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Christmas '07
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How long do you the the WGA strike will last?

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Old 11-12-07 | 09:56 PM
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when this happened last time, what was on tv?
Old 11-12-07 | 10:11 PM
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I thought the SAG/DGA stuff ended in June 2008.
I have heard it's about 6 months. I'm just not sure if they are over at exactly the same time or if there is a little window between the two. I think this gets done with just enough time to get a deal done with the other two.
Old 11-12-07 | 10:23 PM
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They need to start thinking about playing football everyday of the week.
Old 11-13-07 | 12:45 AM
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I hope it lasts a long time. More reality TV!
Old 11-13-07 | 12:46 AM
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If this thing doesnt get resolved in the next couple of weeks..This thing is going until June, when the SAG contract is up.
Old 11-13-07 | 04:06 AM
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It seems to me that the studios and writers just aren't on the same page at all. The writers and showrunners better be careful...as they may not have a show to come back to if the studios decide to cancel their shows to punish them.
Old 11-13-07 | 07:39 AM
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I think it'll last well into the new year. The rest of the '07-'08 TV season is likely toast. The real question is will this last long enough to affect the '08-'09 season and '09 at the multiplexes.
Old 11-13-07 | 11:12 AM
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Originally Posted by DJariya
It seems to me that the studios and writers just aren't on the same page at all. The writers and showrunners better be careful...as they may not have a show to come back to if the studios decide to cancel their shows to punish them.
That's a pretty extreme step, but I worry about it happening with The Office in particular. That's a hangout for people who have a slash in their title and would be the perfect show to kill to make a point.
Old 11-13-07 | 11:50 AM
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According to TV Guide:

With the Writers Guild of America strike entering its ninth day, network executives are now saying they don't expect a settlement until early next year. As of late Monday, there was not even a hint of the WGA and the Alliance of Motion Pictures and Television Producers, which represents the studios, returning to the bargaining table, as both sides are dug in on the issue of residual payments for DVD and digital distribution of programs.

"We're being told by our labor people that it won't be resolved before the end of the year," says one network executive.

There are also no signs that any of the late-night talk-show hosts will return to their desks without writers. Several network insiders said published reports about a scenario where substitute hosts fill in for Jay Leno on NBC's Tonight Show and Conan O'Brien on Late Night with Conan O'Brien was unlikely. "It would be hard for any late-night host to go on without writers, but someone who's never hosted before?" said one exec. But the hosts will clearly feel the pressure to return as the staffs of those shows could be laid off after this week. — Reporting by Stephen Battaglio
Old 11-13-07 | 11:56 AM
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I wonder if Conan would technically be in breach of his deal that gives him either the Tonight Show or a hefty buyout in 2009 if he doesn't return. If so, that could give NBC a hefty amount of ability to pressure one of Jay and Conan to return. They could give Jay the carrot that if he comes back, they'll void Conan's deal and Conan the stick that they'll kill his deal and not give him Tonight if he stays out.
Old 11-13-07 | 12:18 PM
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They could give Jay the carrot that if he comes back, they'll void Conan's deal and Conan the stick that they'll kill his deal and not give him Tonight if he stays out.
Giving Conan "the stick" before his 2009 stint even begins is not a great way to start what I assume NBC hopes will be a relationship that continues for a solid decade or two.


I doubt very much that networks will start playing hardball by making threats or taking actions that have such wide-reaching impact.
Old 11-13-07 | 12:24 PM
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Maybe NBC is having second thoughts about forcing Jay out, particularly if Conan isn't willing to show the Carson-like ability to tough out a writers strike.
Old 11-13-07 | 12:59 PM
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Originally Posted by Jimmy James
I wonder if Conan would technically be in breach of his deal that gives him either the Tonight Show or a hefty buyout in 2009 if he doesn't return. If so, that could give NBC a hefty amount of ability to pressure one of Jay and Conan to return. They could give Jay the carrot that if he comes back, they'll void Conan's deal and Conan the stick that they'll kill his deal and not give him Tonight if he stays out.
I think the only result of such an action would be to anger both of them.

The networks are nuts to let this strike drag on until next year. They're only going to hasten their own demise.
Old 11-13-07 | 01:13 PM
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The networks are nuts to let this strike drag on until next year. They're only going to hasten their own demise.
No, they aren't. I'm not taking a side, I think both have their pluses and minuses, but there couldn't be a better time of year for this to happen from teh point of view of the studios. December is typically filled with repeats due to the holidays (Tgiving is next week as well!). There seems to be enough new material to carry them through November sweeps.

However, the writers will have to spend xmas out of work and on the picket line, and that might have a demoralizing effect, no matter how you cut it.

And there's no way the networks/studios will EVER suffer a "demise" of any kind. They still control the airways, and being in Hollywood will always be the dream of millions more than can ever achieve it.
Old 11-13-07 | 01:17 PM
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Originally Posted by DVD Josh
No, they aren't. I'm not taking a side, I think both have their pluses and minuses, but there couldn't be a better time of year for this to happen from teh point of view of the studios. December is typically filled with repeats due to the holidays (Tgiving is next week as well!). There seems to be enough new material to carry them through November sweeps.

However, the writers will have to spend xmas out of work and on the picket line, and that might have a demoralizing effect, no matter how you cut it.
If they settle in January, you'll be right. If they settle in July or later, it's a totally different story.

And there's no way the networks/studios will EVER suffer a "demise" of any kind. They still control the airways, and being in Hollywood will always be the dream of millions more than can ever achieve it.
More networks are fighting over diminishing audience share- that's just a fact. The big media companies that own them are diversified and will be fine, but the networks could be in for a lot of pain.
Old 11-13-07 | 01:26 PM
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Originally Posted by Tracer Bullet
If they settle in January, you'll be right. If they settle in July or later, it's a totally different story.
Yeah, but people will come back. TV is still the most common recreational activity, by far.

Originally Posted by Tracer Bullet
More networks are fighting over diminishing audience share- that's just a fact. The big media companies that own them are diversified and will be fine, but the networks could be in for a lot of pain.
Yeah, but it's a fact that doesn't have any real bearing here, because no one is writing for anyone, cable networks included.

But network TV will always lead the way, because it's free, unlike cable or sat.
Old 11-13-07 | 01:29 PM
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Yeah, but people will come back. TV is still the most common recreational activity, by far.
After the last writers' strike, 9% didn't come back. That's not inconsequential.
Old 11-13-07 | 01:34 PM
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Originally Posted by Tracer Bullet
After the last writers' strike, 9% didn't come back. That's not inconsequential.
But didn't come back EVER? How soon after the strike ended did that number improve? I don't know. If I had to guess, I'd say within the first six months, at most a year.
Old 11-13-07 | 01:39 PM
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But didn't come back EVER? How soon after the strike ended did that number improve? I don't know. If I had to guess, I'd say within the first six months, at most a year.
Pretty much, yeah, if this chart is accurate (or every single one of that 9% started watching CBS exclusively):

Old 11-13-07 | 01:40 PM
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I don't have numbers to back it up, but in many articles I've read about the strike it has been said that audience numbers have not recovered and never reached the pre-1988 strike levels.
Old 11-13-07 | 01:44 PM
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Originally Posted by Tracer Bullet
Pretty much, yeah, if this chart is accurate:
I guess that's what I'd be thinking if I were the studios, that people will come back regardless. I haven't seen alot of sympathy from the public towards the writers either, which is certainly fueling some of this as well.

The question is at what point does the savings on new media royalties cut into lost advertising profits? That's the tip of scale business wise.
Old 11-13-07 | 01:46 PM
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Originally Posted by Lunatikk
I don't have numbers to back it up, but in many articles I've read about the strike it has been said that audience numbers have not recovered and never reached the pre-1988 strike levels.
That isn't necessarily due to the strike, though. The role of cable and Internet is pretty difficult to account for. Even if the strike did send viewers to cable and they did later discover Internet, it's hard to say whether something is going to come along this time to provide for the same sort of distraction.
Old 11-13-07 | 01:47 PM
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I guess that's what I'd be thinking if I were the studios, that people will come back regardless. I haven't seen alot of sympathy from the public towards the writers either, which is certainly fueling some of this as well.
Well, the last strike proved that not to be the case. Where did they go? I don't know, but they didn't return to network television.
Old 11-13-07 | 01:49 PM
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Originally Posted by Lunatikk
I don't have numbers to back it up, but in many articles I've read about the strike it has been said that audience numbers have not recovered and never reached the pre-1988 strike levels.
FOX started around that time, which definitely cut into the big threes numbers.
Old 11-13-07 | 01:49 PM
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The chart above makes it pretty clear that there was a decline in households well before the last strike happened.


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