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Old 11-16-07 | 09:12 AM
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Where was the Nard Dog in this episode?
Sadly, on the cutting room floor...

He made the deleted scene cut on NBC.com, though.

http://www.nbc.com/The_Office/video/#mea=184156
Old 11-16-07 | 09:32 AM
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Originally Posted by slappy
Sadly, on the cutting room floor...

He made the deleted scene cut on NBC.com, though.

http://www.nbc.com/The_Office/video/#mea=184156

That was good and I agree that it should have been left in.
Old 11-16-07 | 09:42 AM
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Originally Posted by Boba Fett
I think the seeds for Ryan's ultimate firing were planted tonight:

The guy in charge at the deposition had them print up copies of Michael's diary for those involved with the case, after it had been admitted as legal evidence.

Notice the shot at lunch of Ryan with the head-honchos reading the diary? 10:1 that will be Ryan's undoing.

I say he'll bring it out later to humiliate Michael, and as I've already predicted Toby will come to Michael's aide and point out its illegal for him to be showing it around. Either Ryan will get fired for it, or they'll find Wallace, Ryan's boss gave him an unauthorized copy and both will get the can over it.

It would make for a great series finale to have Michael end up successfully suing the company and making out big time, all thanks to Toby.
If anything in this episode brings about Ryan's undoing it would his predeposition chat with Michael about Michael's testimony in Jan's lawsuit being favorable to the company.

Jan's performance view was harsh but it basically stated what many viewers have observed for quite some time: Michael's strength is sales with the company, not management.
Old 11-16-07 | 10:20 AM
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What a great episode! I almost pissed myself laughing after the "tray push".
glad i wasn't the only one! i thought it was one of the funniest things in the show's history.
Old 11-16-07 | 10:20 AM
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Originally Posted by FinkPish
Wasn't Jan prepping Michael one last time in the car on the drive to corporate? I would assume that she was making sure he was saying what her lawyer had told her to say.

Anyway, the whole point of that was that Michael is generally unstable in that kind of situation, which is what makes it so funny. If you want real-er lawyers and real-er witnesses, Law and Order is still running, I believe.
On "Law and Order," Fred Thompson is the Manhattan DA, even though he sounds like a guy who owns a tobacco plantation.

As for the prep, if you're a lawyer, and you are presenting a witness, first of all, you had better know everything they are going to say. Any lawyer who is ever surprised by his own witness has screwed up horribly. You don't tell them what to say, but you better know the answer to every question you expect the other side to ask, and you teach the witness not to volunteer damaging facts that aren't prompted by the questions being asked, like Michael did.
Old 11-16-07 | 10:26 AM
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Originally Posted by wishbon3
If anything in this episode brings about Ryan's undoing it would his predeposition chat with Michael about Michael's testimony in Jan's lawsuit being favorable to the company.

Jan's performance view was harsh but it basically stated what many viewers have observed for quite some time: Michael's strength is sales with the company, not management.
I must have missed that at the beginning. But, yes, if that comes out, it would probably change the settlement picture and the company would be very displeased with Ryan. Michael isn't canny enough to use that information proactively, but he's likely to let it slip.

One thing that is interesting is that, now that Jan has broken her connection to Dunder Mifflin, it seems really unlikely that she will break up with Michael, because there's no other reason for her to continue to be on the show if she does. I think they're setting these characters up to stay in this bad relationship over a long term, which is really bold in comedy. I think Greg Daniels is a genius.
Old 11-16-07 | 10:27 AM
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The Show is Getting Darker

It's amazing how dark the show at the end of the past two episodes! Jim realizes his dreams of becoming a sports writer or guitar player are as likely as Michael achieving his professional dreams. Jim’s realizing how difficult the manager’s job is in the next-to-last episode and repeating Michael’s catchphrase was a subtle dig to himself.

The drive back to Scranton was really dark. It’s clear he can’t afford to give Jan the lifestyle to which she’s become accustomed (cheap Chinese vs. cheap fast food) as a Scranton branch manager. The manner in which she reviewed his performance and then callously sacrificed him on the altar with his diary made him to achieve her own financial goals was pretty vicious.

I don’t think Michael siding with D-M had to do with being liked so much as it had to do with loyalty. Michael realized he isn’t upper management material, but it was clear Wallace as a distant colleague was much less inclined to treat him as collateral damage by having his professional shortcomings entered in to the court record since he considers him a “nice” guy than his own girlfriend.

I'm happy the show has returned to giving Michael the persona of a basically good guy who is completely over his head and becomes wildly inappropriate at the most inopportune times. I think Michael realizes his relationship with Jan is tenuous at best and basically the result of two damaged people finding comfort in one another.

To end on a positive note, I like how Michael berated her for bringing his diary (which she did in a pre-meditated manner), and she then berated him for sending a topless photo to everyone they work with (which he did through his typical ineptitude), and then they ended the conversation by saying “I love you.”
Old 11-16-07 | 10:51 AM
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Originally Posted by ScandalUMD
On "Law and Order," Fred Thompson is the Manhattan DA, even though he sounds like a guy who owns a tobacco plantation.

As for the prep, if you're a lawyer, and you are presenting a witness, first of all, you had better know everything they are going to say. Any lawyer who is ever surprised by his own witness has screwed up horribly. You don't tell them what to say, but you better know the answer to every question you expect the other side to ask, and you teach the witness not to volunteer damaging facts that aren't prompted by the questions being asked, like Michael did.
Are you serious?

This________is________not________real________life! It is a TV show! Why are you arguing like it is? Michael screwing up was the nexus of the comedy for this episode.
Old 11-16-07 | 11:42 AM
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great episode.

CFO and jan = funny
corporate ryan = not funny
Old 11-16-07 | 12:45 PM
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Great episode. I liked the Pam/Kelly storyline a lot.
Old 11-16-07 | 01:52 PM
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This episode was a little more serious than I'm used to for the Office, but it was alright. Loved the parts with Toby sitting at the table during the deposition, especially when he let out a laugh during the bit where they were reading the passage from Michael's diary where he called Ryan a different kind of hot.

"You expect to get screwed by your company, but you don't expect to get screwed by your girlfriend."
Old 11-16-07 | 02:23 PM
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Best episode this year, the only one that made me feel like the writers hadn't been on strike since the season premiere. I died at the "I'll allow it" line, too.
Old 11-16-07 | 03:10 PM
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That's what she said.
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Best part IMO was when Toby and Micheal were sitting down at lunch and Toby started to tell him about his parents divorcing. I really thought Micheal was going put his hatred aside and take Toby's sympathy but then out of no where he shoves his food off the table and walks away.
Old 11-16-07 | 03:26 PM
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I laughed hard at this episode.

Best episode of the season.
Top five Office episodes, in terms of laughs.


Dwight: "Yes, my childhood idols were table tennis champions." (just HAPPENED to be)
Dwight: "Jim, you dumbass, Darryl works downstairs!"
Old 11-16-07 | 04:34 PM
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Did Jan get real bolt-on upgrades, or was that just a push-up bra?
Old 11-16-07 | 04:38 PM
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Great ep.
Old 11-16-07 | 04:43 PM
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Did Jan get real bolt-on upgrades, or was that just a push-up bra?
I think that I read in an interview with her that it's a special bra.

Melora is smoking though, isn't she?
Old 11-16-07 | 04:47 PM
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Originally Posted by Mopower
Best part IMO was when Toby and Micheal were sitting down at lunch and Toby started to tell him about his parents divorcing. I really thought Micheal was going put his hatred aside and take Toby's sympathy but then out of no where he shoves his food off the table and walks away.
I only saw the first episode of the season. I'm waiting for the others...
Old 11-16-07 | 04:50 PM
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I about died when Michael said "I'll allow it.".
It reminded me of the IASIP episode maybe a month or so ago when Charlie decided to act like a TV lawyer.
Old 11-16-07 | 04:53 PM
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Originally Posted by DarkestPhoenix
I only saw the first episode of the season. I'm waiting for the others...

Boosh! You've got mail!
Old 11-16-07 | 05:34 PM
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Originally Posted by Barings
It's amazing how dark the show at the end of the past two episodes! Jim realizes his dreams of becoming a sports writer or guitar player are as likely as Michael achieving his professional dreams. Jim’s realizing how difficult the manager’s job is in the next-to-last episode and repeating Michael’s catchphrase was a subtle dig to himself.

The drive back to Scranton was really dark. It’s clear he can’t afford to give Jan the lifestyle to which she’s become accustomed (cheap Chinese vs. cheap fast food) as a Scranton branch manager. The manner in which she reviewed his performance and then callously sacrificed him on the altar with his diary made him to achieve her own financial goals was pretty vicious.

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I'm happy the show has returned to giving Michael the persona of a basically good guy who is completely over his head and becomes wildly inappropriate at the most inopportune times. I think Michael realizes his relationship with Jan is tenuous at best and basically the result of two damaged people finding comfort in one another.

To end on a positive note, I like how Michael berated her for bringing his diary (which she did in a pre-meditated manner), and she then berated him for sending a topless photo to everyone they work with (which he did through his typical ineptitude), and then they ended the conversation by saying “I love you.”
Best post of the thread. The bolded paragraph explains exactly what I think Michael's motivation was
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Originally Posted by DVD Josh
I think that I read in an interview with her that it's a special bra.

Melora is smoking though, isn't she?
Truth!
Old 11-16-07 | 08:07 PM
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but I thought the "that's what she said" line that they called him on was a bit unrealistic even for Michael Scott.
really? a line he's been shown to say ALL THE TIME, in any situation? that's unbelievable?
Old 11-16-07 | 08:22 PM
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really? a line he's been shown to say ALL THE TIME, in any situation? that's unbelievable?

Yeah, I've had some issues with some of the craziness at times, but that is a very established gag from the show.


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