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Originally Posted by PerryD
Here is a link from a CBS affiliate page:
http://cbs2.com/misc/Open.Call.Infor....2.533995.html

I take this to mean the 40 days of filming will occur between October and December, so I guess there is a chance that the kids will have seen the first couple shows.
That is very interesting, thank you!

But it seems that Season 2 kids would already now about the $20k

Prizing:
Each episode ends with a town meeting in which the kids award one child a gold star worth $20,000, all leading to the grand finale, with an unimaginable test, the biggest awards and a special surprise for every child.
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Old 12-14-07 | 01:32 PM
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Season 2? kidding me? i don't understand the show at all... all i see is bunch of kids in the candy store drinking soda till they burst or something.

There's no limited food supplies, there's no hardship at all... Definitely skipping season two.
This show is more about how each kid deals with everyday situations and with the other kids. This isn't Survivor Kid Nation.

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Old 12-14-07 | 01:49 PM
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Hopefully season 2 will have more non-actor kids involved this time. There was a interview in the local paper with Migli (who lives nearby, I think in Downer's Grove IL), and she said that she was contacted by her agent to participate on this show.

For Season 2, my kids knew about the tryouts and wanted to participate. They spent a lot of time filling out all of the forms, and working on a video to submit, but ultimately they didn't end up sending it in.
Old 12-14-07 | 05:33 PM
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Were there any rules regarding council members' eligibility for gold stars? At least one of the "final 4" gold stars should have gone to a council member, imo. I haven't decided which one, but the total non-recognition of the council seemed kinda "off" to me.
Old 12-15-07 | 02:21 PM
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Didn't all of them already have a gold star?

And while maybe they should have been eligible for one of the 3 big stars at the end, I don't think any one of the final council really deserved it. Greg? Blaine? DK? Michael? Well, maybe Michael.

I also have doubts that a second season can be as interesting as the first. No doubt the producers will be tricking things up to make it different, though.

I also agree that the entire season seemed too heavily "scripted".
Old 12-16-07 | 12:31 AM
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According to The Fort the 2nd season may NOT be happening!

lildago - I thought I'd read it somewhere.

http://www.usatoday.com/life/televis... nation_N.htm (link not working)


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For CBS reality show Kid Nation, the controversy may have been too big and the ratings too small.

Kid Nation (tonight, 8 ET/PT) asked 40 youths to build their own society in a New Mexico ghost town. But the show faced heavy criticism before it was broadcast, fueled by allegations that the show didn't properly care for the children, ages 8 to 15. (The New Mexico attorney general isn't pursuing an inquiry.)

Controversy faded once Kid Nation aired, but the reality series hasn't mustered much buzz or viewership, placing third in its time slot with 7.7 million viewers.

Tonight's season finale will try to go out with more of a bang, offering gold stars worth $50,000 each to three of the young "pioneers" and promising "one last heart-wrenching surprise."

CBS hasn't decided whether to renew the show, but Horizon Media analyst Brad Adgate doesn't think chances are good unless a prolonged writers' strike increases demand for more unscripted shows.

Kid Nation was hurt by the early controversy, says executive producer Tom Forman, who is casting for a possible second edition. "It's not the kind of buzz you want to launch with."

Once Nation premiered, Forman says it attracted a dedicated following among young viewers and families. "I'm very proud of this show and very proud of the kids," he says. "It's a family show. At the end of the day, it makes you feel very good."

CBS alternative-programming chief Ghen Maynard acknowledges the ratings difficulty but says Nation met the network's content goal: "to do shows that touch people are (are) about something. I thought the storytelling was terrific and the casting was fantastic."

Randi Buchanan, 12, of Sparks, Nev., left early because she was homesick. She calls Nation "a great experience" and wishes she had stayed the full 40 days.

"It was a great challenge — and hard," she says, recalling tasks that included cooking, cleaning, washing dishes and doing laundry. "It teaches people it's not all about sleeping and being lazy. You've got to work."


Kid Nation Makes Little Racket, After All - TV Decoder - Media & Television - New York Times Blog


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CBS’s controversial reality series “Kid Nation” went out with a whimper on Wednesday, with a fourth-place finish in the 18- to 49-year-old demographic.

The finale averaged a 2.2 rating and a 6 share in the 18-to-49 demographic, but garnered enough viewers (7.4 million) for a second-place finish among total viewers.

A 2.2 demographic rating was just about average for the series, which premiered amid a scandal in September but quickly lost momentum. The series dispatched 40 children to the New Mexico desert to build a community without adult supervision (except for the show producers of course). Before the series debuted, concerns were raised about child-labor issues, although New Mexico did not pursue charges in the matter.

“Kid Nation” dispatched 40 children to the New Mexico desert to build a community without adult supervision. (CBS)Advertisers were initially wary of the reality show, but quickly warmed to the concept, even as ratings slipped, Edward Wyatt reported in October.

Tom Forman, the executive producer, believes the program was hurt by the early controversy. “It’s not the kind of buzz you want to launch with,” he told USA Today earlier this week.

CBS hasn’t said whether Wednesday’s “Kid Nation” was the season finale or the series finale. There is a chance — perhaps just a slim chance — that the series could return for a second season.

In September, Bill Carter reported that CBS had “already held some casting sessions for new children.” But any plans for a second season “could be complicated by a new wrinkle: CBS cannot be sure it will be able to find a state whose laws will accommodate the show’s format,” he noted.

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Old 12-16-07 | 03:00 AM
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I agree that Migle should have gotten a 20k star and Zach the 50, but when they gave him the gold star, they didn't know about the extra stars, and probably didn't want to leave him without a star.

IMDB now lists 30 of the 40 kids with their full names. Yes, some have acted before.

Here's a commercial with Taylor...

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Old 12-16-07 | 03:18 AM
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Ha! That's the perfect role for her--she's a cute kid when she's not talking.
Old 12-16-07 | 04:43 AM
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I really liked this show despite it having the worst host on TV bar none.

I'd like to see it come back with a different host but I agree all involved would be hard pressed to match the inaugural season's fresh factor.
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I really liked this show despite it having the worst host on TV bar none..
WHAT! ... ARE! ... YOU! ...TALKING! ... ABOUT?!
Old 12-17-07 | 08:38 AM
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I really liked this show despite it having the worst host on TV bar none.

I'd like to see it come back with a different host but I agree all involved would be hard pressed to match the inaugural season's fresh factor.
I thought the host was ok. The kids seemed to like him.
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Originally Posted by mrpayroll
This show is more about how each kid deals with everyday situations and with the other kids. This isn't Survivor Kid Nation.

Chris

See, that's the thing i don't get (and yes, i was a bit confused between Survivor and KN), if there's technically no supply limits, i don't see problems...

I skimmed through the entire season, mainly b/c i want to see more "sufferings" but i guess it never really happened... Not getting a gold star for not doing work is common sense, if a kid doesn't understand that (even after examples), well, i don't know what to say (and too many were rewarded anyway, it was not rare at all, the part about calling the parent was way too repetitive to watch).

I'm more interested in kids solving problems like limited food supplies, saving up money as a group to purchase appliances/gadgets they need/want, discussions about community officers (okay a bit covered in the arcade episode) to establish orders and prosperity (the council is very weak, to me it's like a postional rotation, i.e. "okay, it's your turn now."). I'm also interested in kids' ability of sharing in "difficult" times....
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http://www.ew.com/ew/article/0,,20216037,00.html

What Were They Thinking?
What former stars from ''Flavor of Love,'' ''My Super Sweet 16,'' and more were thinking when they signed on

-----(cut just for relevant part, next to last blurb)------

Kid Nation

Taylor DuPriest

The pageant winner, who became known for telling fellow contestants to ''deal with it!,'' joined CBS' 2007 series that saw 40 kids take over a ghost town, ostensibly fending for themselves.

I heard about Kid Nation through pageants. I didn't hear about the ghost town at first — I just heard about going away for 40 days with 40 kids without your parents.

But I was surprised that everybody ended up making so much controversy that we were by ourselves, because that's not true!

There were more camera crew and producers than there were kids. There was only one time I was upset with the producers — when we were fixing to kill the chickens and they were telling me to say ''Ugly chickens deserve to die'' and all that kind of stuff.

I didn't realize they'd actually make it out on TV to sound that bad. But when I did see it, I was like, ''Whoa! That's not how that went.'' I wasn't okay with how they made me look. I didn't act like that the whole time. Sometimes I did, but I was 10!

When the show was on TV, my parents were like, ''Taylor, did you really do that?'' And I would actually tell them how it went, if the producers told me to say that.

Sometimes my friends would help me when people would come up to me and make fun of me and say ''Deal with it'' or ''Ugly chickens deserve to die.''

It's like my friends kind of knew that some of it wasn't real. Even though I was the bad person, it was a once-in-a-lifetime experience, so I'd love to go back. It was fun.

http://www.ew.com/ew/article/0,,20216037,00.html
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Read this in the paper mag. Doesn't really matter. There won't be another season.
Old 08-11-08 | 10:31 AM
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I was hoping that the bump meant that there would be another season.

Once again the minority of dissenters (in the U.S.) are able to overcome the good that came out of season one. Millions of kids who watched were able to get some inspiration by the positive actions of most of the kids (Taylor not withstanding - though she did bring out the drama).

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