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Old 01-25-08 | 09:01 AM
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Personally, I'd rather most shows just start up again next season on a fresh start. Most of the shows I'm watching ended on a decent mid-season cliffhanger that I'm contented to sit on until next fall. Seriously, everyone should simply consider the extra time a bonus to create geniunely good programming instead of some of the tripe we had the season (hello, Bionic Woman?). I'm still hoping this delay will prevent new pilots for the networks to option to series so that Journeyman will have to return.
Kevin Fall's production deal with NBC was canceled, so Journeyman is done forever.
Old 01-25-08 | 10:56 AM
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Personally, I'd rather most shows just start up again next season on a fresh start. Most of the shows I'm watching ended on a decent mid-season cliffhanger that I'm contented to sit on until next fall.
Yeah, I agree with this. Especially shows like Heroes, which would probably be worse off if they had to throw together a mini arc at the last minute to complete a season that was already sort of wrapped up in December. I would just as soon wait for many of these shows until the fall rather than see then throw together a handful of episodes only to take yet another break for summer. I wouldn't mind seeing a few more episodes of The Office or 30 Rock, though, and would love to see Scrubs complete its final season properly. And I would gladly take any Pushing Daisies and House I can get.
Old 01-25-08 | 11:14 AM
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Question -- can writers write scripts during the strike, but personally hold on to them until it is over? It would make sense for them to have a stockpile ready to turn in for production ASAP. Or do WGA rules forbid ANY writing whatsoever?
Old 01-25-08 | 11:18 AM
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Originally Posted by Double_Oh_7
Question -- can writers write scripts during the strike, but personally hold on to them until it is over?
The WGA mandate is "pencils down". Members are not supposed to be writing.
Old 01-25-08 | 11:19 AM
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Originally Posted by Double_Oh_7
Question -- can writers write scripts during the strike, but personally hold on to them until it is over? It would make sense for them to have a stockpile ready to turn in for production ASAP. Or do WGA rules forbid ANY writing whatsoever?
I'm pretty sure that guild rules prevent any writing for projects that you are currently employed on, even if you don't turn it in to the studios. It also would weaken your bargaining position if the studios knew that whenever the strike is settled they'll have a flood of new material to produce.
Old 01-25-08 | 11:29 AM
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The WGA mandate is "pencils down". Members are not supposed to be writing.
Even so, you can bet your ass they are. When the light turns green, these guys are going to be scrambling.
Old 01-25-08 | 12:51 PM
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I find it hard to believe that in the comfort of there own home they are not writing.

Its in there blood. Most writers NEED to write.
Old 01-25-08 | 01:17 PM
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For a procedural drama like House or CSI, I don't see creating 5-6 more episodes to finish the season a big deal since the episodes are stand alone.

I go agree that serial shows like Heroes, Ugly Betty and DesperateHousewives should just wait until Fall to start up again.
Old 01-25-08 | 01:28 PM
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Originally Posted by Matthew Ackerly
I find it hard to believe that in the comfort of there own home they are not writing.

Its in there blood. Most writers NEED to write.
There is no doubt in my mind that Bill Lawrence isn't more than halfway through penning the final Scrubs episodes!
Old 01-25-08 | 02:08 PM
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Well, topical writers, like those for Daily Show, probably aren't doing too much writing, but I know for a fact that many movie writers are writing up a storm, and that there will be a glut of scripts on the market the second the strike is over.
Old 01-28-08 | 01:46 PM
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Some positive news from Deadline Hollywood Daily:

URGENT! Talks Status Report: Optimism

I'm told the informal writer-mogul meetings are going "in a positive direction" enough so that it's beginning to look possible for the Academy Awards to proceed normally. Friday's was an especially productive session, I've learned. "I feel optimistic. In my opinion, today was productive and collaborative and respectful. I thought it was a very good day," an insider told me. The CEOs' pointman Peter Chernin is leaving tonight to go out of town ("This is not his day job," one source reminded...) but the talks will continue in his absence. I can tell you that since Tuesday the News Corp/Fox No. 2 has been telling insiders that the moguls have decided to let the WGA leadership (yes, even the guy they all hate -- Dave Young, who was in today's session) "declare a face-saving victory" in order to get a deal done. Yesterday Chernin, ensconced in the Fox commissary surrounded by some of his execs -- including Tom Rothman, Peter Liguori, and Hutch Parker -- was reassuring people, "Don't worry. It's done." My info is that it's far from done yet, but things are looking up to the point that one of my sources thinks this could get settled in time to hold a real Oscars. Sure, we've all been here before and seen talks break down after a few optimistic days. But now, according to my insiders, the moguls finally want a deal as much as the writers. Will the deal be good enough?
http://www.deadlinehollywooddaily.co...ogress-report/

Hopefully they can finally reach a deal.
Old 01-28-08 | 01:50 PM
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The thought that the writers would do anything to disrupt the Academy Awards, well, they should lose their WGA card.

The Oscars are an institution that is bigger than any writer, director or studio. If it wasn't for The Oscars, their wouldn't be so much hype for who's the best, etc.

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Old 01-28-08 | 02:41 PM
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I think February 1-8 is the drop dead dates to keep the remainder of the season alive.

If they do not settle in Early - Mid February, I think the networks will call off salvaging 5-6 eps for this season and focus on the summer and the fall.

So I think there is a real chance to settle this thing in the next two weeks...

or it will be a long spring....
Old 01-28-08 | 06:51 PM
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Originally Posted by mrpayroll
The thought that the writers would do anything to disrupt the Academy Awards, well, they should lose their WGA card.

The Oscars are an institution that is bigger than any writer, director or studio. If it wasn't for The Oscars, their wouldn't be so much hype for who's the best, etc.

Chris
Its called a bargaining chip...a very large bargaining chip - to give it up just because would be a dumb business move.

I do agree that the Oscars are larger than any individual, but together, the writers can show their strength to the industry (producers/studios) that they aren't to be fucked with if they want to have their awards show.

So, if the writers can effectively shutdown this "institution"....who's bigger?
Old 01-28-08 | 06:56 PM
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I want more Lost. Do it.
Old 01-28-08 | 07:32 PM
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So, if the writers can effectively shutdown this "institution"....who's bigger?
Writers, generally speaking, tend to overestimate their worth and importance to society.
Old 01-28-08 | 08:57 PM
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I believe we'll see a settlement somewhere between February 15 to February 21, 2008. There are a number of reasons why there will be a settlement:

1) It sets the precent for a possible early settlement with SAG (SAG does NOT want to end up getting just as bad rap as the WGA).
2) The LAST thing everyone wants is the Academy Awards ceremonies emasculated to nothing more than a news conference--that would be immensely bad public relations for all involved.
3) A settlement by the dates I suggested could make it possible the network "up fronts" to be done in March 2008, and the networks could "save face" by starting the 2008-2009 season on November 1, 2008, just after the 2008 MLB World Series ends.
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What's a precent? Just "asking".
Old 01-29-08 | 11:04 AM
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^^^
What's a precent? Just "asking".
He means "precedent", but you knew that already.
Old 01-29-08 | 11:12 AM
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2) The LAST thing everyone wants is the Academy Awards ceremonies emasculated to nothing more than a news conference--that would be immensely bad public relations for all involved.
You folks make me laugh. The "LAST" thing? Several actors were excited about the Golden Globes being minimalized because they could avoid the hubbub and hassle of finding an outfit, bling, etc. I guess no one here knows the real history of the Oscars. You should read this book:

Behind the Oscar: The Secret History of the Academy Awards

The first several awards cermonies will astonish you how wildly out of control the ceremony of today has gotten. The travesty is how grossly self-congratulatory it has become in the past decade.

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Old 01-29-08 | 11:30 AM
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Writers, generally speaking, tend to overestimate their worth and importance to society.
*looks at current TV lineup*

I beg to differ.
Old 01-30-08 | 12:31 AM
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Originally Posted by RayChuang
I believe we'll see a settlement somewhere between February 15 to February 21, 2008. There are a number of reasons why there will be a settlement:


3) A settlement by the dates I suggested could make it possible the network "up fronts" to be done in March 2008, and the networks could "save face" by starting the 2008-2009 season on November 1, 2008, just after the 2008 MLB World Series ends.
Someone already addressed your point number two, so I'll focus on number three. Why would the strike ending after so many months cause the upfronts to happen two months EARLY?... and how would they happen? - very, very, very few pilots have been produced for this year and most of the production teams that had development deals have seen them get scrapped. It's going to take at least a month before we even get an abbreviated pilot season, then count on a month of filming/editing and then at least half a month to a month for the studio to make their decisions on the pilots (assuming they don't scrap the notion altogether as NBC has suggested). The Fall season would also be completely unaffected if the strike ends when you suggested. Writing staffs typically go back to work for the upcoming seasons in June so returning shows would be right on schedule. Essentially I'm not quite sure how ANY of point number three would work with the dates you suspect the strike might end.
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Update from TV Guide:

Looks like we're in the homestretch, kids.

The New York Times is reporting that the major roadblocks between the striking Writers Guild of America and the Alliance of Motion Picture and Television Producers have been eliminated, paving the way for a tentative agreement as early as next week. Yes, you read that right - as early as next week.

The breakthrough reportedly came Friday after two weeks of productive (if informal) talks between the two sides.
Let's hope it's true...
Old 02-02-08 | 06:29 PM
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The Associated Press is reporting this as well.

http://news.yahoo.com/s/ap/20080202/...CqmVhac9Cs0NUE
Old 02-02-08 | 06:40 PM
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Yep, hopefully it is true and some shows can get some extra episodes to air...


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